Faithlife Study Bible Infographics problem

I am teaching a couple college classes this semester, and some of the timelines would be very handy if they were usable. But they aren't. I can choose "fit," which makes all the text illegible, or "actual size" which makes the timeline too gargantuan to be practical. When I attempt to print them, copy them to word, or to powerpoint, they are always thumbnail size.

How can I use these resources at a reasonable scale? How can I export them to other software or print them at a legible scale?

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Rich DeRuiter

I am teaching a couple college classes this semester, and some of the timelines would be very handy if they were usable. But they aren't. I can choose "fit," which makes all the text illegible, or "actual size" which makes the timeline too gargantuan to be practical. When I attempt to print them, copy them to word, or to powerpoint, they are always thumbnail size.

How can I use these resources at a reasonable scale? How can I export them to other software or print them at a legible scale?

Welcome to the forums!

Not sure exactly what it is you want to do, but I wonder if using a screen capture program might serve your purposes. See the wiki for several options: http://wiki.logos.com/Screenshot

Beloved Amodeo

I am teaching a couple college classes this semester

I take it from your statement here you may be interested in exporting the image from the timeline event of interest into a program like Power Point or preparing a handout. If this be the case. Choose your event, you can change the display style by selecting (1) Graffiti once you have found an acceptable style select the small triangle (2). Choose Print. You will now be presented with another pop-up screen. Choose Landscape (1). Now you can either simply print from here to produce what I think will be an acceptable copy or you can Export to Power Point or Word, etc.

Me thinks in my haste to be helpful I misread your post. Your question regards the FSB timelines that's a whole nother matter. I here defer to the advice of Richard. Sorry for the confusion on my part. Some may still find my info useful, so I will allow it to remain posted.

Justin David Strong

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/448230#Comment_448230

Thanks for the detailed reply, but the timeline I'm looking at is different. I have the Original Languages Package, which I believe doesn't have the timeline you used.

The timelines I have are found under Faithlife Study Bible Infographics > Timelines

I also have no button marked "Graffiti" that I can see.

Also to the first reply, I would use "print screen" but as I mentioned, my options are either displaying the timeline way too small, or way too big.

Beloved Amodeo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/448244#Comment_448244

I have the Original Languages Package, which I believe doesn't have the timeline you used.

Yeah, as I address in my edit, I misread your post. I do now understand your issue. Please follow Richards instructions and look into screen capture as a work around. I use the free program Jing.

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

How can I use these resources at a reasonable scale?

Welcome [:D]

On Windows, can use open Timeline in a floating panel, maximize, then use wheel scrolling to adjust image size for a screen shot.

On OS X, can use wheel scrolling OR use trackpad with two fingers up/down to adjust image size for a screen shot.

Infographic images can me much wider than a Powerpoint slide, so may need several slides.

Keep Smiling [:)]

Milford Charles Murray

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/448230#Comment_448230

I take it from your statement here you may be interested in exporting the image from the timeline event of interest into a program like Power Point or preparing a handout. If this be the case. Choose your event, you can change the display style by selecting (1) Graffiti once you have found an acceptable style select the small triangle (2). Choose Print. You will now be presented with another pop-up screen. Choose Landscape (1). Now you can either simply print from here to produce what I think will be an acceptable copy or you can Export to Power Point or Word, etc.

Peace, Beloved! *smile* Me, again! ...

Just came across this older post about "printing timelines" ........... I realise that you made a slight error in reading the original post (like I do all the time!) -- However, just for fun I thought I'd print Timelines according to your instructions in this post .....

And! It turned out so very well that I'm posting it because it will be of great interest to those who wish to use Timelines -- and to share them -- Thank you for your original sharing.

Tom Reynolds

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/448254#Comment_448254

Yeah, as I address in my edit, I misread your post. I do now understand your issue. Please follow Richards instructions and look into screen capture as a work around. I use the free program Jing.

Or just Fn+PrtSc and paste it into your document and crop it to remove what you don't want like your mouse cursor

Mike

Hello Justin,

I apologize for the trouble you're experiencing. The Faithlife Infographics are super-high-resolution images, and some of those timelines are literally enormous (example: Egypt). The best way to pull them out of the software is to right-click on the image. You can save it as an image file, or drop it directly into PowerPoint for presenting.

If you're putting this on a low-resolution monitor or projector, you may need to split it into sections. To do that, save as image, then open that image in an image editor, like Photoshop and you can crop it down as necessary.

Scott Sanjay Hayes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/451022#Comment_451022

Mike,

When I right-click and save the image, the resulting file is pixelated and looks terrible when I enlarge it. I've tried going to "Actual Size" in Logos 4 first, and then saving, but that does work either. The same thing happens when I export to PowerPoint. The resulting image is pixelated when I try to see the text in the image. The result is unusable.

