How to Use CLAUSE SEARCH?

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Bill Fiess | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Nov 9 2012 1:30 PM

Could someone give an example or two as to how one would use the CLAUSE SEARCH in Logos 5?

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Philana Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2012 1:58 PM

It really is a great tool. I can give you a couple of ways I have recently used Clause Search.

  1. To study a person: Two people I was recently studying was Uzziah and Timothy. In the case of Uzziah, he is not only referred to as Uzziah, but has a second name. By using person:Uzziah (king) and the results gave me places where he was mentioned by name, alias, title, or pronoun. In the case of Timothy I used the following search person:Timothy it not only brought instances where his name was used, title, alias, or pronoun but pronouns where Timothy is in a group (letting us see where he was with Paul in others on missionary trips) and the text says we also showed up.
  2. To see another type of event: When studying Isaiah 6:1-8 I wanted to see if someone else had "seen the Lord" as Isaiah had. Using the clause search query verb-lemma:ראה person:God I actually found two prophets who described something similar to what Isaiah describes.

There is no way I could have found those using even a syntax search. I think you will find it a very useful tool.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2012 2:04 PM

person:Jesus person:Peter

Will give you every place that Jesus is referred to in a clause by proper name, other title (Lord), pronoun (he), etc. and where Peter is mentioned in any of the same ways.

person:Jesus subject:Peter

Will give you every place either is referred to but limited to those cases where Peter is the subject of the clause.

Lots of other examples including places and things are fairly easy to see what would happen. I haven't played around with the verbs, adverbial modifiers, etc. yet.

BTW: The 5.0a beta is testing a new function that will be seen in Analysis view: polarity (positive or negative) which can help you narrow down, say, the interactions Jesus had with Peter in which Jesus used a grammatically negative statement (John 13:8 "If I do not wash you, you have no part of me.").

EDIT: Philana gave you some good example while I was typing.

EDIT: Clarifying the note on the L5.0a beta feature

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Donnie Hale | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2012 2:18 PM

Mark Smith:

person:Jesus person:Peter

Will give you every place that Jesus is referred to in the verse by proper name, other title (Lord), pronoun (he), etc. and where Peter is mentioned in any of the same ways.

Will it restrict the results to when they both occur in a single verse? Or in the same sentence? If the former, is there a way to get it to look more broadly? If the latter, I assume it goes by the sentence structure from the resource in which it's searching?

Thanks,

Donnie

 

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2012 2:27 PM

Donnie Hale:
Will it restrict the results to when they both occur in a single verse?

I don't know anything you don't know about how it is designed. Results are viewable only by verse or in analysis view, so my guess would be by verses not sentences. I looked through a search I did and didn't see any multi-verse single sentence examples. All were in the same verse but almost all the verses were complete sentences, so that is inconclusive.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2012 2:55 PM

Donnie Hale:
Will it restrict the results to when they both occur in a single verse?

I could be wrong, but I believe the hits must be within the same clause, usually less than a full sentence.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2012 3:10 PM

Jack Caviness:
I could be wrong, but I believe the hits must be within the same clause, usually less than a full sentence.

You are right, Jack. I doubt there are many clauses that span verses, but I'd assume the software would ignore any verse boundaries.

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Chris Robbers (Logos) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2012 3:18 PM

There are a good number of clauses that do span verses, and we handle that case.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2012 3:24 PM

Chris Robbers (Logos):
There are a good number of clauses that do span verses, and we handle that case.

Yes The tool looks very helpful.

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2012 6:08 PM

You can also use it to find where someone does something. For example, find things that Jesus said (where the verb is used)

subject:Jesus  verb:to say

It catches even places where it's translated "he said"

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2012 6:25 PM

Kevin Becker:

You can also use it to find where someone does something. For example, find things that Jesus said (where the verb is used)

subject:Jesus  verb:to say

It catches even places where it's translated "he said"

Ooh, do we finally have a way to find all the questions Jesus asked? Nah, it looks like that isn't part of the clause tagging. Next version maybe! ???

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