Interesting Words in Exegetical Guide
What is the Interesting Words feature in the Exegetical Guide? How are the interesting words selected? How are others using this feature in their exegesis?
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Hi Angela,
I found Interesting Words in the Passage Guide, but, so far not in the Exegetical Guide. In L3, the Passage Guide had Important words in a passage or words that were more relevant to the passage studied and given you understand or study more relevant words, you gain better understanding of the whole passage. It's something to use, probably, when I still haven't found satisfaction in my study and I need to pursue other words in the passage.
Hope this helps a little.
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Joan Korte said:
I found Interesting Words in the Passage Guide, but, so far not in the Exegetical Guide.
You can add passage guide elements to exegetical guides and vice versa
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AngelaPotter said:
What is the Interesting Words feature in the Exegetical Guide?
It is testing the new computer technology for mind reading. If it works, we'll never worry about typing errors, spelling errors, or lost functions again. How else would Logos know the words were interesting.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Philip Spitzer said:
So why does my section keep coming up blank?
so much for trying to "serious-up" these threads... [^o)]
Robert Pavich
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Robert Pavich said:
so much for trying to "serious-up" these threads...
Sorry....I was just in a mood yesterday....I will do better today....."seriousing-up".....
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AngelaPotter said:
How are the interesting words selected?
Basically it compares the frequencies of the words in the passage to their overall frequencies in the larger text. Words that are more frequent than you'd expect often correspond to "more important to this passage". It's not perfect, but it can help focus your attention on specific content in the passage. I find it tends to work better for ranges of several verses to a pericope: a single verse is usually too short, and a whole chapter too long. But these are just broad suggestions.
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Thanks Sean. Thats now a FAQ: http://wiki.logos.com/Interesting_Words
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Thanks, Sean! Based on word count is what it looked like to me, but I was hoping that the criteria for selection was a little more "interesting" based on theologically loaded words or textual variants or controversial word translations amongst biblical scholars and theologians. I'll keep dreaming!
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I actually find this to be a hugely helpful tool, especially for a pericope in the original language.
Almost invariably, the tool does an accurate job of highlighting the theme of the passage and yielding insights into what the original writer was trying to emphasize.
It makes fairly simple sense--the key topic or figures are likely to be mentioned frequently within a passage, and the keywords stand out even more when the they are not as used elsewhere in scripture.
In short, one of my favorite grammatical exegetical tools.
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Are there any ways to put all the interesting words into horizontal only? Vertical one are harder to read.
Thanks.
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It would be beneficial to create a feature that allow users to limit the number of interesting words returned. For example. When I search in a pericope (Gal 5:1-15), there are more than 50 interesting words that display. I would much prefer maybe 10 most interesting words at most. It seems to me that important words in L3 had fair fewer words returned, which I recall being more useful, at minimum, it was less cluttered.
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Ray D said:
I would much prefer maybe 10 most interesting words at most.
Since "interesting" is a statistical measurement, I could see a list in the order of deviance from the norm ... you're then free to read down the list as far as you wish.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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how to order it according to the frequency? And how to make everything horizontal only?
Thanks.
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Cheung Ka Hei Kolen said:
how to order it according to the frequency? And how to make everything horizontal only?
Neither is possible at this time. The size of the font is indicative of the amount of "interesting" ... it is a statistical measure of the difference between the frequency in this passage vs. "normal" frequency.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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I hope that they make a list format possible in the future. I find the current format difficult to read. Black and white would be helpful, but the current format for this and the topics make them useless as far as I am concerned. My eyes are getting older (along with the rest of me!), but surely there are others who find it visually distracting.
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Amen
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I agree. When I submit a whole book the words that come up are unreadable to me (even when I use the enlarge function) and trying to find the word in the list is near impossible.
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This topic has come up in several threads - there are solid reasons for how it is now; there are solid reasons for have textual analytics. The important things is not to confuse one for the other.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Dear MJ. Smith:
I am sure it has but being new to this I did not find the other threads. My observation is not with the analysis but with the visual impact. Not only am I not able to see all the words but the order to find them is also not user friendly. If you would point me to the thread that explains why the words must be jumbled up I would appreciate it. I think the format in Logos 3 is a much better format.
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For me, the most serious problem is that half of the words are vertical, for me, international readers, it is impossible to read it without turning my head straight up, and it looks so funny if you are having a bible study with the others.
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Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Kolen Cheung said:
For me, the most serious problem is that half of the words are vertical, for me, international readers, it is impossible to read it without turning my head straight up, and it looks so funny if you are having a bible study with the others.
My main issue with the "complaints" is that users are asking wordles to be something they are not and do not pretend to be. Wordles are not text analytics. 'Reading wordles' is a learned skill just as reading bar graphs and pie charts are learned skills. I have absolutely no problem with people wanting statistics, lists, etc. These are also useful presentations of similar information. Just don't blame a wordle for being a wordle.[:)]
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Thank you.
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MJ. Smith said:
Just don't blame a wordle for being a wordle
Thanks MJ for teaching me something new today. Didn't know the word cloud actually had a name, so now I know what a Wordle is.
In Christ,
Ken
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