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David Wells | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Sep 6 2012 12:42 PM

I guess I'm not sure if I need all these separate apps on my ipad. The main question I have is can they share offline resources or do I need to download the same resources for each separate app?  (Can this be a future feature if not?)

If they are redundant, can most everything can be accomplished in Logos so that I can focus on learning that app's functionality instead of both Logos and Faithlife? 

I understand there are some advantages to the Faithlife groups and Vyrso's function as a  Kindle-like reader.

What about Biblia.com? how much of that is similar to Logos on my ipad?

Thanks,

David

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 6 2012 12:58 PM

David - Welcome to the forums… or did you post count get reset? 

David Wells:
I guess I'm not sure if I need all these separate apps on my ipad. The main question I have is can they share offline resources or do I need to download the same resources for each separate app?  (Can this be a future feature if not?)

No, they cannot share resources. Apple has a very strict policy about apps being "sandboxed." Ultimately this is for the end users protection from viruses and unwanted use of data, but in this case in means that the three apps cannot share data with one another.

David Wells:
If they are redundant, can most everything can be accomplished in Logos so that I can focus on learning that app's functionality instead of both Logos and Faithlife? 

Of the three apps, the Vyrso app is the one with the least advantages. It is really just a stripped down version of the other two. The faithlife app automatically downloads the faithlife resources. If you are not using those resources, the only real advantage of that app is the ability to access the faithlife community pages from within the app itself. If I had to choose only one app, it would be the Logos app. Actually, since I had to do a complete wipe of my device, that is exactly what I have chosen.

David Wells:
What about Biblia.com? how much of that is similar to Logos on my ipad?

Biblia.com is a web based access portal to your mobile enabled resources. There isn't really a good reason to visit the site on your mobile device that I know of.

 

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GregW | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 7 2012 12:31 AM

Hi David - I endorse what Alabama has said.  The only thing I would add is that I use Vyrso and Logos on my iPad.  I use Logos for my Reading Plans, Bible stuff, notes and so on, but keep Vyrso for any books I am reading through so that the book conveniently opens to the last place I was reading it., and is already loaded when I open the app.  I don't use Faithlife at all. 


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David Wells | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 7 2012 8:49 AM

Thank you for the input. 

I see the value in the Vyrso app fro reading. I liked the concept of the Faithlife apps and forums/groups but with the money already invested in logos, I'm less likely to sign a subscription or recommend that my church or community group utilize it now with the potential of getting hooked into a future fee.

If Logos app on Ipad handles my needs then I'm going to press into learning its strengths and functions. I haven't been able to adjust my Bible reading plan from the Ipad yet. 

Currently I'm downloading books which I desire to have offline - too bad I can't access those from Vryso as well. I will just keep the Vryso cache from growing too large. I went ahead and removed Faithlife from the Ipad.

Looking forward to enjoying this more. Thanks for the help. Any other pointers welcome. The FAQ was too cumbersome to go through for long.

David

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Craig L. Manning | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 24 2012 4:48 PM

I guess the inability to share resources only applies to Apple products.  I use all three and they share the same resources.

I use Logos for in-depth Bible Study, Vyrso of reading through any book that I have in my library, and Faithlife for quick study.  Haven't made use of the community aspects of it as of yet, but would love to check that feature out sometime soon.

Craig

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 24 2012 5:03 PM

Craig L. Manning:
I guess the inability to share resources only applies to Apple products.  I use all three and they share the same resources.

Craig - I think you have misunderstood. The three apps can all be associated with the same user account, and hence "share the same resources," but they do not share the same downloaded resources. If you download a book to your Logos app, it will not appear in the other two apps when you are offline unless you have downloaded it to those apps as well. That is the sense in which we say that the apps do not share resources.

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PoL | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 12 2015 3:19 AM

Now, that answers my question.

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Tim Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 13 2015 7:41 AM

David Wells:

I guess I'm not sure if I need all these separate apps on my ipad.

