Fastest way to get Scripture into a word processor?

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Jim Lowe | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Nov 20 2009 2:04 PM

I would like to know how other users import text i.e., Scriptures or quotes into their sermon documents efficiently.

Over the past 10 years I have created my sermons in WordPerfect and utilize a macro in Logos 2 through Libronix that pulls the Scripture automatically into my WordPerfect document. I typed a Scripture and then execute a macro that automatically puts the Scripture in CBV and copies it into my document. This is an extremely fast way of getting the complete Scripture into my sermon. In this way when I am teaching I do not have to flip pages in the Bible to the text.

Unfortunately, the macro does not work with Microsoft Word, and if I should choose to use it, I do not know of any other efficient way of copying the Scripture into the document other than going out of my document to CBV to type the text in. This seems like an awful waste of time.

Once again how does everybody else do it?

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Chuck P. | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 20 2009 2:28 PM

When I develop Sunday School lessons, I highlight what I want to copy, do a crtl-C to copy and then do a ctrl_V and paste it into my MS Word document.

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Jim Lowe | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 20 2009 4:00 PM

That's the process I find time-consuming. Using CBV you can input the Scripture and it will copy automatically a Word Document. However, the CBV only works for Microsoft products. Certainly, there's got to be a better way!

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 20 2009 4:17 PM

JimLowe:

That's the process I find time-consuming. Using CBV you can input the Scripture and it will copy automatically a Word Document. However, the CBV only works for Microsoft products. Certainly, there's got to be a better way!

Jim, I'm not sure if you're asking how to do this more efficiently in Word, or how to do this in WordPerfect.

I'm a die-hard WP user and here's what I do:

For one or two verse insertions I use the CBV in Logos4, but I only copy. I switch to WP and Paste Unformatted (I assigned that function to ALT-v in keyboard settings).

For multiple verses, I fire up L3 and use the macros Dale Durnell put together a while back. In fact I did that today, for a study on the word 'truth' I was doing for a sermons series on the armor of God.

We are expecting that the CBV will eventually handle multiple, non-contiguous verses. We're also hoping that Logos will open up the API on this part of the program enough to let us address the CBV via a WP macro (or VBA).

If you're asking how to do this in Word, you'll have to wait for someone who uses Word to answer your question.

 Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

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Jim Lowe | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 20 2009 4:39 PM

You are referring to exactly the same method I use with libronix. I too am a die hard WordPerfect user. Dale's macros have been a blessing to me throughout the years. However, it doesn't appear that they will work with Logos 4, nor have I been able to get the macro to work in Windows 7.

I was just wondering if anyone else had come up with a way as slick as Dale's. having to switch applications to cut and paste, or even go to CBV seems a very time-consuming solution.

I pray somebody else has a better way!

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 20 2009 4:44 PM

JimLowe:

You are referring to exactly the same method I use with libronix. I too am a die hard WordPerfect user. Dale's macros have been a blessing to me throughout the years. However, it doesn't appear that they will work with Logos 4, nor have I been able to get the macro to work in Windows 7.

I was just wondering if anyone else had come up with a way as slick as Dale's. having to switch applications to cut and paste, or even go to CBV seems a very time-consuming solution.

Not yet. It's a bit easier with two monitors, but nothing in L4 is quite as nice as what worked with Libronix. At least not yet.

But you can still use Libronix with L4 installed. I'm using Libronix on Windows7 and WordPerfect X4. Dale's macros worked beautifully today for me.

JimLowe:
I pray somebody else has a better way!

Might be better to pray that we can have the opportunity to make better way. Currently there's no known way to address Logos4 from a macro or through VBA to get Bible text. We hope this functionality gets released in the future.

For now, I just open L3 about once a week or so, and do my copy/paste stuff, a few other things, maybe, and I'm good to go. Oh, you don't even have to close L4 to open L3. They can run simultaneously.

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BillS | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 20 2009 4:46 PM

JimLowe:
Once again how does everybody else do it?

Hi Jim,

Microsoft Office already had Smart Tags--automatic recognition of names, places, etc. For Libronix (L3), Logos wrote a Smart Tag for use inside Microsoft Word that automatically recognizes Scripture references & gives a right click. We're still waiting for Smart Tags to make it into L4. If you have a Windos machine & L3, search www.logos.com for Smart Tags & follow the installation instructions... Not sure if they work in Macworld. It's just one of those cooler PC apps. Wink

Does that help?

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Jim Lowe | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 20 2009 9:02 PM

I am glad to know the macro works in Windows 7. I got some type of error. I am going to call Corel   tomorrow and even if it cost I've got to make it work. It doesn't seem like they are too many different ways to make this process easier. I really think this would be a nice added touch for Logos 4 to make the transfer easier for all of us.

Not sure if the Smart Tags will work for Wordperfect. Anybody know??

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 21 2009 4:45 AM

I made a macro to do what you are asking...one click and it opens cbv, copies the passage, opens your word processor, and pastes the result....

 

I used macro maker or something like that due to the fact that I cannot program!

It took me about 2 hrs to figure out how to do it....all in all...it was simple.

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 21 2009 8:17 AM

JimLowe:

I am glad to know the macro works in Windows 7. I got some type of error. I am going to call Corel   tomorrow and even if it cost I've got to make it work. It doesn't seem like they are too many different ways to make this process easier. I really think this would be a nice added touch for Logos 4 to make the transfer easier for all of us.

