Interface in other languages

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Andreas Holmberg | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Dec 1 2009 12:29 PM

Hi

I´ve searched the forum for posts about logos 4 becoming available with interfaces for  other languages. Couldn't find anything. Last time I checked the "missing features"-page had nothing to say about this issue.

Does anyone know whether logos 4 will soon be available with intefaces in other languages but English?

Kindly,

Andreas Holmberg

Pastor in Stockholm, Church of Sweden

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toughski | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 1 2009 5:08 PM

I asked Logos about foreign interfaces and even offered my help with Russian, no response so far.  They must me swamped.

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Bob Pritchett | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 1 2009 8:56 PM

With Logos 3 we did whatever interface languages we could, even if only partially, and even if we didn't have a lot of books in the language.

With Logos 4 we're planning to do only complete, maintained translations. We'll have fewer -- primarily for languages in which we have many books -- but they're be well done and thorough.

Spanish will be first; I expect you'll see German, French, and Portuguese next.

-- Bob

 

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toughski | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 1 2009 10:35 PM

thank you for working in this direction. 

As far as Libronix (v3) is there opportunity to complete the "incomplete" interfaces, such as Russian?  We have a Bible Institute here in Siberia and I am really promoting Logos Bible Software to our students and preachers.  However, the only resource available in Russian is the Russian Bible.  We are mitigating this by producing PBB resources, so possibly as the user base grows we may see publishers get on board as well.

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Michael Cochran | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 2 2010 8:23 PM

I agree that if a user is mainly using resources in an international language then they should be able to handle a user interface in that language. In the past we were able to contribute to the localization of the Libronix software. If there will be resources that are added in many other languages then it would be great if we could continue to do so.

I would encourage you to allow partial interfaces. We have found in SIL that many times users who do not understand English well are still able to use a product that uses "standard" menus since they have used them in other products that only have an English user interface to do simple tasks (editing and using File open, Search, etc) while entering data in their mother tongue. When it comes to tasks that are unique to LOGOS 4 they need to interact with an interface in a language that they know. I believe this would allow you to do two things:

  1. Incrementally introduce interfaces in other languages in a way that helped people.
  2. Allow people to determine "how much" was enough in terms of user interface for the tasks that they do.
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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 2 2010 9:03 PM

If I am correct, we have Spanish and Swedish already implemented. The local interface language IMHO is not only for people who do not speak English (they will use English books anyway), it is also a signal to them that Logos is also for them, for their language group. I would suggest to have an interface in all languages you have Bibles in Logos. I am willing to help with Czech of course Smile

Bohuslav

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 2 2010 9:26 PM

Bohuslav Wojnar:

I would suggest to have an interface in all languages you have Bibles in Logos. I am willing to help with Czech of course Smile

But there is no Czech Bible in Logos...yet. Smile

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 2 2010 10:01 PM

Rosie Perera:

Bohuslav Wojnar:

I would suggest to have an interface in all languages you have Bibles in Logos. I am willing to help with Czech of course Smile

But there is no Czech Bible in Logos...yet. Smile

Well, you are mistaken Rosie Smile. http://www.logos.com/ebooks/details/CS-KR1579

I know, it is an old translation, from 1579. We we are expecting new translation shortly.

Bohuslav

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 2 2010 11:22 PM

Bohuslav Wojnar:

Rosie Perera:

But there is no Czech Bible in Logos...yet. Smile

Well, you are mistaken Rosie Smile. http://www.logos.com/ebooks/details/CS-KR1579

I know, it is an old translation, from 1579. We we are expecting new translation shortly.

Oh, my mistake (bad memory). I thought I'd remembered you asking and asking for a Czech Bible in Logos, but it was a newer translation you wanted.

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 10 2010 11:45 AM

Rosie Perera:
I thought I'd remembered you asking and asking for a Czech Bible in Logos, but it was a newer translation you wanted.

Good, it means if you noticed I am asking and asking... Logos surely noticed also Big Smile (That is my purpose in mentioning it from time to time - to keep it high on the list of the suggested new Bible translations in Logos Smile)

Bohuslav

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Matthew Carroll | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2011 5:21 AM

Any update on a Portuguese language Interface?

I don't actually need the whole interface in Portuguese, but I'd like it to be able to handle Portuguese Scripture addresses and abbreviations.

For example, in Portuguese, "2 Timothy 2:2" is normally abbreviated, "2Tm 2.2", but Logos 4 doesn't recognize "Tm" as Timothy (Libronix 3 with Pt Interface did).

