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Paul DiCicco | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Feb 23 2013 3:43 PM

What functionality is available for reverse interlinear's on the Logos iPhone app?

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 23 2013 6:00 PM

This is from the iPad. It looks different (the popup covers the screen), but the info is the same. 

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Paul DiCicco | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 24 2013 12:43 PM

Thanks you for the screenshot. Do you know if the iPhone app functions similarly to the iPad?

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 24 2013 1:20 PM

Paul DiCicco:
Do you know if the iPhone app functions similarly to the iPad?

Yes. As I said above, it looks different, but it functions the same. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 24 2013 1:47 PM

Here is a screen shot of the same passage as above on the iPhone:

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 24 2013 1:50 PM

Actually, you can notice that it IS slightly different in the Morphological section… Interesting. There is certainly less room to work with. I assume that has something to do with it. Wink

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 24 2013 1:52 PM

For kicks: Here is the same passage in L5 on Mac:

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Paul DiCicco | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 24 2013 3:36 PM

Thank you again for the help! I've been doing some comparison of Logos and Accordance and am pretty decided on Logos at this point but wanted to get a little more understanding of how capable the iPhone app was.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 24 2013 4:05 PM

Paul - I love Logos and highly recommend it. You should be aware that many of the mobile features are "online only" including word studies.

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Paul DiCicco | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 24 2013 4:52 PM

Thanks for the tip on the online features. Does that mean you can't view the interlinear data you displayed unless you're online? I assume I'd have the option to access any resources I download to the phone when I'm not online. Is that accurate? Additionally, I read that it used to be a challenge to research root words in the original languages on Logos, but that has improved with Logos 5. Can you show me any screenshots both on the computer and on the IOS app of how you can research root words in the original languages? Additionally, how easy is it to further research the morphological info in the tool? I don't have formal training in the original languages, so I'm looking for the ability to better understand things like the verb tense used in a given verse. Thank you again!

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 24 2013 11:35 PM

Paul DiCicco:
Does that mean you can't view the interlinear data you displayed unless you're online?

That is correct

Paul DiCicco:
I assume I'd have the option to access any resources I download to the phone when I'm not online. Is that accurate?

You can access downloaded resource when offline but some of the functions (such as accessing morph data, running Passage Guides and Text Comparisons) are only available when online as they are executed on Logos servers and the results are then displayed within the app on the mobile device

Paul DiCicco:
Can you show me any screenshots both on the computer and on the IOS app of how you can research root words in the original languages?

The first screenshot shows that when right-clicking on a word you can do subsequent searches against either the lemma or the root.

 

The second screenshot shows how a Bible Word Study conducted against a lemma then shows information about the root which can form the basis of subsequent search and analysis

These functions are available in Logos 5 (desktop) but not currently available on the mobile platforms.

Paul DiCicco:
Additionally, how easy is it to further research the morphological info in the tool? I don't have formal training in the original languages, so I'm looking for the ability to better understand things like the verb tense used in a given verse.

Verb tense - and other information - can be found by hovering over a word

 

and more detailed information can be found using tools such as the Information Panel & Exegetical Guide, 

 

All these functions are also just available on the desktop - not mobile devices.

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Melissa asplund | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 2 2013 3:59 AM

Hi! This is a thing I've tried to figure out. When I tap on a word on the Logos for IPhone App, the only thing that shows in the "black box" is "search the Bible" and "Bible word study on" and I can't see the Hebrew word and parsing at all. Do I need to download something else also. I don't have the Logos software on my computerThank formula 

Thankful for all help!!!

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 2 2013 5:55 AM

Melissa asplund:
I don't have the Logos software on my computer

Some of the features are only for users with a base package… Having the software on your computer is irrelevant… but it sounds like you don't have a base package either.

Melissa asplund:
When I tap on a word on the Logos for IPhone App, the only thing that shows in the "black box" is "search the Bible" and "Bible word study on" and I can't see the Hebrew word and parsing at all.

What translation are you using? What version of the app are you running? What device is it?

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Melissa asplund | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 2 2013 7:39 AM

Hi. Thank's for your reply! I'm currently having the ESV, English Standard Version, to change it is not a problem. I use the 3.2.3 app version on a Iphone 4S. I don't think I have the base package, I just downloaded the App and signed What is the base package, and how can you get it? 

And now when I tap on a word and push the "Look Up" it goes to some english dictionary.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 2 2013 9:40 AM

Melissa asplund:
I'm currently having the ESV, English Standard Version, to change it is not a problem. I use the 3.2.3 app version on a Iphone 4S. I don't think I have the base package, I just downloaded the App

This feature isn't available for non paying users, at least not with the ESV. If the feature were to work, it would likely be only with the Lexham English Bible, which Logos owns. You can try and see if it works. Since I actually own the resources, I can't trouble shoot that for you. Sorry! NOTE: You must be online for the feature to work… the search is performed on the Logos servers.

Melissa asplund:
And now when I tap on a word and push the "Look Up" it goes to some english dictionary.

This is the expected behavior when 1) you down own the proper resources or 2) you are offline.

Melissa asplund:
What is the base package, and how can you get it?

Logos has expanded into new markets, including mobile apps, Vyrso eBooks, and Faithlife study bible… (which is free right now, by the way). Historically, however, Logos has been high end Bible software for the PC (or more recently Mac) which focuses primarily on selling a library full of books. These are purchased through what they call "base packages." You can find out more HERE. If your primary usage is mobile, a base package probably isn't for you. The desktop software engine is free, however most of the features require the datasets and databases included in the base packages (or minimal cross grades). The ability to look up original language words, for example, requires a "reverse interlinear." I am not sure if Logos gives you that for the LEB as one of the free resources. 

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Melissa asplund | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 2 2013 11:40 AM

Okay, I think I get it ;). So if I for example buy the bronze package which include the hebrew and Greek language tools, that will make it work in the IPhone app? Otherwise not. The Lexham translation was available so I'm using that now. And your language tools are working on the app?

:)

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 2 2013 12:33 PM

Melissa - It sounds like you understand correctly. I will clarify one point though… The desktop app is the primary one. The mobile app is very useful (I use it everyday), but it isn't the same thing as L5, nor does it have all the same features. 

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