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Unix | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Apr 15 2012 3:13 AM

As my beliefs are closest to the Catholic Church, and second closest to Mennonite Brethren, (according to Selectsmart.com) and I'm forced to go 2 semesters in a Baptist Bible college because it's the only college my grades are sufficient for that includes Biblical Greek, I would be very much interested in Steve Ray's works.

+ I'm somewhat unorthodox in my beliefs and trying to find out what the Johannite Church was like ~AD 90.

Steve K. Ray has done good research on litterature. I would really need some Catholic backing.

I LOVE going to the Catholic Church, they have it in British English over here in the Stockholm cathedral.. but I'm all the time going risking to go far astray as I spend a lot of time thinking on my own on theological topics.

That was it on books.

Also, I would like to have a friend in Stockholm/Uppsala: http://www.christianforums.com/t7614200/

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 15 2012 3:22 AM

Juho, welcome to the Logos forums!

Just to clarify, are you asking for Logos to make Steve K. Ray's books available in Logos format? There was no mention of Logos in your post, so you probably ought to have made that more explicit if that's what you intended.

Some of the other stuff in your post was either irrelevant (recounting your personal theological position) or else made it look a bit spammish, I'm afraid to say. This isn't a Christian meet-up site, and we're not supposed to promote other websites such as the one in your subject line.

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Unix | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 15 2012 3:36 AM

Yes I meant that I wish some of those books would be made available to Logos. (I thought that is presupposed in this forum.) It was unclear whether You also wished for Steve Ray items?

Sorry for the personal information, but I just wanted to describe the problem here in the Nordic, we don't have much of a choice over here regarding Bible colleges, even if I would have good grades from high-school I still wouldn't be able to get a lot of Catholic tuition, only to read Biblical Greek separately. There isn't even a Catholic Catechumen -group with the priest in English because it's difficult to gather a group he said. There's only in the local languages which I try to avoid in religious circumstances.

I won't be writing the contact request in more posts.

I think I'm a pretty typical case: I'm on my own in matters of belief and reading the Bible. Really hard to find anyone to discuss with face-to-face. The cathedral (where they have the English Mass), closes a few minutes after the Mass and the cafeteria is not open on regular weekends, not in English nor in the local language.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 15 2012 8:05 AM

On topic reply:

These are the books Steve Ray has written:

Steve has used Logos almost as long as Rosie, so I'm sure he'd be happy to see his books here, but I'm less sure the market is big enough. Vyrso might work, though.

 

Off topic reply:

Rosie, are you having a bad day or something? We all know what church you go to. You've told us at a dozen times or more. So why this sudden urge to set a newbie straight with such language, when his post is no more off topic than many others we've seen? You usually do that far more gently.

That said, Juho, Rosie is right. These forums are for discussing Logos. We are explicitly asked not to discuss anything controversial, like religious or political beliefs. And, believe me, Catholicism is about as controversial as it gets around here. Posts like yours can very easily set off an avalanche of anti-Catholicism that makes this a rather nasty place for the next few weeks. So please stay on focus.

Also, as a Swede and theologically, if not formally, Catholic, I have to say that I don't quite recognize the country and church you describe. If you click on your name in one of your posts, you'll get to your profile page. Scroll down to the bottom, and you'll (soon) find a message there.

 

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Unix | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 15 2012 8:53 AM

I haven't completed high-school, so yes it's impossible for me to get into higher studies. I would have about 1 semester left, but I've read all teacher-led courses  and I wouldn't do well reading the courses by myself, it's not my way of learning. And I'm still waiting for inspiration to other areas of studies than religion. Besides, the higher studies here are not theologically what I would like to read.

Thanks for the hint You wrote on my profile, I appreciate, maybe I can meet some Catholic that way.

I think it's a good thing that the cathedral closes after Mass, it's easier for everyone to focus that way. 

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 15 2012 9:06 AM

fgh:

These are the books Steve Ray has written:

Steve has used Logos almost as long as Rosie, so I'm sure he'd be happy to see his books here, but I'm less sure the market is big enough. Vyrso might work, though.