Not sure if the Smart Tags will work for Wordperfect. Anybody know??

Smart Tags don't work for WordPerfect. They are specifically an MS Word feature.

If you can't get any macros to work in Win7, call Corel. For Dale's macros to work make sure you have L3 open and the CBV appears in the system tray. You must use the CBV at least once for the macros to work (remember?).

You may need to upgrade to the latest version of WP to work in Win7. Also, and unrelated to the macro issue, I've found that I have to turn off the enhanced file dialogs for WP to work properly in Win7, at least for the 64bit version (Tools>Settings>File settings> Use enhanced file dialogs).

 

 Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

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Jim Lowe | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 21 2009 11:36 AM

Richard and Robert, thanks for this information. It is this type of thing I would never think about. I kept getting an error in the macro in Windows 7 64-bit version. I can't wait to try this out on my laptop. I'm glad also to know about macro maker.

I still would like to know what other users do because otherwise if I can't get this macro to work or  create a new one, I'm afraid I will have to just learn how to cut and paste.

Thanks again!

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Debbie Howard | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 31 2011 9:20 AM

Libronix had a feature that placed a link right on the tools panel in word. Any time you wanted Biblical text in a word document you hit that link entered the passage i.e. Jer 30 (would retrieve entire chapter or Jer 30: 4-6 would bring jsut those verses.

I agree with the other poster that it's a time waster for this feature to have been omitted from the UPDATED version which we all had to re-purchase. To find that such convenience in an earlier version was omitted is a shame. It makes me want to ask for my money back.

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 31 2011 9:40 AM

Debbie Howard:

Libronix had a feature that placed a link right on the tools panel in word. Any time you wanted Biblical text in a word document you hit that link entered the passage i.e. Jer 30 (would retrieve entire chapter or Jer 30: 4-6 would bring jsut those verses.

I agree with the other poster that it's a time waster for this feature to have been omitted from the UPDATED version which we all had to re-purchase. To find that such convenience in an earlier version was omitted is a shame. It makes me want to ask for my money back.

Debbie, I don't use MSWord, and so don't even know what you're describing, though I haven't heard this specific complaint before.

However, if you ask for help (start a new thread) on how to do what you're wanting in Word, another Word user may be able to point you in the right direction. This thread is quite old, and the Smart Tags feature for Word is implemented again. So it's possible that your issue has been solved, and it's just a matter of knowing how to implement it for your version of Word.

To implement Smart Tags in Logos4 in your version of MS Word, check out this Logos page: http://www.logos.com/articleviewer/530

 Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

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Jim Lowe | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 31 2011 10:34 AM

Glad to see some discussion of this issue. I currently run both Libronix and Logos 4. When I want to import a scripture, or several from different points in the bible, I have it placed in the CBV in Libronix that transfers it into either Word Processor (Word or WordPerfect). This is a rapid transfer and allows me to stay focused on my thoughts and whatever the Holy Spirit says versus taking the time to focus on highlighting, copy, paste, or paste special or whateverin necessary to get the document formatted properly. Ofter I spend more time in Libronix than Logos 4 because I still know it better. When there is a similar feature in Logos I will use it as my main study program. 

If anybody has any better ideas, still waiting.

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Bob Schlessman | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 31 2011 10:44 AM

Richard DeRuiter:

To implement Smart Tags in Logos4 in your version of MS Word, check out this Logos page: http://www.logos.com/articleviewer/530

I use MS Word 2003 and the Smart Tag feature works very well. The link RIchard provided is the one I followed several months ago to set it up. It's quick and easy.

Blessings,

Bob

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 31 2011 12:11 PM

Bob Schlessman:

Richard DeRuiter:

To implement Smart Tags in Logos4 in your version of MS Word, check out this Logos page: http://www.logos.com/articleviewer/530

 

I use MS Word 2003 and the Smart Tag feature works very well. The link RIchard provided is the one I followed several months ago to set it up. It's quick and easy.

Blessings,

Bob

I agree Bob, I run Word 2010 and Smart Tags are by far the easiest way I have found to include scripture in a document..

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Joel Madasu | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 31 2011 2:00 PM

Will this "Smart Tag" work on Office 2008 on Mac? Or is this just for "windows"?

Thanks!

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 31 2011 2:44 PM

Joel Madasu:

Will this "Smart Tag" work on Office 2008 on Mac? Or is this just for "windows"?

Thanks!

I am not sure about the Mac application; but I do not think that has been implemented yet. One of the Mac guys can confirm or correct that assumption.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 31 2011 5:36 PM

Joel Madasu:
Will this "Smart Tag" work on Office 2008 on Mac? Or is this just for "windows"?

The Help file for Word 2008 does not know "Smart Tags". Therefore, I assume that this is just one more way in which Mac Office is a crippled version of the Windows version.

Copy Bible Verse (CBV) to Word 2008 from L4 Mac does work very well. Be aware that Word for Mac can not handle Hebrew text, and from reading their forums there seems to be no plans to ever provide this capability in MS Office for Mac. If you need to do Hebrew text on a Mac, you probably need Mellel.

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 1 2011 7:40 AM

I made a "Copy" icon for my L4 desktop.  I just highlight the text, hit the "copy" icon, and paste into my wordprocessor.  I use Microsoft Word 2007.  I like things quick and simple.  I want the text to go exactly where I want it in my document.  Seems to work for me.

"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley

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