Newbies!!

Welcome to the forums! Come on in, make yourself comfortable, and get to know some other Logos Bible Software users!

With nearly 10,000 users this forum is a great place to get many of your questions answered, meet a lot of wonderful people, and learn many new tricks and tips from seasoned Logos users.

For starters tell us how long you have been a Logos user?
What kinds of resources or packages you own?
What kinds of tasks do you use your Logos software for?
And what is on your Logos wish list?

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Dave Smith

I've been using Logos for a few months. This is my first Bible software package I've used.
I have the home bible study package but I'm really considering upgrading. I want to learn how to get into the Greek and Hebrew and been looking at some of the commentaries in other packages.
I use Logos for my own devotional study. I'm a burnt out youth pastor who's been doing media production for the last 6 years. But I'm starting to feel the call to get back into a teaching ministry now that I've dealt with some sin in my life and established boundaries and accountability.
My first wish list for Logos is a fully functioning mac version of v4 but I already know it's on it's way. Beyond that I'd say better documentation/ training on not just what the program does but why you'd use it that way.

James Ogle

I have been using Logos for about six months.

I have the Leader Package but I will probably go to Scholar if I get enough money at Christmas. ( I need more greek and hebrew stuff) I also bought the Ironside bundle, Arthur W. Pink bundle, and The MacArthur lifework set.

Right now I have been using it for homework. I'm going to Moody Bible Institute online. It also helps in the small group I'm in.

My wishlist would probably be Calvin 500 set, and any conservitive commentary set (old school).

I have been reading the forum the last couple of weeks and there is a lot of good stuff. So thanks in advance!

Jayson Bradley

Dave,

Hey, thanks for chiming in! I just wanted to let you know that there is some wonderful training available. For starters there is the Logos 4 Bible Software Training Manual.

Beyond that, this forum, and the blogs have a lot of wonderful information to help you get the most out of your Logos 4 software.

Justin Moody

I just wanted to begin by thanking you Logos for putting out this amazing resource. I've used the software for about a year buying the Gold version not long after I accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as my savior. I'm sure we can all remember the enormous craving we had just after that amazing experience for His Word and this software really scratched that unquenchable itch. No matter what I'm doing at work or on my home desktop or laptop, I absolutely have to have Logos open, just in case. I recently found out about the cell phone service, making a good portion of our resources available to us where ever and when ever. It's all I can do to not read while driving.

I've always had a pleasant experience with the customer service, this resource itself is awesome, the prices are great......I really can't say enough!

I've been keeping up with the forums since November and plan on contributing to the community.

J. Morris

I've used the software for about a year buying the Gold version not long after I accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as my savior.

That is WONDERFUL!

II've been keeping up with the forums since November and plan on contributing to the community.

You just did contribute! Already encouraged me!

Stein Dahl

Hello, I'd describe myself as a "newbie" to Logos,

How long you
have been a Logos user?

I came across
Libronix 3 about 4 years ago when I bought the Norman Geisler Apologetics
Library at the local Christian bookstore here in town. And I’ve been adding on -
one resource at a time - and occasionally using it (although never really
learning to use its full potential) over the years.

In late November I went to
the Logos website just to see if there were any updates or new videos for
version 3 and found out about the new Logos 4.
I upgraded to the Logos 4 Scholars Library on the spot.

What kinds of
resources or packages you own?

Libronix 3:

Norman Geisler Apologetics Library
Nelson’s Ultimate Bible Reference Library
The Bill Bright Collection
Various other books I’ve added individually

Logos 4:

The Scholars Library (purchased in late November)

What kinds of tasks do you use your Logos software for?

The primary purpose for having Logos 4, for me, is to prepare sermons, and Bible studies for my church and small
group – as well as for personal study.

I actually use several Bible software packages for this
because they each have their strengths.
I am a long time WORDsearch 8, and PC Study Bible 5 user. I also use a couple of the best free ones – e-Sword and TheWORD.

But by far, Logos
is the best I’ve seen so far for in depth original language research. The only ones I think that can rival it are Accordance (for the Mac) and BibleWorks.

