Was the original E4 Bible software, in Libronix format, free?
I was just wondering if there were any license restrictions on sharing it.
Thanks
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Paul Golder: Was the original E4 Bible software, in Libronix format, free? I was just wondering if there were any license restrictions on sharing it.
As I recall, E4 had perhaps the most strict policies of any publisher that has produced titles for the Libronix format. They used to have verses about stealing pop-up in some editions...
Here is an example of a Title Page excerpt from one of their books:
The publication is COPYRIGHTED in its entirety, editing, index, and content by: THE EPHESIANS FOUR GROUP, and is protected under copyright laws. This volume is for the use of one person only per CD Users are allowed to place this volume only on one personal computer (you may place it on two computers if you are the main user of both of the computers). No portion of this electronic text can be placed on the internet. © 1998 The Ephesians Four Group This edition is not abridged, but has been carefully edited and indexed by the Ephesians Four Group.
The publication is COPYRIGHTED in its entirety, editing, index, and content by: THE EPHESIANS FOUR GROUP, and is protected under copyright laws. This volume is for the use of one person only per CD
Users are allowed to place this volume only on one personal computer (you may place it on two computers if you are the main user of both of the computers). No portion of this electronic text can be placed on the internet. © 1998 The Ephesians Four Group
This edition is not abridged, but has been carefully edited and indexed by the Ephesians Four Group.
Paul Golder: Was the original E4 Bible software, in Libronix format, free? I was just wondering if there were any license restrictions on sharing it. Thanks
E4 gave away stuff from time to time, but they never released anything as public domain.
There's a difference.
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
Dan Pritchett:As I recall, E4 had perhaps the most strict policies of any publisher that has produced titles for the Libronix format. They used to have verses about stealing pop-up in some editions...
This answers my question, Thanks. I knew that from time to time they would offer their first CD for shipping only, but I did not realize that they were so restrictive.
Perhaps some day Logos will work things out with Kirkbride and offer the TCR...
Dan Pritchett:This edition is not abridged, but has been carefully edited and indexed by the Ephesians Four Group.
Dan
Are you saying or suggesting that the E4 resources are not reliable...they have been edited? This is potentially troubling and may cause me to want to remove those resources from my library.
Mark
MarkSwaim:Are you saying or suggesting that the E4 resources are not reliable...they have been edited? This is potentially troubling and may cause me to want to remove those resources from my library.
MarkSwaim: Are you saying or suggesting that the E4 resources are not reliable...they have been edited? This is potentially troubling and may cause me to want to remove those resources from my library. Mark
Mark, in this case editing doesn't refer to altering the text, but font-sizes, page lay-out, title-page design, etc. It's also possible that they fixed some typo's, and possibly Americanized the spelling of some words.
The E4 works are reliable in that they accurately preserve the original text.
Thanks Richard
Does anyone have any e4 freebiblesoftware? How does it work? Do I need to lisence it over the internet or does it just install to my computer? Please, Please respond. I really want to invest in some but their customer service is non existent.
Ted Hans: Gerard Seldon: How does your e4 disc work? I want to purchase some, in particular Lloyd Jones, J.C. Ryle, Macarthur & Maclaren. My question is do I need to be on the internet to install my books like Logos? Be careful, what is currently available in E4 ( Lloyd Jones, J.C. Ryle, Macarthur & Maclaren) is only compatible with Quickverse and STEP. It cannot be used in Logos. Joe Miller:E4 no longer has the rights to sell Logos books. Ted
Gerard Seldon: How does your e4 disc work? I want to purchase some, in particular Lloyd Jones, J.C. Ryle, Macarthur & Maclaren. My question is do I need to be on the internet to install my books like Logos?
How does your e4 disc work? I want to purchase some, in particular Lloyd Jones, J.C. Ryle, Macarthur & Maclaren. My question is do I need to be on the internet to install my books like Logos?