Sample screen shot from Logos 4.

Here's a screen shot from the resulting exported file.

How do I fix this?

Thanks!

Scott

Mike

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/456289#Comment_456289

Hey Scott,

I've done a little more testing and I see the issue. It looks like we are stretching the image when we use the right-click > Save as... function. The rasterized image seems to be around 1950x1080, or designed to fit within that size (standard 16:9 "HD" screen).

The trick is, the original (what you see inside Logos) is a vector graphic (unlimited size) at a much larger view-size (about 4x) and it looks like this function (above) is stretching the raster version to try to match. I'm discussing this with Development to see what is causing this, but I suspect we're not actually rendering the vector, but instead exporting a pre-rendered, fixed size version.

For the purpose of projecting, the original 1080p image is probably sufficient and you can access it by using the Print/Export menu (CTRL/CMD+P) and selecting "Image" as the output format. Hopefully this is helpful for now. I imagine we'll be able to update the software to save the standard size from right-click in the future.

Jeff Scarborough

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/456565#Comment_456565

Mike,

Have you found a better solution for this issue? Or maybe a work around? I would like to show these when I teach my Sunday School class and have seen the same results as Scott. I am using a Windows machine and would like to export the Event Lines to PowerPoint. Thanks. --Jeff in Texas

Mike

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/474026#Comment_474026

Sorry Jeff,

I reported the issue and it is being looked into. It's technically working by design right now; it's just not designed to export at the size you're wanting. I'm not sure if the solution will be to somehow distribute the vector source files, or rewrite the exporter to custom-rasterize the vector to a desired size (very complicated and less likely to happen).

I'll let you know what comes of it.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/475087#Comment_475087

Huh? No one teaches in church at Logos using Faithlife (I'm sure someone might.) Amateur-lady's Bible software resizes to the desired size on the export (and import but Logos doesn't do imports).

Jeff Scarborough

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/475087#Comment_475087

Mike, Why do the other pictures, charts, etc. (everything except for eventlines) transfer over to PowerPoint with no trouble? This makes this feature pretty much worthless in my opinion. I think those eventlines are really helpful for teaching the Bible and I just hate to see someone's work of putting those together go unused. Help!!

Jeff in Texas

Room4more

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/475139#Comment_475139

jpeg

You can use this one for the up and coming sunday

Martin Grainger Dean

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/475168#Comment_475168

Or these:
[IMG]http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/8342/jesusisbaptized.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/3175/jesusisborn.jpg[/IMG]

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/456565#Comment_456565

Hi Mike

For the purpose of projecting, the original 1080p image is probably sufficient and you can access it by using the Print/Export menu (CTRL/CMD+P) and selecting "Image" as the output format

I've just tried to do this on an event line (I tried to access the Print menu from the event line shown below)

and Logos crashed.

(This was in 5.1 B2 so I'll post this in the Beta forum but just wanted to flag it here)

Graham

Brisa Davis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/475210#Comment_475210

Hi Mike

For the purpose of projecting, the original 1080p image is probably sufficient and you can access it by using the Print/Export menu (CTRL/CMD+P) and selecting "Image" as the output format

I've just tried to do this on an event line (I tried to access the Print menu from the event line shown below) ...

and Logos crashed.

(This was in 5.1 B2 so I'll post this in the Beta forum but just wanted to flag it here)

Graham

I have responded in the beta forum: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/68309.aspx

GaoLu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/479676#Comment_479676

Has this ever been resolved? Not the crashing, but that ability to export graphics at legible resolution?

I would love to have this graphic for teaching...logosres:fsbinfographics;art=thelifeofpaul

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/547761#Comment_547761

Has this ever been resolved? Not the crashing, but that ability to export graphics at legible resolution?

Confirmed Logos 5.2 SR-3 still rasterizes export when doing save as. Also send to Powerpoint rasterizes image to fit one slide. Copy image in Logos 5, then paste into PowerPoint is likewise rasterized.

Suggest using screen shots of infographic.

Keep Smiling [:)]

GaoLu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/547772#Comment_547772

Screenshots with Skitch and Panorama Stitch with Photoshop worked wonders.[:'(]

Didn't really take long. [8-|]

Thanks.[*-)]

Diane Lytle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/547761#Comment_547761

Same here - Has this issue been resolved?

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/611095#Comment_611095

No. The latest version still comes from 2012.

Ice Deep

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/611316#Comment_611316

Logos Please please fix this, I want to export the whole timeline in a legible resolution, not just a piece. If you don't understand see earlier posts.

GeoPappas

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/616658#Comment_616658

I would also like to see this issue fixed.