You discussion intrigued me to have a look into the "St John's Gospel" bible study. Wow - from the Look-into pages at Amazon I couldn't refrain from buying it as a kindle version. Somehow when I read "bible study" I think of small-group material (Navigator's or Serendipidy - a bit text, some questions and much room for answers) - this is a 450+ pages book and the one star missing from the single non-five rating on Amazon is because it doesn't include the text itself!

This is heavily cross-referenced, especially to the CCC, but also to some of the "usual suspects" - from the bibliography it could as well be evangelical - so please don't do it in Vyrso. I promise I'll buy it in Logos format! 

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 15 2012 2:11 PM

fgh:
Rosie, are you having a bad day or something? We all know what church you go to. You've told us at a dozen times or more. So why this sudden urge to set a newbie straight with such language, when his post is no more off topic than many others we've seen? You usually do that far more gently.

My apologies, I was up late, tired, and somewhat suspicious because of the three URLs to off-site websites. Like KS4J I was giving the newbie poster the benefit of the doubt, starting off with a cheerful welcome to the forums, but I'm afraid I did suspect someone with another agenda. I am very sorry about that. I've since looked at other posts and see that this is a legitimate new user who is just a bit unfamiliar with our forum etiquette (and I did offer an extensive response over on another thread). I am very sorry Juho. You are most welcome to share where you're coming from theologically, but as fgh rightly commented (and this was also on my mind) there are anti-Catholics here (I'm not one of them!) and you could be walking into a minefield by sharing so openly when you're brand new here. Best to get to know the feel of the place first before telling those sorts of details. And as I see on the other thread, your position is even farther afield from mainstream Logos users than the traditional Catholic church, so you probably aren't going to find Logos willing to do research for you to find books that would be just right for you that they can publish. They are a business and as such need to produce products that will have a large enough market to make it worth their effort. Yours seems a very tiny niche market, I'm afraid.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 15 2012 3:59 PM

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Steve Ray | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 25 2012 7:31 AM

Steve Ray here. Thanks for your kind words. I am a daily Logos user. My Study Guide on St. John's Gospel was written using Logos! I will help in any way possible to get my books on Logos so that I myself have better access to them :-)

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 25 2012 7:54 AM

Steve Ray:
I will help in any way possible to get my books on Logos

Nice to hear. After Mick's post, I looked closer at the Amazon page and decided I too definitely want 'St John' in Logos.

Steve Ray:
so that I myself have better access to them :-)

Haven't you made them into Personal Books? Unlike the rest of us, you've got the electronic files. And no copyright problem. Smile

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Hapax Legomena | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 25 2012 9:12 AM

fgh:
I looked closer at the Amazon page and decided I too definitely want 'St John' in Logos.

Yes

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Dean J | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 25 2012 10:03 AM

Steve Ray:

Steve Ray here. Thanks for your kind words. I am a daily Logos user. My Study Guide on St. John's Gospel was written using Logos! I will help in any way possible to get my books on Logos so that I myself have better access to them :-)

As a conservative Protestant I would love to see the Commentary on John available in my Logos library. 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 25 2012 9:06 PM

Steve Ray:
I will help in any way possible to get my books on Logos so that I myself have better access to them :-)

One idea is contacting Logos Product Suggestions => http://www.logos.com/about/contact

Keep Smiling Smile

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Unix | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 15 2012 5:40 PM

Quick update: I was unable to enter the baptist Bible college, they replied by postal mail that I'm over-qualified.

Right now I'm continuing to try to learn Gk on my own:
http://www.christianforums.com/t7663680/

In approximately a couple of years from now I'll apply for a separate Gk course.

I went to the youth group that fgh hinted about, it's good although small. They don't have anything during the summer vacation.