And what is on
your Logos 4 wish list?

My Wish list for Logos
4: (for now anyway)

Copy & Paste
- or - Export to word processor from ANY search window (i.e.; Search, Passage Guide, Exegetical Guide, etc.)
Better
functionality of the Handouts feature (so much cool potential there)
Make
it easier to just maximize or minimize any open resource (put access to it where new users are already accustomed to - by the "X-out")
More
instructional videos on Logos.com

sdahlinghwa

Lynn Diel

I have been watching and reviewing Logos for several years but not having the I have been a Logos user for about four days on a Mac. It is kind of like drinking from a fire hydrant (LOL!)

I previously have been using e-sword and quickverse both were out grown.

Personal study and will use it for teaching in small groups.

One thing I use via the web is Kretzmann commentaries and another is Thomas Constable's. While not on the high end of the scale, they are good to use for explaining things to others.

Thanks to all in advance

Blessings

Frank Bristow

Hi!

I bought and installed the Scholars edition of Logos 3 on October 26th and one week later they released Logos 4. What a surprise to get a new version so soon. [:)] So I've used Logos 4 for about a month and have lots to learn.

Right now I'm using it for my own personal Bible study and gave a demo of it at my church.

I've been reading the forums and the blogs.

My wish list is that the pre-pub version of the ESV study Bible notes is ready soon and that they get the Steve Green Midi Hymnal working in Logos 4 the way it does in Logos 3.

Jayson Bradley

It is wonderful to have you all aboard! Thanks for posting.

Joyce Johnson

started using in 07 I have the scholars V3 would love to learn more I use it for personal study now my desire is to use it for small group leader. wish list is upgrade to V4 silver or V3 silver.

Bryan Brodess

Hey, I purchased E-Bible deluxe a few years ago, Went to upgrade and stumbled onto Logos. Glad I did! Had the updates I have been looking for. and still get to use my libronix liscenses.

I have been a Logos user Less than a month. Have the "Bible Study" package ( All I could afford and it was my christmas present from my wife.." also bought moultan and milliagan, and have pre-pub on theyers ( which I hope comes out this time) My church is based on small Home groups. I teach about once a month on our home group, and lead a mens bible study so I will use this package alot!! Thanks LOGOS!!

J.R. Miller

Just wanted to pop in a say Hi to everyone. I have enjoyed reading all these updates. Very cool!!!

Stefán Féliz-Kent

Hey, all. It's great to have a community out there like this, with thousands of brothers and sisters in Christ who are lovingly willing to dialogue and share knowledge with others. It's how the Body should be! Thank you!

I've been using Logos for about 5 years now, though I still consider myself a somewhat-newbie, given that there is still much I have to learn. I've just recently (in the last year) started making use of what Logos offers online. Earlier this year I watched just about every training video there was for Logos 3, which was quite helpful. And now that I'm on vacation I plan to watch the Logos 4 videos. Just in the last month I crossgraded to Logos 4 and I don't quite like it yet. I'm just so used to 3. Anyone else had the same issue? Hopefully watching the videos will help get me more excited about it.

I own the Bible Study Library, Biblioteca Académica Bilingüe and Original Languages, and several other resources I've added.

I use Logos mainly for academic and personal study, but also for teaching prep. A little over 4 years ago I moved to Costa Rica where I've been studying for my Bachelor's in Bible with emphasis in missions. In January I'll be starting my Master's in NT. The libraries here lack many of the best resources available, so Logos has been excellent in providing those for me (at least the ones I can afford!).

My wish list:

Given the lack of good resources here, my wish list consists mainly of commentaries and dictionaries. I'd love to have NIGTC, EDNT, NIDNTT, NIDOTT, ISBE, the 4 volume IVP dictionary set (DNTB, DLNTD, DPL, DJG) and the top 3 or 4 best commentaries on each NT book. I'd also really like to have Philo and Josephus in Greek, The Early Church Fathers Protestant Edition, and perhaps some day, Patrologia Cursus Completus, Series Graeca, Part 1 (Vols. 1–18) and the rest. Not much, huh!

