Logos Accounts for Husband/Wife

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Jim Ward, Jr. | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Mar 4 2012 9:50 PM

I have been using Logos products since 1995. First on my Windows PC, then adding my Apple iPad2 and Android smartphone. Logos took me through 4 years of seminary and continues to provide my primary resource for biblical studies. Over the years, I have accumulated an enormous Logos library. I don't want to calculate how many tens of thousands of dollars I have spent.

I recently bought my wife an Apple iPad2. If I create a separate Logos account, she does not have access to my enourmous library. If I let her use my Logos account, she has access to my library, but I see two problems: (1) I may violate the Logos license (unsure about that); (2) Her notes and setting conflict with my notes and settings.

I suspect that the official answer is that I need to go with separate accounts. That means that I must pay double for all the resources that we want to share. I would appreciate an official answer from Logos, or at least some ideas from others who have faced the same situation. As the father of four children who now study the Bible a lot on their own, I suspect that I will soon face a similar question for my dependent children. I find that nearly all software licenses do not consider family situations.

I appreciate any advice or guidance. I want to abide by all license agreements, but I also want to be a good steward of my resources.

Thanks,

Jim Ward, Jr.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 4 2012 9:59 PM

Jim,

You'll want to read the discussion here, esp. Bob Pritchett's statement: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/341.aspx?PageIndex=2

Basically you can have pretty much as many installations of Logos under one Logos user account as you need. There is no way to create a second Logos user account with these same resources.

One way to help yourself is to adhere strictly to a naming scheme for notes , clippings, etc. to segregate yours from hers. With the new way highlighting is stored, you can each have separate highlighter palettes and with care about where those highlights are stored, can separate them, then by using the visual filter choices on the resource tool bar select only your highlights to be displayed (they will be in the note file or note files you decided to direct your highlights to).

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DominicM | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 4 2012 10:08 PM

RE: Licence, AFAIK there is no issue with letting her use your licence copy, this has been raised before and Bob has said he is OK with it - However:

RE: Notes, there is no way to seperate your notes from hers at present - there is no selective syncing of notes for mobile devices - , and whilst I hope it happens in the future,  wont hold my breath..

The only way around this would be to buy her her own licence.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 5 2012 12:59 AM

Jim Ward, Jr. ThM, MBA:
I have been using Logos products since 1995. First on my Windows PC, then adding my Apple iPad2 and Android smartphone. Logos took me through 4 years of seminary and continues to provide my primary resource for biblical studies. Over the years, I have accumulated an enormous Logos library. I don't want to calculate how many tens of thousands of dollars I have spent.

Welcome Big Smile plus understand lack of desire to calculate library cost.

Jim Ward, Jr. ThM, MBA:
(2) Her notes and setting conflict with my notes and settings.

If share a Logos account, then all settings are shared.  Some couples share well while other couples (especially when both have ministerial staffs) benefit from separate libraries.

Jim Ward, Jr. ThM, MBA:
As the father of four children who now study the Bible a lot on their own, I suspect that I will soon face a similar question for my dependent children.

Suspect while devices are in your control since your children are living with you that sharing one Logos account is a possibility.  A Logos 4 configuration option is setting Use Internet to No so stuff does not sync.  Having a Logos license for each child that can go with them may be attractive; could discuss academic pricing with Logos, especially if resource(s) are required for a class.

Another planning item is Logos library inheritance (transfer), which could be specified in your will.

Caveat: for my wife and I, who currently use Logos 4 at the same time frequently, am Thankful we have separate Logos licenses (with different library settings).  We both have Scholar's Platinum plus additional purchases (albeit my library has more commentaries and other resources than hers).

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 5 2012 3:02 AM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
especially when both have ministerial staffs)

Please note that from Bob's post referenced above this would violate the spirit of the EULA.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 5 2012 3:57 AM

Jim Ward, Jr. ThM, MBA:
I want to abide by all license agreements, but I also want to be a good steward of my resources.

To summarize some of the things said:

  1. Your license agreement allows for "one user."
  2. Logos allows for "one user" to include family members living at home (who are not in vocational ministry)
  3. You can install Logos on as many computers as that "one user" uses (i.e. Home, Work, Home Office, Laptop, etc.)
  4. The disadvantage of this is that all settings / notes, etc. are shared among users, which can present problems
  5. The mobile device does not currently have a way to turn off note files, therefore all note files will always be shown.

 

Jim Ward, Jr. ThM, MBA:
I appreciate any advice or guidance.

With these limitations, here is one solution:

  1. Install Logos on a computer (or computer's user account) for your wife.
  2. Create Note files and/or highlighters just for her
  3. You can then turn these on & off at will on your computers (but not your mobile devices)

Some have suggested creating an installation with "use internet off" to keep notes & highlights from syncing. This could work, but I think it would be a disaster waiting to happen if you are not VERY careful. IMO it is better to accept that notes / highlights do sync and create strategies to work around it.

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David Carter | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 5 2012 4:09 AM

Jack Caviness:

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
especially when both have ministerial staffs)

Please note that from Bob's post referenced above this would violate the spirit of the EULA.

Which is probably why he said "benefit from separate libraries." In other words separate licenses Yes

 

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 5 2012 5:29 AM

David Carter:

Jack Caviness:

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
especially when both have ministerial staffs)

Please note that from Bob's post referenced above this would violate the spirit of the EULA.

Which is probably why he said "benefit from separate libraries." In other words separate licenses Yes

Probably, but even more important, it is also a violation.

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Wayne | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 5 2012 6:44 AM

Logos Bible Software is more than just software. We get the software for "free", but we are buying a library. The account is necessary to get access to the library not to the software. You can even get the Logos app for free to use with a few free books.

In our case my wife and I can choose to divide our one salary or put it all in one name. At the moment it all goes in my name as it appears that it will give us advantage for retirement.  We work and share the same ministry. We also have shared the same library for all of our 24 years of marriage. Logos only came into our lives six years ago. It our context we look like "one".

The rules for content are not the same as the rules for software. You are allowed to share your books on 5-6 devices in one Kindle account. Kindle does allow some limited sharing.

You can download a movie and it can be seen by multiple families at a party in a home on a large screen TV. However, if you show that movie on a large screen TV in a public place such a student lounge of a college it would be a violation. Context is part of what constitutes a violation of use.

I have bought separate licenses for two of my kids. They have their own separate lives and we bought their libraries with an academic discount when both were in college.

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Jim Ward, Jr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 5 2012 7:45 AM

Thanks everyone for the very helpful responses. I did several searches on the Logos web site and these forums before posting, but somehow missed the topic. Bob Pritchett's posting from 2009 provides a clear intent. As a long-time Microsoft manager, I have certainly had plenty of intellectual property licensing dicussions, especially when negotiating contracts with media and publishing customers. I like Bob's approach of simply sharing the intent.

I also appreicate the various comments regarding the trade-offs of shared vs. separate licenses. 

Thanks 

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