How Good are NT Wright's for Everyone's Series?

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Kenneth Neighoff | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 6 2012 7:18 PM

I enjoy the modern perspective that he brings to each passage. It gives me food for thought as I approach the Scriptural text.

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Norman Low | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 7 2012 8:52 AM

I was just curious about how this set would compare with the Bible Speaks Today or the IVP NT Commentary series. The price is great, but would there be a benefit to add this set?

 

 

 

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 7 2012 10:09 AM

Norman Low:

I was just curious about how this set would compare with the Bible Speaks Today or the IVP NT Commentary series. The price is great, but would there be a benefit to add this set? 

 

They are different, Wright's are much more devotional. To give you a comparison, I opened up the Luke volumes to the Genealogy of Jesus:

 

 

Note that Wright

  • is the largest (which surprised me, but then again it seems he allots the same amount of space to each pericope, meaning the Nativity is trated in the same size and focused on one relevant point, not like a spot, not brightly lit out into all areas and niches of the text)
  • follows always the same structure
    • he gives his own translation
    • introduces with a link of the text to the modern reader, here the Maori genealogies 
    • exposition (it reads often more like spoken than written language, as if he was giving a radio message on the pericope)
    • zoning in on a point of application or significance
  • will be more consistent than BST (half of it is one author) or IVPNTC

IVPNTC here comes accross more like a technical commentary than an expository one (but this may vary within the series). Now that I bought Wright, I wouldn't want to miss any of the three (unfortunately, as you may recognize from the screenshot, the IVP is not in Logos...)

 

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Giovanni Baggio | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 7 2012 6:08 PM

Kenneth Neighoff:

I enjoy the modern perspective that he brings to each passage. It gives me food for thought as I approach the Scriptural text.

"modern perspective" False doctrine I'd say!!! so to the OP:

Don't buy NT Wright books.  He sounds like a Jehovah's Witness read for yourself [[Comments from Ephesians 1:11-14]]:

"But what is this new promised land? What is the promised inheritance?

The standard Christian answer for many years and in many traditions has been: ‘Heaven’. Heaven, it has been thought, is the place to which we are going. Great books like John Bunyan’s Pilgrim’s Progress have been written in which the happy ending, rather than an inheritance suddenly received from a relative, is the hero reaching the end of this worldly life and going off to share the life of heaven. But that isn’t what Paul says, here or elsewhere.

The inheritance he has in mind, so it appears from the present passage and the whole chapter, is the whole world, when it’s been renewed by a fresh act of God’s power and love. Paul has already said in verse 10 that God’s plan in the Messiah is to sum up everything in heaven and earth. God, after all, is the creator; he has no interest in leaving earth to rot and making do for all eternity with only one half of the original creation. God intends to flood the whole cosmos, heaven and earth together, with his presence and grace, and when that happens the new world that results, in which Jesus himself will be the central figure, is to be the ‘inheritance’ for which Jesus’ people are longing.

At the moment, therefore, the people who in this life have come to know and trust God in Jesus are to be the signs to the rest of the world that this glorious future is on the way." 

 

Wright, T. (2004). Paul for Everyone: The Prison Letters: Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, and Philemon (12). London: Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge.

Plus his style sucks. It sucks in that he always starts with some dumb *** story of him and then tries to push to much a point trying to make it fit by forcing it into the text and according to him that's his "scholarly" explanation and application.  Plus in his dumb translation he adds words that aren't even on the text greek text.  Bloody him for shame!

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Giovanni

 

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Jerry M | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 7 2012 6:26 PM

And the bully steps out onto the beach and runs over and kicks over the sand castle, yelling its only a dumb sand castle.  No one appreciates it, but it accomplishes its purpose, which is to draw attention to the bully.

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Giovanni Baggio | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 7 2012 7:06 PM

Jerry M:

And the bully steps out onto the beach and runs over and kicks over the sand castle, yelling its only a dumb sand castle.  No one appreciates it, but it accomplishes its purpose, which is to draw attention to the bully.

Well isn't that what JW's teach? If you say no you're in denial...LOL...After hitting the lotto tonight I'll go visit NT Wright and tell him in his face he's wrong about this earth being renewed in the future and that he's just a JW in disguise...LOL

The worse thing is people buy into his false conclusions because they love "his modern perspectives" LOL Modern? that started with the JW's before 1914.

Roger that...queesssssssssssssssh...over!

Devil Wink

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 7 2012 7:48 PM

Dear Giovanni,

Here's a good passage you might want to consider when reading NT Wright or anybody else: 1 Thessalonians 5:21.  Now let me ask you: If NT Wright said in his commentary to "Go and jump off a cliff" would you do it just because he said it? No, right? Now if he said, "Be loyal to God and try your best to serve Him" would you do it -- I know I would.  So the point is "Prove all things, hold fast that which is good." There are no perfect Bible commentators because that's all they are "Commentators" and each one is going to add their own personal "theology flavor" to a passage.  Just make sure to double check with Scriptures before you take their word for it (Acts 17:11).

Thanks and blessings!

DAL

Edit: PS. Personally, I like NT Wright's style.  It's used a lot by public speakers to get people's attention.  Tell a story, make a point...tell a story, make a point.  Craig Valentine uses it and Darren Lacroix uses it also and they are both very effective.  You should try it some time.

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Norman Low | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 7 2012 7:52 PM

Thanks for all the information!

 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 7 2012 10:21 PM

Giovanni Baggio:
He sounds like a Jehovah's Witness read for yourself

You really had me laughing here trying to imagine an Anglican Jehovah's Witness. Unfortunately the language of your last paragraph turned my laughter into a scowl.Sad

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Daniel Bender | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 5:36 AM

I want to thank almost everyone for their posts on N. T. Wright. I do not own any of his books and have considered purchasing them at this great price. The only thing I know of the author is from what I have read concerning his New Perspective on Paul. I appreciate the screen shots and the comments, which were very helpful. I will make a purchase this morning.

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PetrosD | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 4:38 PM

I like his writing style. I think he can be 'deep' and thoughtful but not lose the common man. He is (was?) the Bishop of Durham if that makes any difference to anyone.

As for him being a Jehovah Witness, that's a bad joke, right?

You can find most of his stuff accessible for scrutiny or nit-picking or however you are moved here: http://www.ntwrightpage.com/

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 5:21 PM

PL:

Can someone comment on the other NT Wright titles that are also currently on sale but are not part of the Everyone's Series?  Are they all theological / academic in nature or are some also pastoral / devotional in approach?

Thanks in advance.

Peter

In addition to the comments made about his trilogy (Jesus and the People of God, etc) and the commentaries, I wanted to say that I love his "Surprised by Hope" book.  Not overly academic, but I don't find it devotional, either.  renewed my understanding of life with God in more concrete terms, regarding the new heaven/earth, and the implications of that for life here-and-now.

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