Logos 5 installer link

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Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 1 2012 1:48 PM

Paul Golder:
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Hopefully you intend this as a joke, that's certainly the way I intended what I wrote. I am impatient to get Logos 5 but as the parable of the workers says we got what was agreed on (in other words, we own what we have paid for) it is the owner's prerogative to do with his property what he likes...

Having said that, HOW LONG IS THIS GOING TO TAKE????Super Angry

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Paul Golder | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 1 2012 1:52 PM

It was a joke. If you look at some of my older posts you'll find that I am a firm believer in that a company can charge any price they want for the products they produce.

That being said, this indeed is taking entirely too long!

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 1 2012 4:03 PM

Paul – it is my understanding that the engine will not be made available (at first) to those who have not upgraded. I assume that it will be made available at some point after the "rollout."

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 1 2012 5:36 PM

Randy W. Sims (Shayne):

Rosie Perera:

Paul Golder:

Anyone have the link for the Logos 5 installer?

How have those who have upgraded already been able to install it?

The link they send in the email doesn't work. L4 picks up the update automatically and installs it like any other update. I don't suppose it would be ethical to post the installer? Probably not. Sad There are definitely a lot of folks here who should definitely be given priority to the engine update regardless of whether they opt for a paid upgrade. Seems unfair to hold it back.

I still haven't been able to get on the website yet, but there is probably no point in me getting the paid upgrade. I already have Portfolio plus a lot more. I probably all the new resources they have added to it, so I might have to wait until the free engine is available. Phooey! That's some gratitude for spending over $70,000 on Logos resources over the years.

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Nathaniel&Kelsey Stamper | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 1 2012 5:45 PM

I just called about the upgrade. I own portfolio and was shocked to hear that I have to spend at least half a grand to upgrade (or $2,000 to have my portfolio functioning in 5). My wife and I are both students so I doubt this will be high on our list of purchases. 

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Wild Eagle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 1 2012 6:02 PM

Nathaniel Stamper:

I just called about the upgrade. I own portfolio and was shocked to hear that I have to spend at least half a grand to upgrade (or $2,000 to have my portfolio functioning in 5). My wife and I are both students so I doubt this will be high on our list of purchases. 

I owned Platinum Collection and upgraded to Gold which included all features. This way is so much cheaper, and still have all the books from previous package. Otherwise, you have to wait until minimal cross grade would be available

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Ergatees | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 1 2012 6:24 PM

Hey, this lady would make a great next door neighbor. Could I please borrow an hour with your version of Logos, Ma'am?

I'm not upgrading, I can't afford to, but don't need to. I'll stick with my gold. The market price of gold is going up every day.

At least it sounds good.... Cool  Anyhow, I have a few items still on order: sheesh, does take them time. I wonder what they have been doing? Ha!

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 1 2012 6:31 PM

I've tried a lot of variants of the two L4 Mac links, but can't find the Mac link for 5.

These two were both for the Mac install, but doing the normal mods don't result in anything. :(

http://www.logos.com/logos4mac
http://downloads.logos.com/LBS4/LBS4MacInstaller/Logos4Mac.dmg

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 1 2012 6:43 PM

Slava Novik:

Nathaniel Stamper:

I just called about the upgrade. I own portfolio and was shocked to hear that I have to spend at least half a grand to upgrade (or $2,000 to have my portfolio functioning in 5). My wife and I are both students so I doubt this will be high on our list of purchases. 

I owned Platinum Collection and upgraded to Gold which included all features. This way is so much cheaper, and still have all the books from previous package. Otherwise, you have to wait until minimal cross grade would be available

Good advise, Slava. It would be nice if Logos would give a hint about the cost of the L5 crossgrade. It might make a decision easier for some. The great changes in the base packages and the upgrade costs are going to be a surprise for many. My upgrade price to stay with Platinum is about what my upgrade price was when L4 came out and I had Gold, so things don't seem that out of line from my perspective.

 

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 1 2012 7:00 PM

Rosie, I sent you a message on faithlife.

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Jacques | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 1 2012 7:03 PM

Rosie. $70,000?

That should be like, illegal or something.

Amazing. You probably have Turretin in ENGLISH!! =)

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So yes, please post the L5 engine link - whoever gets it first.

thanks 

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 1 2012 7:09 PM

Jacques:

So yes, please post the L5 engine link - whoever gets it first.

thanks 

Jacques, even if you get the engine, you will not have the resources that are needed to use the new database, and some parts of the software will be grayed out.

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 1 2012 7:11 PM

Heck with the new databases, I want the faster, cleaner UI! Someone figure out the Mac link!

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Pete Salinas | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 1 2012 7:56 PM

This worked for me.  Thanks.

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Wes Saad | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 1 2012 8:01 PM

David Salazar:
hmm. won't let me install because it says that I need to have permission to access: C:\Logos\Logos\System\EVRPresenter.dll

David,

I've just installed it (just the engine, I've not upgraded) for Win8 without issue. Did it prompt you for administrator access?

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Bob Pritchett | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 1 2012 8:43 PM

Paul Golder:

Anyone have the link for the Logos 5 installer?

The Logos 5 engine is only available as part of upgrades at this point. While we plan to offer it sometime in the future, it is not yet released.

Our promise is that you won't need to buy an upgrade to keep access to your books as operating systems change, and that's still the case. (Logos 4.x still runs, is still available, and was even upgrade recently, and has more updates planned.)

I know that many people -- probably including me! -- have "shorthanded" this promise to "the software is free, you only pay for the books!". And the software is free; you can download it and read all your e-books. And eventually Logos 5 engine will be free, too -- just not yet.

