Cross reference.

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Josh Hunt | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Nov 14 2012 1:24 PM

Waht is the quickest way to get a cross reference? I have this verse on the screen; 1 Thessalonians 5:18 (NIV)

18 give thanks in all circumstances; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus.

 

I want similar verses.  Fast. 

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 14 2012 1:31 PM

Use the Explorer window.  (Found on the Tools menu)

Close down all sections except Cross References to make it faster:

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Sam DeSocio | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 12 2013 9:56 AM

Im curious what resources does the explorer use to pull cross references?

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HansK | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 12 2013 10:48 AM

Open the NTSK is also an option.

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 12 2013 1:27 PM

Sam DeSocio:

Im curious what resources does the explorer use to pull cross references?

I've been told that it's an internal summary of cross references found in the various Bible resources.

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Victor Dela Cruz | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2013 9:45 AM

I've always been told that the references were coming from the TSK but after looking at it more closely, I am not sure that is the case.

Take John 15:7 for example.  Here's the Cross Reference generated by the Passage Guide.

TSK

Meanwhile, here are the references from TSK for John 15:7.  Notice it is missing some critical verses (italicized, underlined,in bold letters and with a check mark to its left).

  • 7. If. ƒ184C, Mt +4:9. ye abide. T#1301. ver. 4. Zc 3:7. my words. Jn 8:+*31, 37. Dt 6:6. Jb +*23:12. Ps ✓119:11. Pr 4:4. Je +*15:16. Lk *8:15. Col ✓3:16. 1 J *2:14, 27. 2 J 1, 2. abide in. Jn 5:38. ye shall ask. ver. *16. Jn +*14:13. 16:23. Jb 22:26, 27. Ps *37:4. Pr 10:24. Is 45:11. 58:8, 9. Ja *4:2, 3. *5:16. 1 J *3:22. ✓5:14, 15. what ye will. Est 8:8.

    Jerome H. Smith, The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge: The Most Complete Listing of Cross References Available Anywhere- Every Verse, Every Theme, Every Important Word (Nashville TN: Thomas Nelson, 1992), 1217.

So I am not really sure where the Cross Reference verses from PG are coming from.  It would be nice if Logos can add the missing references plus the word/phrase the verses are actually referencing (probably include the symbols as well like the check mark to indicate something is a critical verse).

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Andrew Batishko (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2013 10:29 AM

Victor, I believe the results in the Cross References section are generated by looking for cross reference footnotes in all the bibles in your library.

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David P. Moore | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2013 11:30 AM

This reminds me of a question I thought of the other day in Church when I was using my print NKJV Study Bible (Nelson)...I was using the cross references that appearing in the "gutter" section on each page, and was wondering if these references were in the Logos edition, however I don't readily see them just now. Are they in Logos?

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Roger G Black | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2013 12:15 PM

I pulled up the Nelson NKJV Study Bible and next to it for comparison another NKJV.  The answer was No.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2013 12:15 PM

Andrew Batishko (Logos):
I believe the results in the Cross References section are generated by looking for cross reference footnotes in all the bibles in your library.

Not correct. Only a few are used. See HELP! my memory cache is full (warning: long and winding thread, but it gets there eventually).

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My apologies. My explanation was too concise. Yes, it finds the list of bibles that are marked to indicate they contain cross references. Then it looks in each of those bibles to see if any cross reference footnotes have been marked at the desired reference for the guide.

I also see the posts in that thread indicating that references are limited to the ranges supported by your top bibles. It doesn't look like a Logos employee responded to this issue, so I'll write up a case to consider this issue. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 30 2013 3:31 PM

Andrew Batishko (Logos):
I also see the posts in that thread indicating that references are limited to the ranges supported by your top bibles. It doesn't look like a Logos employee responded to this issue, so I'll write up a case to consider this issue.

BUG: incomplete cross-reference results

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Thanks, fgh. Bradley does seem to indicate there that the issue mentioned is resolved. Any differences in behavior from my last explanation should be reported as a bug.

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