Hi.
Accoding to "What is Faithlife?" it is an online community with an implied emphasis on connecting church groups and school classes, as well as addressing commong security concerns some people have about other social networks.
Besides this, have you worked out where you want to go with the project, and more importantly how it is going to be different from facebook? What will it accomplice that a facebook app will not? Because lets face it, At this point Faithlife sure looks and feels like a stripped down version ( with the addition of the Amen button :-).
Sakarias Ingolfsson:At this point Faithlife sure looks and feels like a stripped down version ( with the addition of the Amen button :-).
Faithlife.com also has Praying button.
On an iPad, searching for "logos bible software" finds 3 apps so am aware Faithlife will be more than a web site.
Personally not know all that is planned; looking forward to learning more.
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It's a series of tools that will all mesh together to allow lots of collaboration. Wait for the announcement. Once everything is up and running, I think you will see it's a completely different beast all together.
I understand your question; at the moment it doesn't look like much.
We have to get the fundamentals in place, and then we can start deploying the church and Bible-specific features. I think once we have them up you'll see some real and very valuable differences from other social networking solutions.
The most fundamental differences, though, are our focus on "communities" rather than "friends", and the private/public emphasis of the two sites.
I hope you'll see increasing value and distinction in the coming weeks.
(We have hundreds of pages of specifications outlining a very mature, very useful site... it just takes time to get it all coded! But we do have a plan...)
Bob Pritchett: I understand your question; at the moment it doesn't look like much. We have to get the fundamentals in place, and then we can start deploying the church and Bible-specific features. I think once we have them up you'll see some real and very valuable differences from other social networking solutions. The most fundamental differences, though, are our focus on "communities" rather than "friends", and the private/public emphasis of the two sites. I hope you'll see increasing value and distinction in the coming weeks. (We have hundreds of pages of specifications outlining a very mature, very useful site... it just takes time to get it all coded! But we do have a plan...)
Where is that like button when you need it. :)
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Eagerly anticipating the transformation of Faithbook into Faithlife....
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It will be interesting to follow the development. On one hand it could look like you were going in the direction of something like fb, while on the other hand "´communities´ rather than ´friends´" could mean that you were headed to something like WebCT. I guess I am stubborn to look for some recognition, where there perhaps is none. It will be exciting to see.
Btw. A few years ago I had a job as a programmer myself, so I understand well that coding takes time and cannot be rushed (or at least should not). In fact one of my strongest memories from this time is when my boss told me how to calculate time: Do a thorough estimation of how much time you need, then mulitiply by π and finally add another 20 per cent. Coding takes time.
I join the ranks of the intrigued.
I am curious though - how does faithlife plan to distinguish itself from other similar services? For example, if this will be a subscription service, what will draw users from extremely feature-rich offerings like thecity? If it is to be free, how will this differentiate from established and growing options like tableproject?
I appreciate the distinction between faithlife and FaceBook, but these are distinctions that have also been made by others seeking to serve churches. What is the niche that Logos is aiming for that will provide differentiation?
Bottom line, is this product seeking to fill a need that appears to be unaddressed, or is Logos (a la Apple) trying to provide an ecosystem of products such that all of a Christian's digital desires can be met under one large Logos umbrella?
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Chris Martin:how does faithlife plan to distinguish itself from other similar services?
That is yet to be seen, and much has not been revealed.
Chris Martin:is Logos (a la Apple) trying to provide an ecosystem of products such that all of a Christian's digital desires can be met under one large Logos umbrella?
In a way, I think so.
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alabama24: Chris Martin:is Logos (a la Apple) trying to provide an ecosystem of products such that all of a Christian's digital desires can be met under one large Logos umbrella? In a way, I think so.
I'm comfortable with that.
I believe Chris expressed better than I what I was thinking
Bob Pritchett:(We have hundreds of pages of specifications outlining a very mature, very useful site... it just takes time to get it all coded! But we do have a plan...)
