If you were stranded on a desert island what would you do about this??

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Kendall Sholtess | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Jan 16 2012 12:21 AM

Howdy Logos community!

Imagine that you are stranded on a lonely desert island with just your trusty laptop and Scholar's Silver installed.

An angel of God comes and offers you three coconuts, an everlasting battery, and a choice of one out of two resources to add to your collection:

BDAG  or

Steve Runge's Discourse Greek New Testament

 

  Which would you choose?

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Ken McGuire | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 16 2012 6:13 AM

I would pick the Bauer.  It is a time tested gold mine for New Testament Greek.

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 16 2012 6:24 AM

the battery

... I can't read that fast

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Kendall Sholtess | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 16 2012 6:27 AM

I wonder if understanding words in context is not better than looking them up in a lexicon. That is why I am having a mental conflict about it. Obviously, I like the BDAG. I have an older dead tree copy right here by my desk. It's just that I can't decide which would help me understand the NT better at this time. Is the word study method more essential or the discourse literary method?

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Graham Owen | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 16 2012 6:56 AM

Kendall Sholtess:

Imagine that you are stranded on a lonely desert island with just your trusty laptop and Scholar's Silver installed.

An angel of God comes and offers you three coconuts, an everlasting battery, and a choice of one out of two resources to add to your collection:

BDAG  or

Steve Runge's Discourse Greek New Testament

Think I'd actually prefer a good commentary on Revelation so I had something to look forward to!

 

  Which would you choose?

 

God Bless

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Paul Chatfield | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 16 2012 8:23 AM

 

Ha ha Graham - I like your suggestion - would it be a postmillennial version to make you cheery or a pretrib premill version so that you'd miss the tribulation?

Hmm, sorry, Kendall.  This is meant to be a discussion on which of the 2 books is better.  I can't help you with that.

 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 16 2012 8:42 AM

Kendall Sholtess:
Obviously, I like the BDAG. I have an older dead tree copy right here by my desk. It's just that I can't decide which would help me understand the NT better at this time. Is the word study method more essential or the discourse literary method?

Scholar's Platinum includes BDAG plus => Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research 

Wiki Logos Resource Reviews has => Lexham Discourse Greek New Testament with links to some Logos.com product pages.

Thankful for Logos visual filter highlighting, which can show range of verb usage in a passage.

By the way, pre-publication => Lexham Discourse Hebrew Bible Bundle (6 vols.) is still gathering interest; needs more pre-orders for Logos production.

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Nina Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 16 2012 8:44 AM

I would choose the battery then eat the coconuts!!  Paradise

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 16 2012 8:47 AM

Kendall Sholtess:
An angel of God comes and offers you three coconuts,

This one is easy.  I would take the everlasting battery and appeal to the Angel for an upgrade to Portfolio Edition.

Here is why:

If God cared enough to send a special messenger to little ol' me in this unlikely theophany, it shows me God really wants me to know Him better. If that is the case, I really would not need BDAG or Steve Runge's contributions. (No offense Dr. Steve Wink)

I would worry just a little that the battery was "everlasting."  Is there something the Angel is not telling me?

 

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 16 2012 8:48 AM

BDAG for sure.  I understand that the battery and Scholar's Silver are included.  The choice is only for the third item:  BDAG or Runge's DGNT.

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Philana Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 16 2012 8:50 AM

Both are good...I would start with BDAG and then add the discourse. Would a payment plan make getting both an option, it's something you might want to consider.

Blessings,

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Graham Owen | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 16 2012 11:09 AM

Paul Chatfield:
would it be a postmillennial version to make you cheery or a pretrib premill version so that you'd miss the tribulation?

I'm pre millennium because I don't like pain!

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Rev Chris | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 16 2012 1:27 PM

What an interesting question!  Of the two, I'd have to go with the Lexham, simply because that's what I use more of in my library.  But, there's other resources I'd much prefer to take - probably either the Interpretation Commentary Series or the AYBD.

 

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 16 2012 2:45 PM

Sorry folks, I'm going with the coconut. I can eat one, plant the other, (get more coconuts) how are you going to use Logos if you are too hungry to read the laptop. After I have eaten, I will pray, meditate on the beauty of nature, Psalm 19, and start writing memory verses and what they mean in the sand, on the trees, and other place that I can to pass the time.

Did I mention, writing a book of my experience on the leaves of my coconut trees?

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 16 2012 2:47 PM

And when I finally get rescued, because I have had so much time to write and memorize my works, I will put it on prepub for a small fee. Hey the bills have to be paid. Big Smile

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 16 2012 3:32 PM

Graham Owen:

I'm pre millennium because I don't like pain!

Yes

Just my luck.  I am Pre-mil, too.  But I am Historic Premil, like George Ladd.  I get to be Pre-mil, but have to keep the pain.  Tongue Tied

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Kendall Sholtess | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 16 2012 3:56 PM

  Guys,

The coconuts and battery are included, it's only the two resources that you need to choose from.

Thanks for the suggestions so far. I think my conundrum is choosing between big details (sentences, paragraphs, etc.)  and small details (individual words). I only have about $150 to spend, and I just already upgraded to Silver. I'm significantly poorer that some folks, so it may be years before I reach Portfolio.

 

 

 

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Kendall Sholtess | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 16 2012 4:10 PM

 

  Keep Smiling,

Wonderful graphics! I wish I could spend the money for the upgrade and Hebrew bundle. I'll only be spending around $150 though. So does your preference lie with big picture (sentence/paragraph) or word studies?

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Josh | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 16 2012 4:17 PM

Kendall Sholtess:

 

  Keep Smiling,

Wonderful graphics! I wish I could spend the money for the upgrade and Hebrew bundle. I'll only be spending around $150 though. So does your preference lie with big picture (sentence/paragraph) or word studies?

 

Kendall, a very wise person once told me never to buy a resource that is in a base package you might one day upgrade to.

 

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Jacob Hantla | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 16 2012 4:57 PM

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