Searching for third declension nouns

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Harry Hahne | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Oct 2 2012 11:13 AM

Is there any way to search for occurrences of third declension nouns in the Greek New Testament? I don't believe the declension of nouns is tagged in any of the Greek NT texts. I wonder if any of your search whizes could come up with a clever way to do this?  I was trying to get some samples for teaching Greek and earlier in the course I wanted to avoid them when the students did not know about them. This is certainly not a critical tagging to add to any of the Greek NT texts, but I was just wondering.

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Jeff Saunders | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 16 2012 10:25 PM

Just curious if you were able to find 3rd declension nouns? I'm still wondering how to see declensions at all when I hover over a noun. Any help would be great

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 16 2012 11:04 PM

Jeff Saunders:
I'm still wondering how to see declensions at all

what base package do you own? what resource are you hovering over?

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Jeff Saunders | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 17 2012 10:21 AM

I have the scholars silver package. When I hover over nouns it just says (noun, accusative, singular, masculine) but that is the general layout. I really need to see the declension though such as (1st dec noun, accusative, singular, masculine) Any help would be great.

 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 17 2012 12:52 PM

Sorry, I don't know enough Greek to "beat the system" but one could build a visual filter based on lemmas and assign classes manually much as the visual filters for frequency are built.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 18 2012 8:59 PM

Harry Hahne:
Is there any way to search for occurrences of third declension nouns in the Greek New Testament?

Can slowly use lemma wildcard search, which can be combined with morph search for nouns:

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Mike Hogue | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 22 2013 7:19 AM

Not sure if this helps, but I built a (pretty large) search string using some automation and the site http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Ancient_Greek_third_declension_nouns&oldid=13150043

If you cut and paste the contents of the word doc into a morph search, it should pull all of the 3rd declension nouns mentioned on the site--from which a visual filter could be made for highlighting.

5100.Logos Bible 3rd Declension Noun Search.docx

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 22 2013 10:50 AM

Nice find

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George Gunn | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 6 2015 11:38 PM

Wow! This is amazing. Just what I needed for my class tomorrow morning! Thank you!!

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 11 2015 3:40 PM

I thought I'd find out about "third declension":-

The third declension contains all nouns which do not belong to the first or second declension.
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The stems of third declension nouns end (1) in a consonant, (2) in a vowel,

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The best way to learn 3rd declension nouns is to learn the Nom. Sing., Gen. Sing., and gender all at once.

Nunn, H. P. V. (1923). The elements of New Testament Greek (p. 60). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.

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Harry Hahne | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 16 2015 11:17 PM

Mike Hogue:

Not sure if this helps, but I built a (pretty large) search string using some automation and the site http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Ancient_Greek_third_declension_nouns&oldid=13150043

If you cut and paste the contents of the word doc into a morph search, it should pull all of the 3rd declension nouns mentioned on the site--from which a visual filter could be made for highlighting.

Wow! That is quite a brute force method, but it does the job.

At least we know that the limit on a search string is huge!

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Mike Tourangeau | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 2 2015 10:00 PM

Mike Hogue:

Not sure if this helps, but I built a (pretty large) search string using some automation and the site http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Ancient_Greek_third_declension_nouns&oldid=13150043

If you cut and paste the contents of the word doc into a morph search, it should pull all of the 3rd declension nouns mentioned on the site--from which a visual filter could be made for highlighting.

5100.Logos Bible 3rd Declension Noun Search.docx

This is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Thank you! I pasted into a visual filter and can see third declension to familiarize myself. Thank you!

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