Comments/questions (I'm not sure where to send these, so I'm including them here):

I've noticed that not all my resources crossed over to v.4, for example Synopsis Quattuor Evangeliorum by Aland. Is that to be expected?
It would be great if v.4 had a menu option for Parallel Passages like v.3, where all the harmony and synopsis resources are automatically collected. Actually, it would be great if there were options under Text Comparison like in v.3.
I noticed that the NASB Concordance doesn't have a search window. That's an absolute must! I looked up a word the other day and had to select the letter, then the alphabetical word range where my word would be located, then select the actual word. In v.3 I just typed the word in the search window and it went right to it.

Sorry I wrote so much! I'm just excited about the forum and about meeting people here.

Geertruida Selter

I've been a logos user for about 10 years and updated each time when upgrades became available and each upgrade was an improvement on the older system. I've been building up my library gradually over the years, upgrading from one package to the other and now with Logos 4 upgraded to platinum. I'm using the pre-bub and community pricing to add books to my library.

I'm using Logos for my personal devotions as well as for study and preparing articles and group studies.

I'm at present trying to find my way around Logos 4, using it next to Libronix, one of the advices I found on one of the Logos 4 forums. It is a bit more difficult finding my way around it as a lot of things are different to Libronix. I do find the help section quite helpful in customising the home page. A lot of people did say on the logos 4 forums that the indexing took such a long time. I found that overnight all the work was done and everything worked smoothly.

It is too early days with Logos 4 for me to have a wish list, but the extension of the training video's to cover more features would not be a bad thing, though I surmise that you are working on that.

Before I stumbled in my local christian book store on Logos I'd been exploring and using other bible software, but even in the early days of Logos I found it to be better and easier to use than bible explorer and bible on line. Once I started using it, I am afraid I'm hooked for life on Logos.

lcl624

Hi. I have been using Logos for more than 20 years and I now use the Scholar's package, plus a number of items I have added over the years. I just installed Logos 4. I like what I find so far though it does take a little to get used to it. I am past 85 years of age and really like doing Greek and Hebrew personal translations using the Logos instruments.

I also have Steve Green's MIDI Hymnal. I like to turn to a hymn every day and sing along with the MIDI music (of course when no one can hear me!). However with Logos 4 I still haven't been able to get the MIDI music to function. Can someone tell me what I have to do.

By the way I live in Santa Cruz, Bolivia. My email address is lcl624 AT yahoo.com.

Damian McGrath

By the way I live in Santa Cruz, Bolivia. My email address is

LeRoy, click on the "More" button above your post, select edit and remove the "at" symbol from your email address and replace with the word "AT". This way, spambots can't scrape the site, find your address and send you lots of emails for medicinal products.

Rev. Scott W. Block

Hey, thanks for inviting the newbies. I started using Logos way back when it came on 3.5 floppy disks. Upgraded to three a few years back and have now upgraded to Scholar's Gold 4. Top notch program, none better. My resources number over a 1,000 now which is a great help. It's true, the more you own, the better the searches become. I am a Lutheran Pastor and use this program daily. I wish that some of the features come back, like sermon file, the addins I purchased for "reading" the Greek and Hebrew, not just pronouncing the words, and most of all, I miss the "scroll" function from my laptop touch pad to scroll the panels. Peace to all.

Rev. Scott Block

Shairon Dickey

I have been a Logos user for about 10 years, purchased Logos when it was on floppy's, have upgraded frequently, just recently purchased Logos 4 Gold.

I have not had the time to really get into it and learn all the in's and out's, but so far it is a little overwhelming, I'm sure as I get more aquainted with the program it will be as wonderful as Logos 3 is. I have attended several of Morris Proctor's seminars for L3, he is an excellent instructor.

I mainly use Logos for my personal Bible Study. My wish list would be that after attending several of the seminars there would be a price break for any additional instruction seminars. I am grateful for the privlege of being able to have such a great tool to study the Word of God and the resources for training.

Thanks to all who work so hard to provide these resources.

God Bless

Shairon

I have been a Logos user for 7 years or more.