Diane Lytle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/547772#Comment_547772

Maybe the new Logos 6 has resolved this???

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/659718#Comment_659718

Afraid not - whether exported as png or sent to Powerpoint, Logos 6 is as bad as Logos 5.

Sean Boisen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/659958#Comment_659958

We've taken a step toward making these timelines easier to see with the Bible People Visual Timelines, one of the new Interactive Media. Here's a section from the Life of Abraham.

They're not yet exportable, but I believe that's planned. In the meantime, a screencapture should work (i use Greenshot regularly and it works well).

Diane Lytle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/660180#Comment_660180

That's a step in the right direction, but I really want to be able to export seamlessly. Keep working on it, Logos team!

GeoPappas

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/660489#Comment_660489

That's a step in the right direction, but I really want to be able to export seamlessly. Keep working on it, Logos team!

I would also like to be able to export the full-size images easily.

antonio rosario

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/660180#Comment_660180

I will say thank you at the outset. Greenshot is one I wasn't familiar with and do like what I see. However, I don't know if it's my lack of skillset but I am encountering a slight issue with this process as well. Namely, the title bar at the bottom of the page which occurs prior to Christ.

I guess other than this bar titled "The Life of David (Circa 1000 BC)" I'd be ok with snipping it, because it would be a little larger. Any ideas on removing it, I've tried everything....Take a look below at the infographics for Christ (I could scroll zoom and snip without that bar interferring with theimage. Any ideas greatly appreciated....GBY Life of David

Now Jesus:

No bar at the bottom

Jesus

David Sample Snip.png

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/672410#Comment_672410

Hi Antonio - and welcome to the forums

I can't see the pictures you posted.

Did you use the paperclip icon in the forum editor? If not, please try again using that.

Graham

antonio rosario

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/672413#Comment_672413

thanks, trying as we speak

antonio rosario

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/672413#Comment_672413

I'm guessing I probably need an online host for the photos on my computer. I'm not really much into creating accounts like these. Is there a way to post the picture without using URL from a foreign website other than the community forum..?

antonio rosario

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/672413#Comment_672413

Sorry for confusion, still learning how to use Greenshot. Very handy... I think I figured out how to post the pics now, if you want to have a look and let me know what you think...

thanks again

antonio rosario

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/672410#Comment_672410

Wasn't sure if anyone was able to see pics yet..? haven't heard back. I'll check back later.

Finals this week..

toughski

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/672452#Comment_672452

yes, we can see the pictures

antonio rosario

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/672464#Comment_672464

Thanks. Was busy this week with finals. I'm guessing no one knows how to remove that bottom field pane shaded in gray? With this gone, I'd be able to zoom in closer and snip what I need. Patiently waiting..Thanks guys!

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/673601#Comment_673601

I'm guessing no one knows how to remove that bottom field pane shaded in gray?

I don't see anyway of removing it from within Logos but don't see how it is stopping you scroll in to get the information you want.

And what version of Logos software are you running?

With Logos 6 you get the option to export the data in easily manageable sections

Jeremy Wilson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/456289#Comment_456289

I've just discovered a workaround that fixes the problem. I know that this is an old post, but I thought that someone who stumbles across it would find this solution helpful:

1) Log into bible.faithlife.com to access all the Faithlife materials.

2) Do a "Infographics, Images & Videos" search for the infographic you want to export or print.

Faithlife Image Search

3) When you click on the link, a popup will show that looks like this:

4) Click on the image, and a new tab will open in your browser with a high-resolution PNG version of that image.

5) You can use the little Magnifying Glass cursor to expand the picture. Then, just right-click the image and select "Copy Image" or "Save Image As...", depending on what you need to do with it.

Viola! You should have yourself a readable, usable image of the infographic you need.

antonio rosario

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/710050#Comment_710050

Nice. Will give it a try and see how it works. Still using Logos 5 right now. Can't afford the upgrade just yet. Thanks again.

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/710197#Comment_710197

Still using Logos 5 right now. Can't afford the upgrade just yet.

You can't afford free?

tm19

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/710050#Comment_710050

Thank you Jeremy. Five years and four whole versions later, and I appreciate stumbling on this post.

In fact, while I was at it, I downloaded all the long-form Timelines and Event Lines so I wouldn't have to worry about it in the future. Most of the images are around 1000px high, which is enough for a good quality PowerPoint slide.

It's a shame export of these helpful inforgraphics is still not fixed. I understand Faithlife not wanting to release the original vector drawings, but with Logos clocking in at several gigabytes, I would have thought ~300 MB for reasonable quality raster versions of the complete FSB collection wouldn't be too much of a storage burden. Maybe the problem is in the coding.