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Brian W. Davidson | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Jul 29 2009 1:10 AM

What is the CATSS morphological database that comes with the SESB LXX? Is this just the Logos morphology?

When I do a morphological search in SESB LXX I do not see any other morphoogy option other than Logos.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 29 2009 7:36 AM

BrianWayneDavidson:

What is the CATSS morphological database that comes with the SESB LXX? Is this just the Logos morphology?

When I do a morphological search in SESB LXX I do not see any other morphoogy option other than Logos.

http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/rak//catss.html

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 29 2009 7:51 AM

BrianWayneDavidson:
What is the CATSS morphological database that comes with the SESB LXX? Is this just the Logos morphology?

Logos Morphology  is unique to the Logos editions of NA27/UBS4 and is also applied to the various Lexham GNT's. But this same name also encapsulates the morphological databases of other Greek texts e.g. OpenText and CATSS. Therefore you can run the same morphological search query on all these resources using Greek Morphological Bible Search, though comparisons would still depend on the peculiarities of the databases e.g. particles in one are conjunctions in another.

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Rick Brannan (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 29 2009 9:00 AM

The SESB LXX has the latest version of the CATSS morphology, corrected and revised by Bernard Taylor. It is not the version that you can find online, it is several updates and revisions removed from that.

Rather than implement yet another morph scheme for Greek, the Logos morphological scheme is used to represent the CATSS morph in the SESB LXX. So the option of the Logos morphology as scheme is correct.

Hope that helps,

Rick Brannan
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Brian W. Davidson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 29 2009 5:20 PM

Thanks Rick!

That's exactly what I needed to know.

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Mark Hoffman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 30 2009 7:42 PM

One of the major problems of the LXX morphological text in Logos was the coding errors.

Two that I had noted were the incorrect coding of over 2000 infinitives as indicatives (There should be about 7351 total in all books of the LXX)

and

the incorrect rendering of ἐπ̓ instead of ἐπʼ    (If you are having trouble viewing this Unicode text, the difference is that the LXX database has the apostrophe OVER the pi rather than AFTER it as it should have to indicate the abbreviated form. One such error was in Deut 8.3.) The LXX database in Logos had 1429 instances of this misspelled form.

SO, if anyone has the SESB LXX, could they confirm that these errors have been fixed? Thanks.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 30 2009 8:04 PM

Mark Hoffman:

the incorrect rendering of ἐπ̓ instead of ἐπʼ    (If you are having trouble viewing this Unicode text, the difference is that the LXX database has the apostrophe OVER the pi rather than AFTER it as it should have to indicate the abbreviated form. One such error was in Deut 8.3.) The LXX database in Logos had 1429 instances of this misspelled form.

It would seem that this particular error is due to the use of the smooth breathing following the PI rather than the apostrophe (If you use the Logos Greek Keyboard, this would be using the square bracket key rather than the single quote key).  It shouldn't be too difficult to do a search and replace since the smooth breathing would not appear with a consonant.

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