Hmmm, it reminds me of the Lord High Executioner in the Mikado who has "a little list" of those to be executed.
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Chris Martin:...or is Logos (a la Apple) trying to provide an ecosystem of products such that all of a Christian's digital desires can be met under one large Logos umbrella?
Except, of course, for a robust comprehensive note system
Where whims and fancies sit in the seat of judgment, a man’s opinion is only so much wind, therefore take no more notice of it than of the wind whistling through a keyhole. ~ CHS
Paul Golder:Except, of course, for a robust comprehensive note system
Lynden Williams: alabama24: Chris Martin:is Logos (a la Apple) trying to provide an ecosystem of products such that all of a Christian's digital desires can be met under one large Logos umbrella? In a way, I think so. I'm comfortable with that.
I am not. In business, there is a term "diWORSEfication" - becoming a jack of all trades, but a master of none. Every successful business is differentiated from its less successful competitors by extremely well-executed details. LOGOS fails in this department unfortunately:
Logos also recently ventured into translating...
I am concerned about lack of focus and spreading (limited) resources too far to provide a decent user experience on EVERYTHING. But again, "the engine is free" - you get what you pay for!
toughski: I am not. In business, there is a term "diWORSEfication" - becoming a jack of all trades, but a master of none. Every successful business is differentiated from its less successful competitors by extremely well-executed details. LOGOS fails in this department unfortunately: it's awesome search capabilities are not so hot with user-created content notes is a mess Vyrso reference tagging is sub-par in many books, so many times does not provide added value when compared to (much cheaper) Kindle titles. Proclaim has a ton of issues to be worked out iPad and Android apps are lacking features and are not as polished compared to competition etc... Logos also recently ventured into translating... I am concerned about lack of focus and spreading (limited) resources too far to provide a decent user experience on EVERYTHING. But again, "the engine is free" - you get what you pay for!
There is a saying that you do not want to by the first version (1.0, 2.0, 3.0, ...) of a software because it has many bugs. I have noticed that Logos starts the sell their product when it should still be classified as an Alpha product (IMHO). Because they rush their development cycle (again IMHO), their products are not that polished.
tom collinge:I have noticed that Logos starts the sell their product when it should still be classified as an Alpha product (IMHO).
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tom collinge:I have noticed that Logos starts the sell their product when it should still be classified as an Alpha product (IMHO). Because they rush their development cycle (again IMHO), their products are not that polished.
And yet you read a lot of posts in these forums about how slow they are to develop. It took over a year to get notes and highlighting on the iOS mobile Logos app and Android still doesn't have it.
For whatever reason they have chosen to develop all of their tools in a parallel way and instead of finishing one thing and making at least that group happy, they are working on all of the tools and making no one happy. If what I was told is true I am awaiting a day when suddenly all of this stuff starts to work at about the same time.
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Kevin A. Purcell: If what I was told is true I am awaiting a day when suddenly all of this stuff starts to work at about the same time.
If what I was told is true I am awaiting a day when suddenly all of this stuff starts to work at about the same time.
I definitely get the feeling that Logos is reinventing itself in many ways. The core heart of Logos seems to be consistent, but the strategy for accomplishing that core mission seems to be dramatically evolving. I think they are surfing the right waves (social integration, cross-platform synchronization and parity, modern web technologies and standards, inter-product interaction, modern UIs and graphical overhauls, etc.), but this is a massive undertaking. In the long run, I think this approach will pay back significant dividends, but in the short term there will be some frustrations as mature products are revamped and new products are initiated.
I share your frustations about certain features that would be particularly helpful to me (notes and highlighting for android, pretty please!), but I am also very curious to see where things go. As more code is standardized, shared and used in a modular fashion, I think development will proceed in a logarithmic, not linear fashion. By this I mean that the delay between getting feature 1 & 2 will likely be a lot longer than the delay between features 3 & 4. In the meantime, we will get to enjoy the show of watching developers tap dance on the quicksand of cutting edge technologies. :)