Much of what is cool in Logos 5 is closely integrated with brand new (and very expensive to create/acquire!) data sets and content. We believe that the value of Logos 5 is in the combination of these tools and content, and that users will have the best experience with both the software and content together. (We still need to do some tweaking, in fact, to have Logos 5 elegantly handle the case of certain data sets not being available.)

By focusing on paid upgrades to collections/new-content at launch, we're able to:

- Ensure Logos 5 users have a great experience. (Downloading Logos 5 code-only and realizing that much of the new functionality is dependent on missing data could lead to unhappy users / reviews / less-enthusiasm for upgrading.)

- Recover our investment. Yes, the new code and new content and new bundles, all together, are great reasons to upgrade your content bundle. And people are (and should be!) excited about them -- they're great! And since we only get paid for new content -- even though it's expensive to write code, too -- we intentionally try to create that moment of enthusiasm to generate some sales and pay the bills, so we can be here to serve you in the future.

It's like this is a new movie, and we'd really like you to pay to see it in the theater with a drink and some popcorn -- and the whole family! Yes, you can wait till it's broadcast on TV for free, but that free broadcast doesn't pay the bills. So we'd prefer you don't sneak a camera into the theater and record it for your friends to watch for free. They can watch it for free -- just not this week. :-)

(And if they wait, they'll get the movie, but not the 40' screen, massive sound system, and deliciously unhealthy popcorn... that's why you want to get an upgrade -- it's got all the cool new content that makes it better!)

Thanks!

-- Bob 

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 1 2012 9:04 PM

Bob Pritchett:

Paul Golder:

Anyone have the link for the Logos 5 installer?

The Logos 5 engine is only available as part of upgrades at this point. While we plan to offer it sometime in the future, it is not yet released.

Our promise is that you won't need to buy an upgrade to keep access to your books as operating systems change, and that's still the case. (Logos 4.x still runs, is still available, and was even upgrade recently, and has more updates planned.)

I know that many people -- probably including me! -- have "shorthanded" this promise to "the software is free, you only pay for the books!". And the software is free; you can download it and read all your e-books. And eventually Logos 5 engine will be free, too -- just not yet.

Much of what is cool in Logos 5 is closely integrated with brand new (and very expensive to create/acquire!) data sets and content. We believe that the value of Logos 5 is in the combination of these tools and content, and that users will have the best experience with both the software and content together. (We still need to do some tweaking, in fact, to have Logos 5 elegantly handle the case of certain data sets not being available.)

By focusing on paid upgrades to collections/new-content at launch, we're able to:

- Ensure Logos 5 users have a great experience. (Downloading Logos 5 code-only and realizing that much of the new functionality is dependent on missing data could lead to unhappy users / reviews / less-enthusiasm for upgrading.)

- Recover our investment. Yes, the new code and new content and new bundles, all together, are great reasons to upgrade your content bundle. And people are (and should be!) excited about them -- they're great! And since we only get paid for new content -- even though it's expensive to write code, too -- we intentionally try to create that moment of enthusiasm to generate some sales and pay the bills, so we can be here to serve you in the future.

It's like this is a new movie, and we'd really like you to pay to see it in the theater with a drink and some popcorn -- and the whole family! Yes, you can wait till it's broadcast on TV for free, but that free broadcast doesn't pay the bills. So we'd prefer you don't sneak a camera into the theater and record it for your friends to watch for free. They can watch it for free -- just not this week. :-)

(And if they wait, they'll get the movie, but not the 40' screen, massive sound system, and deliciously unhealthy popcorn... that's why you want to get an upgrade -- it's got all the cool new content that makes it better!)

Thanks!

-- Bob 

Thank you, Bob! Your team is great and treated me VERY fairly on the phone even though I chose not to upgrade at his time. I appreciate the theatre analogy.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 1 2012 10:03 PM

Jacques:

Rosie. $70,000?

That should be like, illegal or something.

It's actually pretty stupid, because I could have gotten a lot of that for less if I'd known about the pre-pub program earlier and weren't so impulsive that I couldn't wait for the awesome Christmas sales, which usually end up having many of the books I've paid nearly full price for at a fraction of the cost.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 1 2012 10:15 PM

Rosie Perera:
It's actually pretty stupid, because I could have gotten a lot of that for less if I'd known about the pre-pub program earlier and weren't so impulsive that I couldn't wait for the awesome Christmas sales, which usually end up having many of the books I've paid nearly full price for at a fraction of the cost.

But Logos loves you for it, Rosie. They really do. Big Smile

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Nathanael King | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 2 2012 12:21 AM

Bob Pritchett:

Our promise is that you won't need to buy an upgrade to keep access to your books as operating systems change, and that's still the case. 

I just wanted to say that I believe this to be a big difference from what was originally promised.  I remember that when I purchased Logos 2 then upgraded to 3, a big deal was made that Logos promised that engine upgrades will always be free.  This was the consistent message from sales reps, from the website, everywhere I looked.  While I don't have them, I believe this may even have been in the EULA or Terms and Conditions.  The message was that engine upgrades were free and would always remain free, and that resources were the only thing purchased.  This is vastly different from saying that older versions of Logos will still be supported so that they run as operating systems change.

If you want to change your policy going forward, that's fine, but for those of us who purchased Logos long ago and have invested money into it, I do not believe it's fair to change this policy.  It leaves those of us who've invested in Logos (with the assumption that we would always be able to use our resources in with the most up-to-date engine) feeling like we're 2nd class.

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