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Aaron Stevens | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Aug 11 2009 9:17 PM

What is Behemoth??

Is it a dinosaur, or is it as some commentaries suggest and Elephant or a hippo etc....

Just like to hear peoples thoughts.

Personally I believe that it is a dinosaur like a Diplodocus, or something similar

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 11 2009 9:35 PM

It has to be really big beast if it doesn't fit into just one post and you had to start 2 forums for it... Smile

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Aaron Stevens | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 11 2009 9:41 PM

haha yeah. i don't know why but i clicked the post button and it made 2.

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John McComb | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 11 2009 9:59 PM

 

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Aaron Stevens | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 11 2009 10:13 PM

haha, that's mean but i like it. ;-P

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John McComb | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 11 2009 10:24 PM

 

AaronStevens:

haha, that's mean but i like it. ;-P

Yeah, that's me all right. Mean to the core.

I really struggle with the "Love thy neighbor" part a lot. Especially when it comes to celebrities.

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 12 2009 3:29 AM

AaronStevens:

What is Behemoth??

Is it a dinosaur, or is it as some commentaries suggest and Elephant or a hippo etc....

Just like to hear peoples thoughts.

Personally I believe that it is a dinosaur like a Diplodocus, or something similar

I believe it is dinosaur meant, because of the large tail and his strength is in his belly muscles. You can find an interesting explanation here.

Bohuslav

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 12 2009 5:30 AM

John,

I just shot coffee out of my nose...

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 12 2009 7:14 AM

AaronStevens:

What is Behemoth??

Is it a dinosaur, or is it as some commentaries suggest and Elephant or a hippo etc....

Just like to hear peoples thoughts.

Personally I believe that it is a dinosaur like a Diplodocus, or something similar

While it has been supposed by some that "behemoth" might represent some creature such as the crocodile or hippopotamos, it seems rather to be used for the ancient chaos monster in some of the ancient Near Eastern creation myths.  It is also described as a serpent (as in the Garden).  It would not be possible for it to be some extinct creature such as the dinosaur since the dinosaur was long extinct before man ever appeared on earth.

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 12 2009 7:53 AM

George Somsel:
It would not be possible for it to be some extinct creature such as the dinosaur since the dinosaur was long extinct before man ever appeared on earth.

Many would disagree. Extinction and contemporaneous existence with man are not mutually exclusive. 
Just ask the Dodo bird. (Oh yeah, he's recently extinct.)

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 12 2009 7:58 AM

George Somsel:
  It would not be possible for it to be some extinct creature such as the dinosaur since the dinosaur was long extinct before man ever appeared on earth.

I won't be agreeing with you on this one George.  But that's to be expected. 

I'm firmly in the, "Probably some kind of dinosaur" camp here.  Whatever it is, I do want to shoot down Elephants and hippos in any case.  They most certainly do not have tails that swing like cedars.  Whatever it is, it had a massive tail.  Croc?  I don't think so, their tails are used for swimming or "whipping" but they don't generally sway in a stately manner. 

Moreover I find it difficult for God to say, "Hey look at this mythic creature that people give my glory to!"  Nope - for that reason I'll jettison Tiamat or whatever as an explanation.  I believe Behemoth to be a real beast.  IMHO Probably Saurian.

 

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 12 2009 8:18 AM

AaronStevens:

What is Behemoth??

Is it a dinosaur, or is it as some commentaries suggest and Elephant or a hippo etc....

Just like to hear peoples thoughts.

Personally I believe that it is a dinosaur like a Diplodocus, or something similar

Job 40:15  Behemoth's tail like a cedar  -- seen an elephant or hippo tail lately?

It had to be a different creature. After all God said only it's Maker could subdue it and we have zoos full of  crocodiles, hippos and elephants.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 12 2009 9:26 AM

Matthew C Jones:
Many would disagree. Extinction and contemporaneous existence with man are not mutually exclusive. 
Just ask the Dodo bird. (Oh yeah, he's recently extinct.)

Dinosaurs weren't merely extinct; they had been extinct for a long period.  The Dodo is an extinction which occurred in historical times.

Matthew C Jones:
Some of us take a literal road more often than others. Behemoth, unicorns, dragons and even harps in heaven can possibly be literal descriptions.Angel Music Star

And perhaps von Daniken was correct that ancient astronauts really did construct the pyramids.  All you need to do is believe it to be so and POOF ! , it's real.

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 12 2009 9:39 AM

George Somsel:
And perhaps von Daniken was correct that ancient astronauts really did construct the pyramids.  All you need to do is believe it to be so and POOF ! , it's real.

Carbon14 dating, Mount St. Helens, Paluxy River footprints....... 