Ideally, I'd like to use the personal book builder to load a syllabus in Portuguese into Logos 4 so I can teach from it, but without the capability to recognize standard Portuguese Scripture abbreviations, it's not much use.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2011 5:32 AM

Matthew Carroll:
For example, in Portuguese, "2 Timothy 2:2" is normally abbreviated, "2Tm 2.2", but Logos 4 doesn't recognize "Tm" as Timothy (Libronix 3 with Pt Interface did).

Looking at Logos 4 Bible Book abbreviations => http://www.logos.com/L4/support/biblebookabbrev noticed Timothy has many abbreviations, but not "Tm" (wonder if "tm" not included to avoid issues with "TM" abbreviation for Trade Mark).

Keep Smiling Smile

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2011 6:23 AM

Bob Pritchett:
Spanish will be first; I expect you'll see German, French, and Portuguese next.

I suggest the order:  Spanish, German, Czech,  Portuguese and French in order of importance.

george
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יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2011 6:32 AM

Well, much of 'all the world' in early Christianity was what today we call 'Europe'. Seems only right.

"I didn't know God made honky tonk angels."

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toughski | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2011 6:44 AM

I thought we were going by Domestic debt levels.  I guess will never see Chinese then Wink

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2011 7:02 AM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
Looking at Logos 4 Bible Book abbreviations => http://www.logos.com/L4/support/biblebookabbrev noticed Timothy has many abbreviations, but not "Tm" (wonder if "tm" not included to avoid issues with "TM" abbreviation for Trade Mark).

Note that the trade mark symbol () is superscripted.

george
gfsomsel

יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2011 7:19 AM

Matthew Carroll:

Any update on a Portuguese language Interface?

I don't actually need the whole interface in Portuguese, but I'd like it to be able to handle Portuguese Scripture addresses and abbreviations.

For example, in Portuguese, "2 Timothy 2:2" is normally abbreviated, "2Tm 2.2", but Logos 4 doesn't recognize "Tm" as Timothy (Libronix 3 with Pt Interface did).

Ideally, I'd like to use the personal book builder to load a syllabus in Portuguese into Logos 4 so I can teach from it, but without the capability to recognize standard Portuguese Scripture abbreviations, it's not much use.

As far as I recall previous discussions on localization, the handling of Scripture abbreviations is independent of the localized language user interface and some more countries are supported than the UIs (confirmed by Tonya, IIRC). I seem to remember that Bohuslav was happy with the Czech solution, whereas Russian and German turned out to be nonexisting back then. Maybe something has changed in the recent beta to this end.

You should check which books work (and if separating the verse by period instead of colon works) - if it's only a small number of abbreviations not working, maybe Logos will put these into their algorithm or you could replace them in Word prior to building the book.

Mick

 

  

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2011 7:34 AM

NewbieMick:
I seem to remember that Bohuslav was happy with the Czech solution, whereas Russian and German turned out to be nonexisting back then.

Mick, it is true only for creating PBBs in the languages listed in the PBB Tool. When speaking about using Bible abbreviations in the UI of the program, I have to use English even in the Czech Bibles (including those PBB Bibles created with using the Czech abbreviations in the milestones). I think this is really connected to the UI language and it should be so IMHO.

Bohuslav

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2011 9:44 AM

Bohuslav Wojnar:

NewbieMick:
I seem to remember that Bohuslav was happy with the Czech solution, whereas Russian and German turned out to be nonexisting back then.

Mick, it is true only for creating PBBs in the languages listed in the PBB Tool. When speaking about using Bible abbreviations in the UI of the program, I have to use English even in the Czech Bibles (including those PBB Bibles created with using the Czech abbreviations in the milestones). I think this is really connected to the UI language and it should be so IMHO.

Yes, thanks for clarifying. I interpreted the question as referring to making a PB in Portuguese (wonder if the Compiler works better if one claims the text to be Spanish). The Bible abbreviations used in the UI are another piece of cake altogether. 

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 1 2011 10:00 AM

NewbieMick:
Yes, thanks for clarifying. I interpreted the question as referring to making a PB in Portuguese (wonder if the Compiler works better if one claims the text to be Spanish). The Bible abbreviations used in the UI are another piece of cake altogether. 

Why would you need to claim the text to be any particular language?  If you enter your text in unicode, it shouldn't matter.  I enter text in Greek and never tag it as Greek, but Greek is what I get.

george
gfsomsel

יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

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