Official: Minimum Crossgrade and free engine download are coming!

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Kolen Cheung | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 16 2012 6:26 AM

Kyle:

Is there still a plan to offer a Minimal Crossgrade that is under $100?  I own Leader's Library now, and I don't really need new books.  I don't mind upgrading to a better package if I get commentaries that I will enjoy (but I just don't know I need), but I'm not interested in Greek language items, etc.  Searching for all references to Timothy including pronouns would be a great feature though!

So I'm wondering if I should wait for the free functionality upgrade, bite the bullet on a Silver to get the new functionality, or get the Minimal Crossgrade at a price $60 higher than we've been discussing here for a while...  thoughts?

 

http://www.logos.com/search?q=logos+5

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 16 2012 7:18 AM

Kyle:
Is there still a plan to offer a Minimal Crossgrade that is under $100?  I own Leader's Library now, and I don't really need new books. ... 

Logos announced in several threads that they didn't make one Minimal Crossgarde (like with L3 => L4 ) but two, the one with everything in it plus some useful resources - dynamically priced to allow the upgraders to Starter or Bronze to add all features in a meaningful way, the other (called "core datasets") for most of the the new functionality/datasets and definitely below the $100: http://www.logos.com/product/28494/logos-5-core-datasets This may be the one you are looking for.

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Steve Maling | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 16 2012 7:31 AM

Thanks, Bob, for enduring the slings and arrows, for managing through the chaos, and for giving us a glimpse of the Company's chaos. May all this settle down a bit so that you can sense the thanksgiving felt by many of us. (For the myriads of you outside the States, next Thursday is our "Thanksgiving Day.)

I'm about to order the Minimal Crossgrade for which I've been waiting less than patiently, but not grumpily (I hope!).

Shalom, shalom

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Wayne | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 16 2012 7:45 AM

Kyle:

Is there still a plan to offer a Minimal Crossgrade that is under $100?  I own Leader's Library now, and I don't really need new books.  I don't mind upgrading to a better package if I get commentaries that I will enjoy (but I just don't know I need), but I'm not interested in Greek language items, etc.  Searching for all references to Timothy including pronouns would be a great feature though!

So I'm wondering if I should wait for the free functionality upgrade, bite the bullet on a Silver to get the new functionality, or get the Minimal Crossgrade at a price $60 higher than we've been discussing here for a while...  thoughts?

Everyone has a different price when they do the crossgrade. My price was about $50 less, but I had L4 Platinum and different other books that I have purchased. Since you had only the Leaders Library yours would be more expensive. Or you can check out the link below to the datasets.

http://www.logos.com/product/28494/logos-5-core-datasets

 

 

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Jesse Barnhart | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 16 2012 8:26 AM

Thanks for the clear explanation Bob. I will be moving from Logos 4 Silver to Logos 5 Silver and then will save to move to the Gold. Keep moving onward and upward.

Jesse

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Kyle Washington | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 16 2012 11:59 AM

OK... this is beginning to make more sense. I've read the other threads too, and it looks like the Starter has more resources available to me, but the MC has the datasets for the new searching functionality.  That interests me more than the new books.  Some of the commentaries would be nice, but I certainly haven't read all the ones I have!  Thanks to all for the links and the explanations.

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Robin Monks | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 16 2012 12:20 PM

Kyle:

OK... this is beginning to make more sense. I've read the other threads too, and it looks like the Starter has more resources available to me, but the MC has the datasets for the new searching functionality.  That interests me more than the new books.  Some of the commentaries would be nice, but I certainly haven't read all the ones I have!  Thanks to all for the links and the explanations.

Don't forget, you /can/ get both. It'll be cheaper for you to get Starter first, then get the Crossgrade to fill in the remaining datasets, since you'll only pay for the resource you don't have and you'll get a better initial discount for upgrading to Starter.

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Naveen Balakrishnan | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 19 2012 3:39 PM

Just wanted y'all to know (I know I'm Southern on both counts from Southern India and living in South Carolina) that I have upgraded to Logos 5 and it is the sweetest thing.  I love the new features of L5 and this is a product incredibly done.  I had a great time to share this with a number of families this past weekend and encouraged them to buy Logos Bible Software if they are serious about family discipleship.  Maybe I should ask to be become a rep for Logos.  Just a thought.

 

In Christ Alone and for His Glory

Naveen

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Geo Philips | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 19 2012 4:06 PM

Hi Naveen,

Great to see another South Indian on Logos, though I am now in Canada, so I am Northern on one count.

 

Blessings in Christ,

Geo

 

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Tony Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 26 2012 7:05 PM

So, now that the dust has settled, wonder when the Free Engine is coming?

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tom | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 27 2012 3:26 AM

Tony Thomas:

So, now that the dust has settled, wonder when the Free Engine is coming?

Logos has said that it will be out sometime during the first quarter of next year.  So those of us who are waiting, we still have around two months to wait (IMHO).

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Mark Twombly | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 9 2013 9:11 AM

Very pleased to install the Logos 5 engine only upgrade for Mac, and already seeing it is a vast improvement and a world of difference from Logos 4, both in terms of layout and speed.

I understand Logos' strategy of making upgrade packages available at first, and I can see how this is very valuable for many, but not all.  I appreciate you guys making the engine only available, as I need access to the resources I have purchased but not necessarily the newer more advanced features.

Blessings,

Mark D. Twombly, Somerset, NJ

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Kaye Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 10 2013 11:28 AM

Bob, thanks for the free Logos 5 engine.  Performance is way better and I got some cool new toys to play with.

