I have Libronix 3.0g running on Windows 8

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John | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Nov 30 2012 7:09 PM

I have Libronix 3.0g running on Windows 8.

I installed it with the intention of finding a solution to all the problems others have reported.

I am unable to duplicate the issues with saving and loading workspaces that others reported.

I am also unable to reproduce the errors in the advanced search window that others have reported.

It runs in both admin or user mode. It runs with or without "Windows XP" compatibility checked.

I have not done extensive testing yet, but so far I do not see any problems.

Here is the process I followed to install:

1) Clean install (brand new computer with 64-bit Windows 8)

2) Installed completely offline. No internet connection. Everything was installed from the .ZIP file at

 ftp://ftp.logos.com/ldls/Zip/LibronixDLS-3.0g.zip

3) Licenses were restored from a license backup file.

4) No online updates were applied. Only the contents of the .ZIP file were installed.

5) No modifications to registry or anything else were made.

It just worked.

So now I am wondering ... why does it work on mine, but others have had problems?

 

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John | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 30 2012 8:19 PM

After a bit more testing, I discovered one item that was not working correctly. The Bibliography tool drop down lists were empty.

I then installed the IE9 Registry fix that is available on this forum. The problem was fixed. I delete the registry key, problem was back.

So it seems clear that the registry key is still needed on Windows 8.

I also noticed some sluggishness when processing was going on in one window and I attempted to open another. I found that choosing

"Windows 7" in the compatibility settings worked better than the "Windows XP" settings. I cannot explain why this would be, but it seems

to perform better that way.

I must conclude after testing for myself that L3 does indeed run on Windows 8. Big Smile

In fact it seems to run better than it did on my Windows 7 machine.

The question remains, why did others have problems? I suspect it might be necessary to do a clean install rather than an upgrade to get

the program registered correctly. It is also possible that the setup files contained in the .ZIP file are not identical to the ones that get executed

by running the scripts from the website. Maybe others can shed more light on this. I would really like to see others duplicate my success,

particularly if they had problems previously.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 1 2012 2:19 AM

John:

I installed it with the intention of finding a solution to all the problems others have reported.

I am unable to duplicate the issues with saving and loading workspaces that others reported.

I am also unable to reproduce the errors in the advanced search window that others have reported.

Can you run a Greek Morphological Search?

Does a Bible Search run on the word you type in?

Can you create a Word List?

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 1 2012 2:35 AM

John:

The question remains, why did others have problems? I suspect it might be necessary to do a clean install rather than an upgrade to get

the program registered correctly. It is also possible that the setup files contained in the .ZIP file are not identical to the ones that get executed

by running the scripts from the website.

The zip file contains a slightly cut-down version of the CD/DVD installation; missing only a couple of data sets. One possibility is that MS tweaked its early Enterprise "RTM" release (that I used) for the actual commercial release. Another is that my Virtual Machine did not run Win 8 exactly as a real (host) Windows 8. So I won't know any better until I get a retail Win 8 running on one of my computers.

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John | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 1 2012 8:58 AM

Dave Hooton:

Can you run a Greek Morphological Search?

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John | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 1 2012 9:00 AM

Dave Hooton:

Does a Bible Search run on the word you type in?

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John | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 1 2012 9:02 AM

Dave Hooton:

Can you create a Word List?

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 1 2012 9:19 AM

Great work John! This thread's definitiely a keeper for me.


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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 1 2012 2:32 PM

That's excellent. So MS definitely tweaked things before the real ReleaseWink

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Medardo Suarez | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 2 2012 8:45 PM

It didi work for me. I copy before the entire CD  in my C;\  and then I added this path in resources (options/ general)  

Thanks

M

 

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 5 2012 4:23 AM

John, I was hard on you in the other thread, so I wanted to say that you have provided very good information here!  Thanks!

Disclaimer:  I hate using messaging, texting, and email for real communication.  If anything that I type to you seems like anything other than humble and respectful, then I have not done a good job typing my thoughts.

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John | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 15 2012 6:12 PM

In another thread, Dave H. reported having upgraded to Windows 8, and he is still experiencing problems with L3.

Dave reported having done an "in place" upgrade from Win7 to Win8.

It is possible that L3 is not going to run correctly unless it is installed "clean" onto Win8. If you plan on doing an in-place upgrade to Win8, I recommend uninstalling L3 beforehand. Then do a clean install from the .ZIP file after Win8 is running.

If you get it running successfully, let us know here. Or if you don't.