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Sam Shaw | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 12 2009 1:07 PM

According to drdino.com, it's possible that Dinosaurs and and man co-existed before the Great Flood, since God didn't allow any of His creations to be carnivores until Genesis 9:3.

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Tim Lord | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 12 2009 2:48 PM

For another possibility, how about similar to the Brachiosauraus?  The New Answers Book states:  "Not long after the Flood, God was showing a man called Job how great He was as Creator, by reminding Job of the largest land animal He had made: 'Look now at the behemoth, which I made along with you; he eats grass like an ox. See now, his strength is in his hips, and his power is in his stomach muscles. He moves his tail like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are tightly knit. His bones are like beams of bronze, his ribs like bars of iron. He is the first of the ways of God; only He who made him can bring near His sword' (Job 40:15–19).  The phrase 'first of the ways of God' suggests this was the largest land animal God had made. So what kind of animal was 'behemoth'?  Bible translators, not being sure what this beast was, often transliterated the Hebrew, and thus the word behemoth (e.g., KJV, NKJV, NASB, NIV). However, in many Bible commentaries and Bible footnotes, 'behemoth' is said to be 'possibly the hippopotamus or elephant.' Some Bible versions actually translate 'behemoth' this way. Besides the fact that the elephant and hippo were not the largest land animals God made (some of the dinosaurs far eclipsed these), this description does not make sense, since the tail of behemoth is compared to the large cedar tree (verse 17).  Now an elephant’s tiny tail (or a hippo’s tail that looks like a flap of skin) is quite unlike a cedar tree. Clearly, the elephant and the hippo could not possibly be 'behemoth.' No living creature comes close to this description. However, behemoth is very much like Brachiosaurus, one of the large dinosaurs."

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Aaron Stevens | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 13 2009 9:56 PM

George Somsel:

AaronStevens:

What is Behemoth??

Is it a dinosaur, or is it as some commentaries suggest and Elephant or a hippo etc....

Just like to hear peoples thoughts.

Personally I believe that it is a dinosaur like a Diplodocus, or something similar

While it has been supposed by some that "behemoth" might represent some creature such as the crocodile or hippopotamos, it seems rather to be used for the ancient chaos monster in some of the ancient Near Eastern creation myths.  It is also described as a serpent (as in the Garden).  It would not be possible for it to be some extinct creature such as the dinosaur since the dinosaur was long extinct before man ever appeared on earth.

 

It is possible for it to be an extinct animal, Because in Genesis chapter 1 is when God created everything, God created all the land animals and Man on day 6, now is a dinosaur a land animal?? Of course it is, so both man and dinosaurs co-existed. It would not be some Mythical creature either because God was describing it to Job as if Job himself knew what the animal looked like. and Behemoth could be described as a hippo or elephant. Have a look at its tail, it does not sway like a cedar tree!! The only option is some sort of dinosaur like a brachiosaurus, or similar.

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Aaron Stevens | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 13 2009 10:01 PM

Matthew C Jones:

AaronStevens:

What is Behemoth??

Is it a dinosaur, or is it as some commentaries suggest and Elephant or a hippo etc....

Just like to hear peoples thoughts.

Personally I believe that it is a dinosaur like a Diplodocus, or something similar

Job 40:15  Behemoth's tail like a cedar  -- seen an elephant or hippo tail lately?

It had to be a different creature. After all God said only it's Maker could subdue it and we have zoos full of  crocodiles, hippos and elephants.

Definitely. I whole heartedly agree

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Aaron Stevens | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 13 2009 10:03 PM

George Somsel:

Matthew C Jones:
Many would disagree. Extinction and contemporaneous existence with man are not mutually exclusive. 
Just ask the Dodo bird. (Oh yeah, he's recently extinct.)

Dinosaurs weren't merely extinct; they had been extinct for a long period.  The Dodo is an extinction which occurred in historical times.

Matthew C Jones:
Some of us take a literal road more often than others. Behemoth, unicorns, dragons and even harps in heaven can possibly be literal descriptions.Angel Music Star

And perhaps von Daniken was correct that ancient astronauts really did construct the pyramids.  All you need to do is believe it to be so and POOF ! , it's real.

So George does that mean you do not believe in a literal 6 days creation???

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 13 2009 10:09 PM

AaronStevens:
in Genesis chapter 1 is when God created everything, God created all the land animals and Man on day 6, now is a dinosaur a land animal?? Of course it is, so both man and dinosaurs co-existed

 

I totally agree with you Aaron.

But not everybody takes the six day creation as 6 literal 24 hour periods.  Some cling to the "Gap theory" believing there were possibly millions of years between a failed original creation/evolution and the Garden of Eden narrative. Who knows, they may even believe God created Adam as a newborn baby and he had to grow up through all stages of child development. (Evolving into a mature man.....Wink)

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