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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 26 2012 6:55 PM

David P. Moore:

DAL:
There's another one worth mentioning but is not available in Logos.  It's Meredith's Book of Bible Lists.

You can get this book in your Logos library through Vyrso: http://vyrso.com/products/search?q=Meredith%27s+Book+of+Bible+Lists

 

WOW! Thank you David!!! I went ahead and got it.  I have the print version and I had been wanting to get it in Logos, but I guess "Vyrso-Logos" will do just fine.  Thanks again!

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 7 2012 1:24 AM

LegendsOfBatman:

Precisely. How does one eat a whole cow? Swallowing the entire cow in one bite, or, one hamburger/steak at a time? However, I would disagree with you, because one's progress in all the other commands mean diddley poop compared to the progress of loving God and loving people.
Imagine being before God on judgement day. You get to tell God how well you kept all the rules, except, you didn't master the loving God and people so well. The fact is, God will say, You should have loved me and loved others first, because when you love me and you love others, you won't steal from me, or others, you won't murder me or others, you won't lie to me or others.
I think you are meaning this, but, getting it backwards. We love God, we love people, then, we don't have to worry about the other laws; as they will have taken care of themselves.
Btw, 1st Corinthians 13 shows us how to love. When we are doing that list, or not doing it, we are loving people and God.

Actually, you are the one who is getting it backwards--the concept of loving God first and then responding with obedience is very intuitive and widely believed ...and it is also unbiblical and completely wrong. You agree that one cannot eat a cow in a single bite, and then reject the means of eating the cow a bite at a time. You also seem to think that there is some way of loving God that exists apart from obedience--which is a fairy tale charade. Yeishuu`a could not be clearer: His love of the Father is manifested in His obedience to His Father. Don't misunderstand my use of "manifested"...I don't mean that there is some "emotion" called love that subsequently expresses itself with obedience. I'm saying that obedience IS loving God and nothing else is or can be. My response to your assertion that my perspective is backwards is, first of all, 1 Jn. 5:3. That expresses PRECISELY and EXPLICITLY what "loving God" entails.

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Michael Kinch | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 9 2012 4:42 AM

Though it is not available is Logos yet, Thomas Blackaby has a book entitled "The Commands of Christ."  http://www.bhpublishinggroup.com/books/products.asp?p=9781433672781

 

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Christian Huls | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 19 2013 12:31 PM

I found these in search of the NT commands.  The first is an exhaustive, categorized list that was supposedly developed and organized by the Puritans.  The second, is just every command in order, uncategorized.

 

 http://www.cai.org/bible-studies/1050-new-testament-commands

 

http://www.jesuschristschurch.com/commands.html

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 19 2013 1:12 PM

Christian Huls:

 

I found these in search of the NT commands.  The first is an exhaustive, categorized list that was supposedly developed and organized by the Puritans.  The second, is just every command in order, uncategorized. 

 http://www.cai.org/bible-studies/1050-new-testament-commands 

http://www.jesuschristschurch.com/commands.html 

 I did a random read of your last link: 

Question: are we to take Matthew 18:8-9 as a command? How about Acts 19:4?

Seems to be a little confusion as to what is a ‘command’ vs ‘what is/could be’ an instruction…..

just asking.....

 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 19 2013 1:51 PM

Room4more:
Question: are we to take Matthew 18:8-9 as a command? How about Acts 19:4?

Luckily these questions need to be answered by the authors of the list not the provider of the links. This means we don't have to argue Biblical interpretation. Isn't that great?

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 19 2013 2:39 PM

MJ. Smith:

Luckily these questions need to be answered by the authors of the list not the provider of the links. This means we don't have to argue Biblical interpretation. Isn't that great?

Oh you r funny!

