Combining multiple manuscripts into one resource

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Harry Hahne | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Nov 28 2009 5:53 PM

Version 4 0 has wisely combined multiple volumes of a multivolume book into one resource. This is very useful for encyclopedias and similar works.

Strangely, they have not combined into one resource the book The Text of the Earliest New Testament Greek Manuscripts. This is actually one print volume with transcriptions of many manuscripts. But each manuscript appears as a separate resource and the introduction is yet another resource. it would be nice if all of these manuscripts were combined into one resource with an expandable table of contents for each manuscript.

The same thing is done with the Targum fragments.

I suppose one advantage of the present arrangement is you can compare manuscripts. Perhaps this is why it is arranged this way. But it does clutter up the list of books in the Library.

Also the Introduction of The Text of the Earliest New Testament Greek Manuscripts does not wrap around to fit the window, so you have to do horizontal scrolling to read the very long lines. This makes it unnecessarily difficult to read.

 

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T MacLeod | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 29 2009 4:06 AM

Harry Hahne:

Strangely, they have not combined into one resource the book The Text of the Earliest New Testament Greek Manuscripts.

On mine they are combined in a single resource (in addition to the separate ones).  It seems odd that yours would be different.

Harry Hahne:

Also the Introduction of The Text of the Earliest New Testament Greek Manuscripts does not wrap around to fit the window, so you have to do horizontal scrolling to read the very long lines. This makes it unnecessarily difficult to read.

That is annoying, I agree.  Also, some of the charts don't display properly in floating windows.

 

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Harry Hahne | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 29 2009 11:33 AM

T MacLeod:

Harry Hahne:

Strangely, they have not combined into one resource the book The Text of the Earliest New Testament Greek Manuscripts.

On mine they are combined in a single resource (in addition to the separate ones).  It seems odd that yours would be different.

Interesting. I did find the single resource version at the bottom of the list. So I guess they give us a choice of using it either way: as a number of individual works or as a single volume. I found out if you hide one of the individual manuscript resources, you can still view it in the main book, but you cannot view it in a separate window.

The main advantage I can see of the separate resources for each manuscript is to use the Text comparison feature to compare manuscripts. I just tried this on John 1 with P66 and P75. Very cool!

So since they have the combined book, I am happy.

They don't seem to have a combined resource for the Comprehensive Aramaic Lexicon. In the Introduction to the LDLS edition of the CAL Targums, it suggests creating a Collection to search them all at once.

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Harry Hahne | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 29 2009 11:53 AM

I notice that the introduction resource does not appear if you enter "Comprehensive" in your Library Browser. It is abbreviated as CAL, so it took a few tries to find it (I eventually entered "Targum" and found it).

The reason is that the Author is entered as "Logos Research Systems", but the other resources in this book are listed as "Comprehensive Aramaic Lexicon". I believe this should be corrected.

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Bob Pritchett | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 29 2009 3:07 PM

We've added (and are improving) special interface to group manuscripts and fragments in Bible drop-down pickers, etc.

The system doesn't allow a single book to have the same "milestone" in it more than once. (Well, it does, but then it can't get to/work with them all correctly.) So books that contain multiple instances of the same Bible passage, and which need to be marked with passage milestones to enable Text Comparison, linked scrolling, etc. have to be broken up into multiple e-books.

This is primarily papyri and targums. Sorry for the inconvenience!

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 29 2009 3:43 PM

Bob Pritchett:

We've added (and are improving) special interface to group manuscripts and fragments in Bible drop-down pickers, etc.

The system doesn't allow a single book to have the same "milestone" in it more than once. (Well, it does, but then it can't get to/work with them all correctly.) So books that contain multiple instances of the same Bible passage, and which need to be marked with passage milestones to enable Text Comparison, linked scrolling, etc. have to be broken up into multiple e-books.

This is primarily papyri and targums. Sorry for the inconvenience!

Bob,

Thanks for explaining this.  I haven't been one of those complaining about it, but I nevertheless always wondered.  That's one less thing to puzzle me.

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Harry Hahne | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 29 2009 4:07 PM

Bob Pritchett:

The system doesn't allow a single book to have the same "milestone" in it more than once. (Well, it does, but then it can't get to/work with them all correctly.) So books that contain multiple instances of the same Bible passage, and which need to be marked with passage milestones to enable Text Comparison, linked scrolling, etc. have to be broken up into multiple e-books.

This is primarily papyri and targums. Sorry for the inconvenience!

Thanks for explaining this.

I always found it annoying in version 3 to have my library cluttered with all of these papyri and targums. But I see the advantage now when doing passage comparison. I also understand that since these manuscripts often cover the same Bible passage, one continuous resource is more of a problem. I like that for the Greek NT manuscripts you give us a choice of viewing it as the original book or as separate manuscripts. If I want to cite a book, I need the page, which the book format allows. As far as I know the targums never appeared as a printed book, but the Comprehensive Aramaic Lexicon project has always been electronic.

BTW, a few of the Greek manuscripts do not show up in the Bible version pick list, but if I entered them manually it worked. I tried comparing P66 and P75 on John 1. Neither was listed as a choice when I typed P6 or P7, but if I entered the full number it worked fine. So this is a minor bug.

 

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