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Evan Boardman | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Apr 16 2012 2:07 PM

Wow that didnt stay in Cp for long. Guess it has a little for everyone. Smile

http://www.logos.com/product/18602/the-worlds-great-sermons

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alabama24 | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 16 2012 2:14 PM

I just bid $15. Anyone else?

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Jerry M | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 16 2012 2:34 PM

alabama24:

I just bid $15. Anyone else?

We only have until Friday so I bid $20.  Hoping to get it for $15,

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Ted Hans | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 16 2012 2:52 PM

Jerry M:
Hoping to get it for $15,

Hoping here also for $15

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Brother Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 16 2012 3:43 PM

Everyone loves a little Preachin' from Basil of Caesarea... I'M IN!

Overview

The World's Great Sermons brings together 10 volumes full of the best sermons ever preached—from the fourth century to the twentieth! Over 100 notable preachers are represented, from Basil of Caesarea to Charles Spurgeon. Each sermon is preceded by a short biography of its author and after each sermon title the Scripture references that are covered in the sermon are given. These sermons were selected not only for their literary and rhetorical excellences, but in every case for their deep spiritual insight and for strengthening your Christian faith.

A treasure-trove of biblical wisdom and practical advice for living faithfully, with the Logos edition all Scripture passages in The World's Great Sermons (10 vols.) are tagged and appear on mouse-over. Logos also makes navigating lengthy, multi-volume works easier than ever—topics and Scripture references can be searched instantly with the click of a mouse. The World's Great Sermons (10 vols.) is perfect for scholars, students, pastors, and laypersons alike.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 16 2012 4:15 PM

I'm afraid my interest disappeared when 'Basil to Spurgeon' turned out to mean five pre-Reformation sermons -- one of them extremely atypical -- and 9.5 volumes of post-Reformation ones...

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Wild Eagle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 16 2012 5:44 PM

Wow, I almost missed it

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Harbey Santiago | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 17 2012 5:50 AM

@fgh: My thoughts exactly I guess after Basil nothing worth preaching about happened until the ReformersBig Smile came.

 

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 17 2012 6:15 AM

Harbey Santiago:
@fgh: My thoughts exactly I guess after Basil nothing worth preaching about happened until the ReformersBig Smile came.

Maybe it has more to do with the invention of the printing press and the much elevated focus on preaching in protestantism as opposed to catholicism and EO Christianity. But then I haven't looked into the details of the collection and it's editorial viewpoints.

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Ken McGuire | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 17 2012 6:52 AM

NB.Mick:

Harbey Santiago:
@fgh: My thoughts exactly I guess after Basil nothing worth preaching about happened until the ReformersBig Smile came.

Maybe it has more to do with the invention of the printing press and the much elevated focus on preaching in protestantism as opposed to catholicism and EO Christianity. But then I haven't looked into the details of the collection and it's editorial viewpoints.

What many of us Protestants don't understand is that the Reformation grew out of many medieval movements to bring the church out to the people.  The centuries before the Reformation was when many religious orders, like the Franciscans and Dominicans (called the order of PREACHERS) were founded and had explosive growth.  Luther himself was a member of one of these.  He was a Friar (not technically a monk) of the Augustinian order.

The history is admittedly a bit chaotic, but there there is certainly enough there that we should admit that Preaching was important.  Of course, there was animated theological discussion about the CONTENT of this preaching...

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 17 2012 8:37 AM

Kenneth McGuire:

NB.Mick:

Harbey Santiago:
@fgh: My thoughts exactly I guess after Basil nothing worth preaching about happened until the ReformersBig Smile came.

Maybe it has more to do with the invention of the printing press and the much elevated focus on preaching in protestantism as opposed to catholicism and EO Christianity. But then I haven't looked into the details of the collection and it's editorial viewpoints.

What many of us Protestants don't understand is that the Reformation grew out of many medieval movements to bring the church out to the people.  The centuries before the Reformation was when many religious orders, like the Franciscans and Dominicans (called the order of PREACHERS) were founded and had explosive growth.  Luther himself was a member of one of these.  He was a Friar (not technically a monk) of the Augustinian order.

The history is admittedly a bit chaotic, but there there is certainly enough there that we should admit that Preaching was important.  Of course, there was animated theological discussion about the CONTENT of this preaching...

