SUGGESTION: Nickelsburg Hermeneia 1 Enoch Translation

Page 2 of 2 (36 items) < Previous 1 2
This post has 35 Replies | 2 Followers

Posts 11229
Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 26 2015 2:01 PM

Well, if Enoch was good enough for Clement (plus the church fathers demonstrating how the manuscripts survived Noah's flood), then by all means, yet one more translation is called forth:

'Let us stedfastly contemplate those who have perfectly ministered to His excellent glory. Let us take Enoch, who, being found righteous in obedience, was translated ....'

So there you go.

"God will save his fallen angels and their broken wings He'll mend."

Posts 2088
Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 26 2015 2:22 PM

George Somsel:
Of course I read a commentary rather than the scripture; don't you?  Wink 

Not me Angel

George Somsel:
BTW:  Are you now considering 1 Enoch to be scripture?

No, I was just making the comparison because they are similar in that they are books with commentaries.  One wouldn't want to use a commentary to reconstruct a text for ANY text.  I do think that 1 Enoch is very important for biblical studies, and that is why I want it!  It's funny, we had this conversation above about three years ago when I first made this suggestion.  I was waiting for you to bring up Charlesworth, so that we could say we rehashed everything from before.  Now we have come full circle.  Beer

MJ. Smith:

Joseph Turner is right here guys. Because Logos does not treat translations embedded as Scripture we cannot use it in text comparisons. References to the text do not work as it is the commentary not the Bible text that is opened as the link. All in all the handling of translations within a commentary is an abomination.

The Book of Enoch by Charles is rightly classified as Bible and should behave as Bible ... I just had a prioritization hassle with it this weekend when I want's Black's Commentary to display is in a Power Lookup. I was not happy with Logos inconsistencies.

Yes

Disclaimer:  I hate using messaging, texting, and email for real communication.  If anything that I type to you seems like anything other than humble and respectful, then I have not done a good job typing my thoughts.

Posts 9947
George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 26 2015 2:25 PM

MJ. Smith:

Joseph Turner is right here guys. Because Logos does not treat translations embedded as Scripture we cannot use it in text comparisons. References to the text do not work as it is the commentary not the Bible text that is opened as the link. All in all the handling of translations within a commentary is an abomination.

Does it make desolate?  Big Smile

MJ. Smith:

The Book of Enoch by Charles is rightly classified as Bible and should behave as Bible ... I just had a prioritization hassle with it this weekend when I want's Black's Commentary to display is in a Power Lookup. I was not happy with Logos inconsistencies.

Remember what Ralph Waldo Emerson said, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."  Wink

george
gfsomsel

יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

Posts 5302
Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 26 2015 3:06 PM

MJ. Smith:
The Book of Enoch by Charles is rightly classified as Bible and should behave as Bible ... I just had a prioritization hassle with it this weekend when I want's Black's Commentary to display is in a Power Lookup. I was not happy with Logos inconsistencies.

Logos tagging is far from perfect. I was delighted to see what was suppose to be a link to the Testament of Dan  linked and I thought fabulous I do not have to manually open up the Charlesworth and search for it... only to see it was linked to Daniel 6:4 and not the Testament of Dan 6:4. So believe me i understand your frustration.

-Dan 

Posts 29758
Forum MVP
MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 26 2015 3:19 PM

I hope you reported it as a typo/data error

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

Posts 5302
Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 26 2015 9:20 PM

I was on my iPad I know it was in an article dealing with angels but for the life of me I am not finding it... but then I have had a small glass of Benedictine so not at my shapes now... Found it done.

-Dan

Posts 2088
Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 18 2016 4:37 AM

I would like to bring this back up.  It would be nice if someone from Logos would comment on whether or not there is a chance this could be released.

Disclaimer:  I hate using messaging, texting, and email for real communication.  If anything that I type to you seems like anything other than humble and respectful, then I have not done a good job typing my thoughts.

Posts 769
Kiyah | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 17 2019 8:35 PM

I too would like to raise this as a suggestion yet again. I would love to see the stand alone Hermeneia Translation of 1 Enoch in Logos. It's the best translation and right now I have to either use my paperback copy (the horror! Big Smile)  or go through the big Hermeneia commentaries (2 vols.) in Logos to get to the translation.

Someone created a UserVoice suggestion that everyone should vote for: https://suggestbooks.uservoice.com/forums/308269-book-suggestions/suggestions/18546943-1-enoch-the-hermeneia-translation-paperback-oct

Can Logo please please please produce this resource??

Posts 11229
Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 18 2019 5:52 AM

I think we have a 'Hermie' in production. Maybe an Enoch would be an easy addition, afterward.

I was busily into Enoch yesterday ... the Logos resource  comparing the Parables to the more accepted Paulines. I really wish the Parables writer  (Enoch!!) would have just gone ahead and put in 100 bce in his text, to save later academics the chore of proving 100 bce! Parthians, Parthians!

"God will save his fallen angels and their broken wings He'll mend."

Posts 2088
Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 7 2020 9:58 AM

Bumping this again.  How do we have the Hermenera commentary series, but we cannot manage to get this?

Disclaimer:  I hate using messaging, texting, and email for real communication.  If anything that I type to you seems like anything other than humble and respectful, then I have not done a good job typing my thoughts.

Posts 562
Nick Steffen | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 7 2020 7:41 PM

It's particularly surprising because we do have the Hermeneia Jubilees translation

However, I would prefer Logos find a way to play nicely with all translations in commentaries.

Posts 2088
Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 7 2020 7:53 PM

Nick Steffen:

It's particularly surprising because we do have the Hermeneia Jubilees translation

However, I would prefer Logos find a way to play nicely with all translations in commentaries.

I had not seen this.  This does indeed make it more surprising.  Maybe it’s on its way!

Disclaimer:  I hate using messaging, texting, and email for real communication.  If anything that I type to you seems like anything other than humble and respectful, then I have not done a good job typing my thoughts.

Posts 2088
Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 9 2020 5:43 AM

It would be so comforting, especially in light of Nick’s pointing out that we already have the Jubilees translation in the works, to get a “We are hopeful that we will have this up soon,“ or “we are working on getting this.”  My OCD is really getting to me on this one for some reason.

Disclaimer:  I hate using messaging, texting, and email for real communication.  If anything that I type to you seems like anything other than humble and respectful, then I have not done a good job typing my thoughts.

Posts 158
LogosEmployee
Mike Hanes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 9 2020 8:12 AM

Joseph Turner:

It would be so comforting, especially in light of Nick’s pointing out that we already have the Jubilees translation in the works, to get a “We are hopeful that we will have this up soon,“ or “we are working on getting this.”  My OCD is really getting to me on this one for some reason.

Hi Joseph, I'll see what I can do about getting this in Logos. Thanks for your interest.

Posts 2088
Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 9 2020 8:16 AM

Mike Hanes:
Hi Joseph, I'll see what I can do about getting this in Logos. Thanks for your interest.

Thank you!!!

Disclaimer:  I hate using messaging, texting, and email for real communication.  If anything that I type to you seems like anything other than humble and respectful, then I have not done a good job typing my thoughts.

Posts 11229
Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 9 2020 8:32 AM

https://www.logos.com/product/37474/enoch-and-the-mosaic-torah-the-evidence-of-jubilees 

A tiny bit of irony, but the only 'complete' versions pf both Jubilees and 1 Enoch go back to the upper-Nile and Ethiopia, and thense their earlier translations. Of course, later fragments of each from Qumran, etc.

"God will save his fallen angels and their broken wings He'll mend."

Page 2 of 2 (36 items) < Previous 1 2 | RSS