Be careful, what is currently available in E4 ( Lloyd Jones, J.C. Ryle, Macarthur & Maclaren) is only compatible with Quickverse and STEP. It cannot be used in Logos.
Joe Miller:E4 no longer has the rights to sell Logos books.
Ted
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I also have a large library of software that I've gathered from them over the years (http://freebiblesoftware.net/). But I'm worried. A family run non-profit? What is their oversight? Who's the board? Are they submitted to a local congregation?
Concerns:
1. They NEVER respond to email.
2. I received a defective disk from them, and several months after complaining I received a poorly worded and gramatically deficient email saying they would replace it. The replacement never came. The email appeared to come from an overseas writer and the email address wasn't E4.
3. Their relationship (E4) with the Quick Verse (QV) people is questionable and their web site doesn't remark about that relationship and its legality. When I buy QV software and try to incorporate the E4 software, it won't work and the QV folks say they have no relationship with E4.
In summary, I'm quite concerned about the legality and morality of this "ministry." Is it just another "loose cannon" in the Evangelical world? Until they become more transparent, I'm going to keep writing about them and looking for answers. If they are believers, then why no response to email inquiries in regard to software, operations, etc?
Blessings.
jc
I would imagine there exists a step to pdf/someotherfiletype that can then be made into a logos book. I will see what I can find, I too had/have some of their products. Seems like there was a thread on here about how they were one of the publishers whose final product (at least in the old days) was lacking quality... Lots of typos and that sort of thing.
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I'm curious if I'm talking to the right group. I'm using E4 to refer to a Quick Verse group and they call themselves E4. Is that the same thing to which this forum is referring?
John Castle: I'm curious if I'm talking to the right group. I'm using E4 to refer to a Quick Verse group and they call themselves E4. Is that the same thing to which this forum is referring? jc
It is, but you're writing in a really old thread here. E4 used to publish via Logos Bible Software a long time ago, but have since stopped. There may be some around who might know more about the group, but since it's not directly related to anything current in Logos, you might have a hard time finding any answers to your questions.
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As I recall, Logos had a philosophy of a shared software in its first marketing tactic, whereby, it had attracted many independent content developers, including E4. When Logos decided to change its policy of restricting its shared software, E4 had changed its software to a Quick Verse software, including QV version 11.
I support E4's ministry by purchasing its products, and enjoy its free promotions. There are many missionaries with a severely limited budget, but E4 provides any of them a free bible software with massive contents.
I am not aware of Logos' mission commitment, but it would not hurt to support "a family run non-profit" by purchasing their contents, which I find equal to Logos' products for which I paid hefty dollars relative to E4's.
Enjoy your "large volume," as I would continue to enjoy them. If only I can incorporate all my E4 collections under Logos program, as I did before, I would not have to use "shift alt" and "alt c" in my study.
I have their software as well. However, looking at the site, it does not look like it has been updated since 2013. I would wonder if they are still viable.
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Philippians 2:3 Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves.
Paul Golder: Was the original E4 Bible software, in Libronix format, free? I was just wondering if there were any license restrictions on sharing it. Thanks E4 had monthly free CDs that were used with Quick Verse Bible Software.
E4 had monthly free CDs that were used with Quick Verse Bible Software.
John Castle: Concerns: 3. Their relationship (E4) with the Quick Verse (QV) people is questionable and their web site doesn't remark about that relationship and its legality. When I buy QV software and try to incorporate the E4 software, it won't work and the QV folks say they have no relationship with E4.
QV is now part of LifeWay, B&H, and WORDsearch.
http://www.bhpublishinggroup.com/press-release/lifeway-acquires-wordsearch-and-quickverse
Dale Heath
The E4 logos books are for logos 2 and 3. Logos 3 had some problems with Windows 7 and more with Windows 10. I think these relate to updates to internet explorer. As stated above QV has been taken over Lifeway. Wordsearch has now transferred to the Cross format. E4 has more recently released some books on Kindle. The latest being March 2018. The E4 website http://www.freebiblesoftware.com is not currently accessible.
David
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