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John | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 25 2012 1:52 AM

In another thread another user has reported success with L3 running on Win8. He also posted pictures: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/59271.aspx

This user also did an in-place upgrade to Win8, so the problems that Dave H. had seem to be unique to Dave. This being said, It is still recommended that those who wish to continue running L3 stick with Win7 or lower. While it does run on Windows 8, there is no guarantee that you will not experience problems, and no support from Logos.

Please post your successes or failures here so others will have a better indication of their chance for success Big Smile

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 25 2012 2:17 PM

John:
In another thread another user has reported success with L3 running on Win8. He also posted pictures: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/59271.aspx

This one?  http://community.logos.com/forums/p/59271/444389.aspx#444389

I can post those pics but it still doesn't mean it works (Milford wasn't specific and stated he really doesn't use it).

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Doug | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 25 2012 5:07 PM

I had trouble with L3 a few days ago.  Every time I tried to launch the program it would crash.  Win 8 updated that night and the next morning the program worked fine again.  Still working fine now.

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John | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 25 2012 5:09 PM

Dave Hooton:

I can post those pics but it still doesn't mean it works (Milford wasn't specific and stated he really doesn't use it).

I agree Dave. He did not claim to have done extensive testing on it. Nor did he mention any problems with it.

The only computer I can verify without a doubt that it worked on was my own. Everyone else I accept their statements in good faith.

Bradley says it worked on his. Milford says it works on his. You say it doesnt work on yours.  I believe that all are being truthful and honest.

And I am not recommending that anyone try this ... I do not recommend Windows 8, Logos 4 or Logos 5.

But for those who may be in a situation where they are already stuck with Windows 8, I would like to see more testimony to help them make an informed decision. So far we have very little here, which is probably a good indicator that there just isnt much interest in L3 anymore.

Personally I have an investment in resources, and I plan on using L3 for a long time to come, whether it is supported by Logos or not. I see no benefit in Windows 8 for a desktop or laptop computer. But I also recognize that not everyone is going to be willing to wipe a brand new Windows 8 computer and Install Windows 7 like I did recently.

 

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John | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 25 2012 5:11 PM

Doug:

I had trouble with L3 a few days ago.  Every time I tried to launch the program it would crash.  Win 8 updated that night and the next morning the program worked fine again.  Still working fine now.

Sounds like there could be an important clue here. Any idea which updates were installed that night?  On Win7 its under "view update history" in Windows update.

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 27 2012 5:41 AM

Dave Hooton:
I can post those pics but it still doesn't mean it works (Milford wasn't specific and stated he really doesn't use it).

Dave is correct.  I don't really use it!       *smile*        Peace to all!

I did just now add to that other thread these words for Kelly

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Today 5:38 AM

Rev. Kelly Todd:

yes, I dont really use libronix either, but I use it when I cant figure out how to do what I want in logos 4.  now tonight, I am unable to save a change in the workspace... it must have finally figured out that it no longer had IE9 LOL

God's richest blessings to all

 

Peace to you, Kelly!         *smile*                    I just use Logos 3.0g now and again, just for the "fun" of it   ...    or   "for old times sake"            However, I thought I'd check what you had problems with  --  I have IE 10 -- and I CAN open and close workspaces ......

Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

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John Peter Richardson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 27 2013 6:43 AM

I have just 'upgraded', if you can call it that, to Windows 8 and now my Libronix doesn't work properly.

Everything displays, but I can't do a search as the program will not accept any new search terms. What it will do is carry out the last search I used!

I have tried uninstalling Libronix and using the 'purge' .bat routine as well, plus deleting registry entries for Libronix. Yet when I reinstall it, it still has the old search terms listed AND displays the last desktop I used before I deleted it!

I am most frustrated, especially as Libronix still uses Graecall and Hebraicall fonts, which are compatible with my WordPerfect software, whereas Logos does not. If Logos used those fonts, I'd switch. As it is I don't want to.

Has anyone any suggestions?

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 27 2013 7:39 AM

Given that you absolutely do not want to upgrade to Logos4/5 (for compatability with WordPerfect) and also given that you ran the IE9 fix ( http://community.logos.com/forums/t/30926.aspx ), then I'd run Libronix in a VirtualBox. If you got Windows Pro it is probably is free; else there's Microsoft/pay, plus a couple commercial versions.

I'm on Windows7/64 with Libronix issues. I run it in a VirtualBox (along some other older software) and everything is picture perfect. (I also run Logos5 as well).  Just for info the VirtualBox pretty much duplicates an XP environment approximately the time of IE6-ish. Reads CD/DVD drives, internet, etc.

You're sure that those fonts can't be used in Logos4/5? Just to make sure?


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