 How do you randomly suggest that an argument ensues from a simple question……if I didn’t know better I would say that you are instigating an argument…as opposed to letting the conversation flow.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 19 2013 2:48 PM

Room4more:
an argument ensues from a simple question

Randomly? I was just pointing out that you were asking the question of someone who should not try to answer. If your post had merely observed the omission of passages you thought should be included it would simply be the flow of the conversation. By converting the observation to a question that cannot be reasonably be answered, you convert your observation into something of a more confrontational tone. Fortunately, I've let the Rhetoric Hound into the backyard so she'll not be making an appearance.Big Smile Where is that ____ forum discourse analysis tool when I need it?

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Christian Huls | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 19 2013 3:58 PM

Agreed about Acts 19:4.  It is a repeat of a previous commnd.

I would say that Matt. 18:8-9 IS a command, though some see it as hyperbole. Is Christ's point not that we are to go to whatever extreme necessary, forsake whatever is necessary in order to be saved?  Granted, it is conditional... Still, even if instruction, is there much difference?

As MJ lightly observed, perhaps that is for each of us to wrestle with the Spirit about.  Where I to try and compile a list, I don't know that I would necessarily include these, but the list is a good start for reference.

incidentally, I though this categorize list was also interesting http://www.biblicalresearchreports.com/categorizedcommands.php

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 19 2013 4:46 PM

Christian Huls:

Agreed about Acts 19:4.  It is a repeat of a previous commnd.

I would say that Matt. 18:8-9 IS a command, though some see it as hyperbole. Is Christ's point not that we are to go to whatever extreme necessary, forsake whatever is necessary in order to be saved?  Granted, it is conditional... Still, even if instruction, is there much difference?

As MJ lightly observed, perhaps that is for each of us to wrestle with the Spirit about.  Where I to try and compile a list, I don't know that I would necessarily include these, but the list is a good start for reference.

incidentally, I though this categorize list was also interesting http://www.biblicalresearchreports.com/categorizedcommands.php

I would agree, but to a very small percentile w/you. If you really go thru the list putting each into the context to which they were spoken, it be clear that many are not commands. We tend to get confused as to what are instructions[things we can NOT decide to do] versus commands[things that we are told to do].

If we are to say that what Paul wrote are 'commands' per se, then we are following the words of Paul - wouldn't that be wrong? Yet, if we understand that Paul wrote instructions, the same as he stated to Timothy, then we can see the difference, well we should be able to do so....

The Vatican, from a dear re-formed Brother, vehemantly denied it's parishers to read the Bible, but when some started to do so they realized that they, the leaders, were wrong.......but i digress some might consider those 'fightin' words'....

In all, when we come across lists like these, lets not consider the 'one-liners' but delve into the passage, chapter, book, to really understand what is being said.

IE> the rich young ruler walk away - why? was the answer a command or an instruction?

 

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 19 2013 6:39 PM

Just so we are all on the same page here:

-You are aware that there are only 10 Commandments in the Bible, and that there are two main parts: The relationship between God and man - The relationship between man and man;

-Jesus [in the Gospels] re-iterated this more than once;

-Paul exponded on them - plenty.

Hope this helps to clarify any allusions..

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 19 2013 6:50 PM

Room4more:
10 Commandments in the Bible

Fun Logos challenge: Using only Logos resources find the division into 10 in each of these traditions (they all differ) Note which use Deuteronomy and which use Exodus.

  • Jewish
  • Catholic
  • Lutheran
  • Anglican

This puts us not only on the same page but also on topic.

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Christian Huls | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 19 2013 7:04 PM

Your argument is with Christ, Paul, and the other NT writers then... ;)

I understand that there are Ten Commandments, and Christ summed those up into two; and yet, we are still unable to keep them.  I am not interested in legalism.  I was simply looking for a list of all the commands and found those.  I thought it would make an interesting study.  You could look at all of the commands/instructions found in the NT as different aspects of fulfilling or keeping the Decalogue. 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 19 2013 7:27 PM

MJ. Smith:

Fun Logos challenge: Using only Logos resources find the division into 10 in each of these traditions (they all differ) Note which use Deuteronomy and which use Exodus.