I have the Leaders Library and it is awesome and overwhelming. I am frustrated by my lack of real use of so much information. I have a Bible reading plan and devotionals that I read most every day. I use Logos for teaching Sunday School and other Bible studies but it seems that so much is wasted because of lack of real understanding of how to use properly.

I have registered for the Camp Logos in Las Vegas on February 4-5, 2010. I'm hoping that will get me to make the most of this tool to be a "Kingdom builder."

Mark Watson

Jayson,

I am one of the many newbies to the forums. I just searched the forums for information about "collections" and found a couple of great user videos. Below are the answers to your questions to us newbies:

1. I became a Logos user when I found a green box called the Logos Bible Software Collection on one CD ROM. It had the Logos Family Bible Software, Logos Bible Crosswords, In His Time - the Christian personal information manager (PIM) for Windows, The One Minute Bible, and Logos Bible Screen Saver, and "the link together using Windows DDE." [I still have the box; not that good of a memory!] It has a newspaper in it from Logos dated 1995.

2. I have 2,629 resources in Logos 4 with my upgrade from Gold to Platinum. I have purchased many of my resources listed below through boxed products, Library Builder Specials, etc:

Charles Stanley LifeWorks Library, Christian History & Biography Magazine, Columbia Encyclopedia, ESV Demo CD, Getting to Know Jesus Bible Study, Interpretation Bible Commentary - Old Testament (ver. 2), Interpretation Commentary - New Testament, John Piper Collection, Library Builder Combo 2007: Volumes 4-6, Library Builder: Volume 1, Library Builder: Volume 2, Library Builder: Volume 3, Library Upgrade (3.0c), Lucado LifeWorks Library, McGee LifeWorks Library, Ministry Letters, Nelson's Annual Preacher's Sourcebook, 2008 edition, Nelson's Annual Preacher's Sourcebook, 2009 edition, New International Version, NLT Study Bible, OT NT Exegesis, Preacher's Commentary (LDLS 3.0), Scholar's Library, Scholar's Library: Gold, Sermon File, Sermons from John Piper, Standard Lesson Commentary, 2004-2005, Standard Lesson eCommentary, 2005-2006, Standard Lesson eCommentary, 2006-2007, Standard Lesson eCommentary, 2007-2008, Standard Lesson eCommentary, 2008-2009, Standard Lesson eCommentary, 2009-2010, Standard Reference Library: New Testament Collection, Standard Reference Library: Old Testament Collection, The Jeremiah LifeWorks Library, The Jeremiah LifeWorks Library, Version 2, The MacArthur LifeWorks Library, The MacArthur LifeWorks Library, Version 2 (LDLS 3.0), The Thomas Nelson Bible Study Library, Upgrade Scholar's Library (RA) to Scholar's Library Silver Edition, Wesley/Clarke Collection, Wesleyan-Arminian Collection (LDLS 3.0), Word Biblical Commentary 58-Volume Set (LDLS 3.0)

3. I am a United Methodist pastor and use Logos almost every day for preparing sermons, Bible studies, Sunday School classes, for my personal devotions, and for my continuing education classes.

4. Abingdon Publishers ( a very big wish at this time), the Wesleyan Commentary Series, maybe even Alistair Begg's sermons from Truth for Life being converted to Logos, and someday the upgrade to Portfolio. I just could not find the funds to move from Platinum to Portfolio at this time. Also the ESV Study Bible notes.

A couple of items that would be of great benefit to me if someone had an answer for

a) how to use the Handouts video

b) more information on how Morris Proctor's Quick Files I and II can be adapted to Logos 4

May God bless all of the Logos users with a fire for spreading the gospel message this season!

Michael F Storz

Thank you Jayson for your encouragement.

I have been a Logos user for several years but have just fumbled my way through this. I started with a Theological Journal CD (#1 & 2 I think), Discipleship Journal and McArthur's first CD. I wound up purchasing the Original languages package and have been adding language resources along with commentaries, dictionaries and encyclopedia resources when I can afford them. I am not interested in the books of the other series so I plan on sticking with the languages as long as Logos supports it.

I use Logos for personal bible study and may someday teach.