This may or may not be applicable to you, but one use I've found for the multiple apps is being able to be logged into more than one user account at the same time. Faithlife's apps don't let you log out of your Faithlife account. So if you want to switch from one account to another, you have to delete the app and reinstall it, which is a pain, especially if you want to be back and forth between more than one account. With multiple apps, you can be logged in as one user in one app and another user in a different app.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 13 2015 10:35 AM

Why would a user have more than one account?

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Jenny Raymond | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 13 2015 11:27 AM

A shared device would be one good instance. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 13 2015 11:35 AM

Welcome. Smile

Jenny Raymond:

A shared device would be one good instance. 

Yes... but shared with whom? A husband and wife can use the same account if they so choose. 

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 13 2015 12:54 PM

Alabama, let's not forget the 6 pastors, Catholic father, and jewish rabbi who have all the apps loaded but each assigned to each other's account (the rabbi has Noet of course). This allows the Sedona religious team a super-sized library sharing of each others books (and careful but considerate ignoring of the Buddhist guy).

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 13 2015 1:33 PM

yes, let's not forget. Smile

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Tim Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 17 2015 10:44 AM

alabama24:

Why would a user have more than one account?

A spouse can choose to share accounts, but they may choose to have their own account too, to keep highlighting separate. This is just one sample use, the spouse could have their login on one app and their spouse's on the other app to have the best of both worlds. :)

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Bruce Nelson | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 4 2015 8:05 PM

Thank you for the discussion,  I was wondering which app to use on the ultracheap tablet I just purchased.  Considering that my primary purpose for the device was as an e-reader for books I have acquired through Logos/Vyrso/Noet, not for bible study or lesson prep, it would seem that the Vyrso app would be the best for just reading.

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Bill Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 4 2015 8:59 PM

GregW:

I use Logos for my Reading Plans, Bible stuff, notes and so on, but keep Vyrso for any books I am reading through so that the book conveniently opens to the last place I was reading it., and is already loaded when I open the app.

Doesn't the Logos app open the current book you're reading to the place you left off? It does for me.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 4 2015 9:24 PM

Bill Anderson:

GregW:

I use Logos for my Reading Plans, Bible stuff, notes and so on, but keep Vyrso for any books I am reading through so that the book conveniently opens to the last place I was reading it., and is already loaded when I open the app.

Doesn't the Logos app open the current book you're reading to the place you left off? It does for me.

This thread is very old. Stick out tongue

I <think> what he was saying is this: he uses (at least 3 years ago he used) the Vyrso app to read a single book "cover to cover." If a resource is left OPEN, it stays put (as you describe.) If, however, you close the resource, it will open to the place last used across all devices. If your desire, for example, is to read the bible from Genesis to Revelation, you would keep losing your place.

This behavior is true for both apps... You would have to keep the book open in Vyrso to make sure it stayed put. Make sense?

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GregW | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 5 2015 5:16 AM

alabama24:
I <think> what he was saying is this: he uses (at least 3 years ago he used) the Vyrso app to read a single book "cover to cover."

At the risk of reviving a very old thread, yes, Alabama, that's what I meant.


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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 5 2015 12:11 PM

Logos and VERBUM and Faithlife are all similar but some do have other features... at one time FL had more social media sharing points, now I think they are all very similar. I ironically have all 4 on my iPAD... Vyrso for ebooks i am reading... Verbum for my day to day Bible study, Loogs because I downloaded to it my Lutheran specific resources so when I open it it is my Lutheran Study Bible.... and Faithlife installed with a test account that has only the free faithlife stuff and a couple other freebees to quickly be able to show someone what they can have access to free of charge (admittedly it doesn;t happen often but it takes up very little space).

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Dewayne Davis | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 8 2015 4:55 AM

I use vyrso for reading through books like a kindle. I use Faithlife for daily reading and open Logos beside it for guides and lookups. This is the next best thing to having four panes open side by side. Too bad you can't sync the two apps to follow one another. 

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