I appreciate the improvements you make over time and that you bless your "old" customers with some new ways to study even at times when our finances keep us from supporting the product as much as we'd like to.

Kaye

"But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry."  2 Timothy 4:5 (NASB)

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Samuel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 10 2013 2:20 PM

The free engine for logos 5 looks great! It definitely seems faster! The new layout looks really cool! =]

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Tom | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 10 2013 5:26 PM

Samuel:

The free engine for logos 5 looks great! It definitely seems faster! The new layout looks really cool! =]

Yes

Download the Logos 5 Installer  http://www.logos.com/installation

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Heath Choate | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 11 2013 9:21 PM

Bob:

I know that I am a bit late to this party. I have Logos 4 Leader's Library. I have had it since  it first was available as an alpha on the Mac. My experience was unfortunately less than stellar. I had a lot of issues with crashes and stalls long after the official Gold Master release of L4 on the Mac. So much so that I gave up on it for more than a year and half because I couldn't rely on it during my classes.  

Recently a friend from the forums made me aware of Logos 5 and all the improvements that have been made. So I uninstalled and reinstalled my library with the Logos 5 engine. I must say I am impressed with the difference. It works so well now and the mobile app has come a long way as well. 

Over the last 10 days or so I have been using my L4 Library/L5 engine to do a lot of study and using the mobile app on the iPad when I am work. I am really enjoying. (This is what I was expecting when I bought L4). 

My issue now is that I want to upgrade so I can get things like the timeline, sermon starter, etc. I don't have a need for many more resources. So the minimal crossgrade seems like a win - win for me. However my custom pricing is $155 for the minimal crossgrade? According to your post here it should be under $100 or if there would be 2 crossgrades one for under $100 and one slightly over but I don't see it. 

Also It appears(though I am aware it is not) the starter bundle would include the minimal crossgrade datasets. 

Could you please clarify the pricing from what is listed in this post to what I am seeing? 

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 12 2013 12:36 AM

Hi Heath

Heath Choate:
According to your post here it should be under $100 or if there would be 2 crossgrades one for under $100 and one slightly over but I don't see it. 

In Bob's updated post - http://community.logos.com/forums/p/58259/414636.aspx#414636 - he talked about the higher price being "somewhere over $100, depending on what you already own". if I remember correctly, this ended up being around $155 for most people.

Heath Choate:
Also It appears(though I am aware it is not) the starter bundle would include the minimal crossgrade datasets. 

There is a discussion of this at http://community.logos.com/forums/p/59775/425408.aspx. And the wiki article at http://wiki.logos.com/Upgrade_or_Crossgrade is helpful in explaining what is provided what what option.

Heath Choate:
Could you please clarify the pricing from what is listed in this post to what I am seeing? 

http://blog.logos.com/2012/11/5-ways-to-move-to-logos-5/ is where Logos outlined the different ways of moving to Logos 5

Does this help at all?

Graham

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 12 2013 4:03 AM

Heath Choate:
... According to your post here it should be under $100 or if there would be 2 crossgrades one for under $100 and one slightly over but I don't see it.

Regular price is $ 79.95 => http://www.logos.com/product/28494/logos-5-core-datasets

If purchase Logos 5 Core Datasets, then dynamic upgrade price for => http://www.logos.com/product/28376/logos-5-minimal-crossgrade reduces from regular price of $ 159.95 to under $ 100.

One friend upgraded from Logos 4 Platinum to Logos 5 Silver, followed by $ 6.14 for Logos 5 Minimal Crossgrade.

Caveat: larger bundle purchase has smaller price per resource.

Keep Smiling Smile

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 12 2013 8:04 AM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):

One friend upgraded from Logos 4 Platinum to Logos 5 Silver, followed by $ 6.14 for Logos 5 Minimal Crossgrade.

This is the upgrade path I chose and I have not regretted it at all. Big Smile

Making Disciples!  Logos Ecosystem = Logos8 on Microsoft Surface Pro 4 (Win10), Android app on tablet, FSB on iPhone, [deprecated] Windows App, Proclaim, Faithlife.com, FaithlifeTV via Connect subscription.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 12 2013 9:07 AM

My upgrade path started way back in L2! I had been given a copy a long time ago, and for some reason it didn't ever click with me. Perhaps it was the L2 format, or just the resources... Either way, I had to use L3 so that I could cite journals at my bible college and despised it. The set up was one computer, scores of users (a practice no longer employed).

L4 was just reaching the end of its product life cycle and a professor at seminary introduced me to L4.

I was hooked and purchased L4 Scholars Silver. Then within a couple of weeks L5 came out. Chaos... Do I keep L4, do I call and ask for L5 instead? Did I get stuck with the OLD model, when I should really have been told to wait a week and buy the new model? The forums helped me understand what was going on, and I eventually purchased L5 Bronze, which I later canceled opting for Silver, and recently upgraded to Platinum.

So my upgrade path has been L2 Level 3 -> L4 Silver -> L5 Platinum.

With a goodly number of third party L3 packages added on, and scores of CP books.

I guess my point is you may feel like you have enough digital books now... but give it time, and as you get used to the software its value will grow in your estimation. Then you might find your self looking to replace your print books... At that point, the large packages are a good option...

It cost me less to go from L4 silver -> L5 platinum than it would have cost to buy just the parts of Platinum that I wanted.

L2 lvl4, L3 Scholars, L4 Scholars, L5 Platinum,  L6 Collectors. L7 Baptist Portfolio. L8 Baptist Platinum.

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