Kenneth,

maybe I made myself not clear enough in the short sentence. I paid much for my Logos copy of Hughes Oliphant Old's "The Reading and Preaching of the Scriptures in the Worship of the Christian Church", which surely is more even-handed in terms of spreading the material over time. Of course there was preaching and famous preachers throughout church history, and prominent church fathers had their homilies written, copied and sent around.

I wanted to indicate that after the invention of the printing press, much more sermons were preserved since it was easier to copy and distribute. The protestant reformers used this as a way of propagandizing their faith. Maybe it's comparable to the internet in the increase of material available and kept for the future.

The other thing is that (according to my very limited understanding) the center of RCC mass service is the Eucharist, whereas the center of protestant services is the sermon - one may see this even in church architecture: altar versus pulpit in the center, elevated, "crowned". A bit of anecdotary info here: I recall that people in free churches or evangelical parachurches in Germany in the last century often regarded everything before the sermon as "introduction" and those leading this part indicating that the "real" service began with the preacher - all scripture reading, singing, offering etc. thus would have been somehow before the service - and subsequent to the sermon there was just a (non-mandatory) song and then the preacher gave the blessing - finished. Eucharist once or twice the year. This tradition at least is more likely to produce and preserve sermons than liturgies, lectionaries, highly styled prayers etc.  

However the set in question here seems to include only a limited number of sermons that predate the 19th century - most are from 18xx (where it was common that preachers had their sermons collected, printed, bound and where less experienced clergy (or non-clergy) would read sermons from these books from the pulpit rather than doing their own thing. I see some names from different corners of the protestant spectrum, but I didn't check whether these are just butterflies in a Puritan field or real diversity exists and whether RC Catholics or EO are included at all.     

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 17 2012 8:55 AM

Whilst I do appreciate the comments:

To paraphrase what was stated to me sometime back: there’s not much more that can be proven so there’s probably not much more that can be added to the discussion that could enlighten us. As to the ebb and flow of the forum, I do not recall any comment that leads me to the usage or instructional usage of Logos Bible Software.

Granted we all have opinions and the resource is in CP, but where’s the instructions on how to use the resource?

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Wild Eagle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 17 2012 9:29 AM

Almost at $15. That will make $.75 per volume

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Bill Coley | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 17 2012 10:28 AM

fgh:

I'm afraid my interest disappeared when 'Basil to Spurgeon' turned out to mean five pre-Reformation sermons -- one of them extremely atypical -- and 9.5 volumes of post-Reformation ones...

 

My interest disappeared when they chose not to include any of my sermons in the set (and apparently, it wasn't only that I came after Spurgeon, either!)

Bill

 

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BillS | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 17 2012 12:29 PM

alabama24:

I just bid $15. Anyone else?

Me too... just went & checked, & it looks like we got it for $15.

 

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 18 2012 11:52 AM

$15!  Now that is how community pricing ought to work. 

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Wild Eagle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 18 2012 8:56 PM

Michael Childs:

$15!  Now that is how community pricing ought to work. 

It seems like thre is big possibility to make it for $10. We just need more people who are willing to bid for $10Yes

I think 50 cents per book is a good gift Wink

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Johannes Hendrik Menkveld | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 18 2012 11:36 PM

uhm, I'm really into making it $10, but than it is 1 dollar per book, and not 50 cents

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 19 2012 6:18 PM

Johannes Hendrik Menkveld:
I'm really into making it $10, but than it is 1 dollar per book

With bit less than 18 hours remaining to bid, noticed => The World's Great Sermons (10 vols.) is approaching $ 10

Note: current projected price is $ 1.50 per volume.  A wee bit over 1 week from being listed to closing.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 20 2012 4:06 PM

NB.Mick:
The other thing is that (according to my very limited understanding) the center of RCC mass service is the Eucharist

Certainly the Eucharist is the center of the Mass, but what does that have to do with this discussion? To the best of my knowledge most medieval preaching took place outside of Mass. I have a 13th century Franciscan church nearby, and you can still see where they used to stand when they preached to the crowds outside the church.

Of course, there's also the little fact that Protestant reformers were in the habit of destroying every Catholic book they could lay hands on. It doesn't seem very fair to first destroy Catholic sermons and then use the lack of them as 'proof' that Catholics never cared about preaching... (not saying you're saying that; just a general observation)

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