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Brian Davidson | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Apr 16 2012 9:50 AM

I'm not sure why my Andersen-Forbes syntax database is version .90 when the Andersen-Forbes website says, "The A-F database of August 2010 (v0.95) is part of the current Logos release."

Can someone comment on this?

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 16 2012 11:06 AM

Brian Davidson:

I'm not sure why my Andersen-Forbes syntax database is version .90 when the Andersen-Forbes website says, "The A-F database of August 2010 (v0.95) is part of the current Logos release."

Can someone comment on this?

There is a possibility that Logos is working on a new version.  It is also possible that the website is simply wrong.

george
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Brian Davidson | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 16 2012 11:09 AM

For reference: http://andersen-forbes.org/301.html

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 16 2012 11:27 AM

Hi Brian

Check the title page - I think you will find it says 0.95 - even though the Logos title field reports 0.90!

This was discussed in http://community.logos.com/forums/t/27299.aspx

Graham

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Brian Davidson | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 16 2012 11:50 AM

Thanks, Graham!

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 16 2012 1:18 PM

Well, mine says ‘90’, Andersen, Francis I. and A. Dean Forbes. The Hebrew Bible: Andersen-Forbes Phrase Marker Analysis (V 0.90, Aug 09). Bellingham, WA: Logos Bible Software, 2009.

Graham, your thread referral is dated dec 2010, two years old.....So maybe we need a developer from HQ to address this issue instead of maybe guessing....I dunno....

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 16 2012 1:30 PM

Room4more:

Well, mine says ‘90’, Andersen, Francis I. and A. Dean Forbes. The Hebrew Bible: Andersen-Forbes Phrase Marker Analysis (V 0.90, Aug 09). Bellingham, WA: Logos Bible Software, 2009.

Graham, your thread referral is dated dec 2010, two years old.....So maybe we need a developer from HQ to address this issue instead of maybe guessing....I dunno....

 

THE HEBREW BIBLE : ANDERSEN-FORBES ANALYZED TEXT.

Version 0.95
(August 2010)
Copyright 2010 Francis I. Andersen and A. Dean Forbes.

All rights reserved.

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 16 2012 1:48 PM

Analyzed Text[do not see any v90 or 95:

 

The Hebrew Bible: Andersen-Forbes Analyzed Text

, Logos Bible Software, 2008.

 

Analyzed Text[do not see any v90 or 95: found it.....Embarrassed [i'm gettin' too old for this....hehehhe].

THE HEBREW BIBLE : ANDERSEN-FORBES ANALYZED TEXT.

Version 0.95
(August 2010)
Copyright 2010 Francis I. Andersen and A. Dean Forbes.

All rights reserved.

 

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Dean Forbes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 17 2012 9:42 AM

Version 0.95 (Aug 2010) is in the current release, as the andersen-forbes.org website and the AFPMA heading indicate. Why the database label wrongly has "The Hebrew Bible: Andersen-Forbes Phrase Marker Analysis (0.90)" is known only to the Logos minions.

The folks at Logos are at work getting version 0.97 (Mar 2012) ready for release. Version 0.97 includes about 30,000 improvements in all, including greatly improved text type assignments, extended periphrastics, resolution of additional polysemic cue phrases, and cleaned up verb "semantics/valence" . Once version 0.97 is released, I plan to put a brief white paper explaining the improvements on our website.

We are actively at work on version 1.0. It will finally realize the "full representation" described in section 9.2 of our recently released book on Biblical Hebrew grammar. It likely will take the better part of a year to prepare 1.0 for release.

Hope that clarifies matters...

 

Dean Forbes

Feedback always welcomed!

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 17 2012 9:45 AM

Thanks Dean

Appreciate the clarification and the ongoing work.

Graham

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 17 2012 10:18 AM

Thanks, Dean. I just did an update on the resources but still have the same conflicting dates with the 'Phrase Marker Analysis'.

Maybe if Bob or a developer is lurking, they can speak some and clarify the issue….

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Vincent Setterholm | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 17 2012 10:37 AM

The current shipping version is 0.95. Looks like we missed updating a piece of metadata or two, but the files (text, graphs, syntax database) are in sync.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 17 2012 11:26 AM

Thanks Vincent.

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Todd Robel | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 18 2012 1:31 PM

Hi Dean!  Where can I find a detailed explanation of how to use your syntax?  Todd

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Vincent Setterholm | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 18 2012 1:57 PM

Todd Robel:
Where can I find a detailed explanation of how to use your syntax?

Check out the Eisenbrauns title Biblical Hebrew Grammar Visualized (https://www.eisenbrauns.com/ECOM/_3I71FCYV1.HTM).

We also had a disk of videos on syntax searching made in the days of LDLS 3 that I believe Dr. Heiser is reshooting for Logos 4. So that's something to watch for.

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Dean Forbes | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 21 2012 5:28 AM

There are two issues here:

1. For an explanation of our grammar, see our recently published book, Biblical Hebrew Grammar Visualized. But, as we note in its preface, "this book is not a user manual for the Andersen-Forbes data as realized by the Logos software" (p. xii).

2. For "a detailed explanation of how to use [our] syntax", you will need to consult the teaching materials produced by Logos. The pair of tutorial white papers on our web site (andersen-forbes.org) assumes Logos 3, alas. I have not [yet?] sacrificed time from other projects to update them for Logos 4.

Too many ideas, too little time...

Dean

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 21 2012 6:01 AM

I got the cited syntax searching videos a few months back. They're quite good. And of course, they feature the best software ever written (Libronix!).

But an update for the 'blue one' would work too, since the videos are gone.


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Dominick Sela | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 21 2012 5:56 PM

That's nice that 0.97 is coming soon!

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Martin Grainger Dean | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 24 2012 2:15 PM
Any updates on this? Martin.
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Vincent Setterholm | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 24 2012 2:31 PM

Martin Grainger Dean:
Any updates on this?

The update is ready to go, but there was a snag with the rebuilding of two of the reverse interlinears (one of which was the KJV), so I think we're waiting for this to be resolved to ship the update. I'm as anxious to get this out the door as anyone, but I don't have an estimate for you.

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