Socially I totter along. There's been a bit of hassle with 1 of my 2 email addresses' not functioning for receiving emails. And one girl hasn't written anything more after an initial message (maybe it was the late hour). And a third girl hasn't written for ½ a month now. This is how it's usually been, someone has an initial interest to discuss theology or Bibles with me, but quickly discontinues the contact, so this still looks to be dragging on.

Now I found a brief local distance study Bible college, the reason I noticed it, was that our bishop has allowed the publication of some material there:
http://www.bibelskolan.com/litterator/arborelius/index.shtml

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Unix | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 6 2012 3:25 PM

By PM:ing me, I meant on Christianforums. Suggestion to new friend: maybe You should think of buying the Hermenia Continental Commentaries -series this month, July 2012: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/51717.aspx
... then we could do a lot of research together!

A now 23-year-old girl who knew me 13-14½ months ago surprisingly called me a few days ago and wants to go to the Catholic Church with me tomorrow. She's from a Catholic country but she hasn't been reading the Bible all that much recently because she finds it complex. I'll try to help her out. I don't know yet how well she'll manage to discuss theology with me. (She apologized for having went and lost some of my gears 13 months ago.)

My 40-year old female friend downloaded a Bible in English that I had recommended, to her cell today + a Swedish 1998 Bible that she has in print also. She reads the Bible regularely, but she's only beginning to understand theology and has taken very elementary classes.

Neither of these girls will be able to do in-depth studies with me, nor afford buying a bunch of books, and since we all live on different sides of the city it's impossible for me to hand out all my books all the time, at best I can print or copy some loose pages for them (and You if You don't have the same books).

I applied to a Catholic school, same as the now 40-year-old went to half her life ago, that has just the right high-school classes that I haven't taken yet: maths intermediate course, nature science advanced course, English (somewhat by global standards) advanced course, + classes to fill up to full-time: helping each other's out with exercises, ethics, cleaning of the school, cooking food, ecclesiastical Latin. I'm not sure how much Latin I will have time for. + I really don't know yet whether the studies will start in mid-August 2012 or January 2013, I applied late because like I said in the previous post I was over-qualified to the studies I first applied to.

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Unix | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 26 2012 4:35 AM

We went to Church once (the "state" "Lutheran" Church, it's not orthodox Lutheran & it's not state anymore since the turn of the millennia), but now she has met a guy and stopped seeing me.

Unix:
A now 23-year-old girl who knew me 13-14½ months ago surprisingly called me a few days ago and wants to go to the Catholic Church with me

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 13 2013 2:47 PM

NB.Mick:

fgh:

You discussion intrigued me to have a look into the "St John's Gospel" bible study. Wow - from the Look-into pages at Amazon I couldn't refrain from buying it as a kindle version. Somehow when I read "bible study" I think of small-group material (Navigator's or Serendipidy - a bit text, some questions and much room for answers) - this is a 450+ pages book and the one star missing from the single non-five rating on Amazon is because it doesn't include the text itself!

This is heavily cross-referenced, especially to the CCC, but also to some of the "usual suspects" - from the bibliography it could as well be evangelical - so please don't do it in Vyrso. I promise I'll buy it in Logos format! 

Time to keep your promise: Steve Ray Collection (2 vols.).Smile

EDIT: I just noticed: the papacy book's got an endorsement by Cardinal Schönborn. Given that Schönborn is a student of Joseph Ratzinger's, and probably on the top 10, or at least top 20, list to become new pope, I'd say that's an endorsement of some weight... Smile

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 14 2013 12:04 AM

fgh:
Time to keep your promise: Steve Ray Collection (2 vols.).Smile

Thanks for pointing it out, I might have missed it - I'm in.

We need some more buyers to put this into development, though...

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 14 2013 3:41 AM

NB.Mick:
We need some more buyers to put this into development, though...

Agreed. Go write a review on the product page.Smile Make sure to point out that you're not Catholic. That will make other non-Catholics more willing to trust the recommendation.

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Sleiman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 10 2013 7:15 AM

fgh:
Go write a review on the product page.
One more book by Steve Ray is now available to write a review on: Crossing the Tiber

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