  • Jewish
  • Catholic
  • Lutheran
  • Anglican

One search found many more variations of Ten Commandments plus some insights:

 Keep Smiling Smile

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 19 2013 7:33 PM

MJ. Smith:

Room4more:
10 Commandments in the Bible

Fun Logos challenge: Using only Logos resources find the division into 10 in each of these traditions (they all differ) Note which use Deuteronomy and which use Exodus.

  • Jewish
  • Catholic
  • Lutheran
  • Anglican

This puts us not only on the same page but also on topic.

True, I had to go so far back into my history to find the right layout that had all this info on it......that i couldn't believe that I still had it... 

Christian Huls:

 Your argument is with Christ, Paul, and the other NT writers then... ;)

I understand that there are Ten Commandments, and Christ summed those up into two; and yet, we are still unable to keep them.  I am not interested in legalism.  I was simply looking for a list of all the commands and found those.  I thought it would make an interesting study.  You could look at all of the commands/instructions found in the NT as different aspects of fulfilling or keeping the Decalogue.  

Really, there is no arguement to be had. If we understand the break-down of how they are presented:

Christ really never stated them one by one, yet insted stated that there were two, citing the two MAIN parts, and many times at that.

Paul on the other hand went beyond that and expounded on the 10; and the two; careful study of his writings clearly shows that he went beyond that and brought the sub-categories to the chruches, explaining to them what and why, only due to their lack of undserstanding based on their corrupted traditional habits.[Rom 13.9; 1 Cor 14.37 to start with]

He never gave anything new or added to the existing 10. If by expounding and giving proper exegit thereto constitutes a 'command' per se, then we grossly mis-interpret Paul and the Message he brought to the churches and to us.....and his understanding given to him.....

Hope this helps.......

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 19 2013 9:06 PM

Room4more:
there is no arguement to be had

Fun Logos challenge: find then build visual filters for

  • the 10 ethical commandments
  • the 10 ritual commandments
  • the 613 mitzvot
  • all the commands of the NT
  • all the commands of the OT

Then find the answer as to what denomination uses the 10 commandments most frequently in their worship services.

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Fr. Charles R. Matheny | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 20 2013 5:11 AM

It's difficult to deal with this subject without having a Theological discussion.

My input therefore is simply a couple of hints concerning  "Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you." from my studies/research.

There are over 600 "passages" that contain teachings we are commanded to believe/follow/observe.

These contain over 1000  teachings that we, as believers, are to follow/observe.

Yes, they have the weight of "commands".

"To whom much is given, much is expected" is often forgotten in our time. We have been given the greater , thus, more is expected, not less.

It's a study that is really quite shocking in the discoveries one makes.

I didn't do it with visual filters, but now that I have them, will be fun to re-do and see what I may have missed.

Great subject, will be interesting to see what can be done with software in this case.

Blessings.

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 20 2013 8:50 AM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):

One search found many more variations of Ten Commandments plus some insights:

"Insight" is an overly generous word to describe this extrabiblical proclamation from Easton's,,,

Pure fabrication. No such distinctions are made...YHWH clearly considers the "ceremonial" law to be a moral issue. Tohraah is "every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God."

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 20 2013 9:14 AM

David Betts:

On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets...

The first four of The TEN Commandments tell us how to love our Eternal Father YHWH.

The remaining six tell us how to love our neighbor as our self.

Though it isn't difficult to see how this "summation" was derived, it is nonetheless an artificial (and inaccurate) summary. All ten describe how we are to love YHWH. He is our Father, He was murdered, He was deceived, He was robbed, He was cheated on, what was rightfully His was coveted by others (the Pharisees). Also, the first four can be "love toward fellow man" when properly modeled--modelling appropriate behavior is loving others.

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 20 2013 9:52 AM

Christian Huls:

 I understand that there are Ten Commandments, and Christ summed those up into two; and yet, we are still unable to keep them. 

Speak for yourself. Smile

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