Is Logos is offering the Classic Commentaries Colossians and Philemon twice?

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 12 2012 7:05 AM

Ronald Quick:

Sure looks that way, doesn't it. The contents of each set is identical but one is reputed to have 25 volumes while the correct ad says 14 volumes.

I wonder how many people bid on both?   Stick out tongue

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William | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 12 2012 7:05 AM

One set is 11 volumes smaller....Are there overlaps in the particular books?

 

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 12 2012 7:23 AM

The items are identical except that one has additional volumes.

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Scott E. Mahle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 12 2012 7:29 AM

William Bingham:

One set is 11 volumes smaller....Are there overlaps in the particular books?

 

One set has 11 volumes of Thessalonians included.

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Fab | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 12 2012 7:45 AM

Yes indeed! I cancelled my bid on the Colossians and Philemon classic commentaries.

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BillS | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 12 2012 9:05 AM

How many bid on both? Guilty! Lol... But now I can rationalize it that even if only one collection makes it over the top, I'm in. More seriously, this is an issue Logos.needs.to fix. Yes?

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 12 2012 10:21 AM

Scott E. Mahle:
 
William Bingham:
 One set is 11 volumes smaller....Are there overlaps in the particular books?  
 One set has 11 volumes of Thessalonians included.  

When this thread started both sets were missing the Thessalonians volumes.  I would hope Logos will delete the smaller set. soon.

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 12 2012 10:44 AM

Ronald Quick:

The first set was artificially (and mistakenly) grouped to get the volume count to a certain size. Colossians and Philemon belong together, but Thessalonians doesn't. I suggested that we split them in two: Colossians and Philemon as one collection (which is up) and Thessalonians as another (which will be up soon). The first collection hasn't been retired yet, but probably should. At the very least, we'll put clear instructions on all three pages indicating that the largest collection is the sum of the smaller two.

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Evan Boardman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 12 2012 11:24 AM

Boo  Phil!!! (looking for a boot icon)

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 12 2012 12:52 PM

Evan Boardman:

Boo  Phil!!! (looking for a boot icon)

I take it you're not pleased. I'm open to your suggestions. (You can keep your boos and your boots to yourself! Smile)

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BillS | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 12 2012 12:56 PM

Phil Gons:
The first set was artificially (and mistakenly) grouped to get the volume count to a certain size. Colossians and Philemon belong together, but Thessalonians doesn't. I suggested that we split them in two: Colossians and Philemon as one collection (which is up) and Thessalonians as another (which will be up soon). The first collection hasn't been retired yet, but probably should. At the very least, we'll put clear instructions on all three pages indicating that the largest collection is the sum of the smaller two.

Thanks so much for listening! If you leave one or more collections in CP with overlapping resources, at least one of us will buy it & be unhappy... We can all see it coming. Any clear, groupings with non-overlapping resources would be fine with me.

Thanks again for listening!

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Evan Boardman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 12 2012 1:00 PM

Phil Gons:
I take it you're not pleased.

If you separate them, what will most likely happen will it will mean more money out of pockets.Sad

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 12 2012 1:40 PM

Evan Boardman:

Phil Gons:
I take it you're not pleased.

If you separate them, what will most likely happen will it will mean more money out of pockets.Sad

Not necessarily. It could mean less. You should be able to get more people to jump on board a smaller collection since it's more targeted (e.g., not everyone who wants Colossians commentaries also wants Thessalonians commentaries) and will have a lower price tag. Of course, people who want both can still bid on both.

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Ted Hans | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 12 2012 2:37 PM

Phil, I was going to write to you with the suggestion of keeping the Colossians and Thessalonians collection together and deleting the smaller Colossians 14 volume. That way we get three books of the New Testament quicker but it seems that others may prefer a different option. 

Please don't retire the Colossian/Thessalonian optionSmile

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 18 2012 11:41 AM

Ted Hans:

Phil, I was going to write to you with the suggestion of keeping the Colossians and Thessalonians collection together and deleting the smaller Colossians 14 volume. That way we get three books of the New Testament quicker but it seems that others may prefer a different option. 

Please don't retire the Colossian/Thessalonian optionSmile

I'm with Ted here.  Now having the option to buy Colossians/Philemon and Thessalonians separately or Colossians/Philemon/Thessalonians together would negatively test the motivating principle behind Community Pricing... consensus.

As of right now the peaks of the two separated collections totals to a higher price than the combined collection.  I'll second the suggestion to nix the separate Colossians/Philemon and Thessalonians collections and stick to the original combined Colossians/Philemon/Thessalonians.

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Ronald Quick | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 18 2012 5:53 PM

As long as all three are up on the CP page I suggest keeping them there.  I plan on getting all the Classic Commentaries in the series so it makes more sense for me to bid on the collection that includes all three.  However, if someone is only interested in Thessalonians then they can just purchase that one individually. 

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 19 2012 5:54 AM

Phil Gons:
I take it you're not pleased. I'm open to your suggestions. (You can keep your boos and your boots to yourself! Smile)

No  boots, no  "boos."           Just an "ataboy!"   

As Bill asked, How many of us placed bids on both? Embarrassed 

Now I do have a suggestion about that Revelation collection: If the top end of the graph were lowered down to , say $80, I bet we would gain a lot of momentum.  It would be an absolute shame for everyone to get all the Classic Commentaries and Studies Collections on the whole Bible and miss out on the Revelation set, just because $160 was WAY OUT OF LINE.   Wink

Oh, thanks Phil. I appreciate all you do for us. 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 19 2012 6:50 AM

Super Tramp:

As Bill asked, How many of us placed bids on both? Embarrassed 

Yes, until something reaches closure.

Super Tramp:
Now I do have a suggestion about that Revelation collection: If the top end of the graph were lowered down to , say $80, I bet we would gain a lot of momentum.  It would be an absolute shame for everyone to get all the Classic Commentaries and Studies Collections on the whole Bible and miss out on the Revelation set

Wonder about offering two subsets of Revelation classic commentaries for bidding ? (e.g. published before or after 1870 so the subsets have 12 and 15 volumes)

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 19 2012 6:51 AM

Ronald Quick:
As long as all three are up on the CP page I suggest keeping them there

That would mess up the CP pricing system.

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