My wish list has research books on it. I am excited to see the partnership with Zondervan publishering and am looking forward to replacing my hard copy encyclopedia and other resources when it finally comes out. Oh, I almost forgot, I would like to attend a couple of the Logos camps as well. I almost had the money to attend the last one in the Sacramento area but I bought books instead. Oh well...

I think Erasmus said, "When I receive money I buy books and if there is any left over I buy food!" I think that is pretty much what I think too!

Bryan Brodess

Hi Michael,

Sounds like what I am doing. Although I wonder why the origional languages is not offered the "upgrade" option like the other are. If I can upgrade to leaders for 51 dollars. But must pay the whole price - 25% for the languages version.. Would love to upgrade to the languages..

Fred Anderson

My name is Fred Anderson. I'm a newbie to the forums even though I've been a Logos user for more than twenty years. I just upgraded to Logos 4, Scholar's Gold edition. I mostly use Logos for my personal Bible study and for blogging. I sometimes use the original languages in my study, but I could use some help in utilizing these resources more efficiently. What's on my Logos wish list? Right now, I'm saving up for the Logos edition of Karl Barth's Church Dogmatics. [8-|]

David L. Garlich

Pastor Dave. Been a logos user since the days of 3.5 disketts. I believe the version was 1.2, perhaps 1.6 - trying to remember, I think it's been about a dozen years. Love it. I continued to update through the years, and until the recent edition of L4, I was using Libronix 3 Scholars Library. My wife use to complain of books all over the table at home, but since Logos, my books are primarily on the computer, and she loves me for having it.

I may be "old" with Logos, but new with blogging. I need all the help i can get. I use Logos for ALL my sermon and lesson preparation. I have 5 lessons/messages a week to prepare, and an additional Bible study or two at times. Without Logos ability to put all my resources at my fingertips with lightning speed, I'd leave my dear folk starving for a solid, balanced, spiritual diet.

The hours Logos saves me each lesson is used to minister in other, more "material" ways. It has been healthy for our church to have a pastor who "isn't available because he has to study now". I am able to study in the wee hours of the morning, on the road, or sitting at the hospital with a family member.

About L4. I liked my 3, so I reserve comment until I have a chance to learn to use for as effeciently as my 3. I'm not a young man any more, so learning new languages is not easy, and for is a new language for me.

TCBlack

A couple of items that would be of great benefit to me if someone had an answer for a) how to use the Handouts video

Welcome Mark (and all) to the forums, please join in the fun, there's lots to learn here. As for a handouts video, I made a quick and dirty one. There's a handouts link in my sig, look on the third page of that post I think and you'll see my video. The handouts have lots of potential if you're willing to work with it's idiosyncrasies.

Jayson Bradley

I cannot tell you how excited I am to see all these posts! I am doubly excited that so many are from first time posters, that is simply fantastic. Way to step it up you guys! Welcome, once again, to the community . . . there is a lot of great people here and tons of information.

Make sure, if you have specific questions, to make use of the "Search this site" function in the upper right hand corner. You will find that someone has probably thought to ask the same question before you. You can always start a thread of your own and solicit questions from some of these amazing users.

Thanks again for checking out the forums, we're glad you are here

Ronnie James

Greetings Jayson,

Great idea of yours this open invitation to all us 'newbies' out there. After reading through the latest posts I can see that, like me, a lot of you are new to the forums but not so new to Logos in general. We're a right ol' mish-mash of a bunch.....but we all have one thing in common, appreciation for Logos Bible Software.

I myself jumped on the Logos band-wagon in September of last year with the Scholar's Library package under the 3.0x version. After a year of bouncing between using and studying the contents of my library and getting to grips with the finer elements of the software, what does Logos go and do? It goes and releases a major upgrade to V4 of the software.....not that I'm complaing in any way! After doing a bit of research on what the new version had to offer, I decided to do a straight swap-over to the Scholar's Library V4 in early November. The additional books that went along with the upgrade far out weighed the cost involved in the cross-over, and I get a 'leaner and meaner' product to boot. I would love to have gone for the Scholar's Library:Gold but my budget dictates otherwise.

Along with the various freebies that Logos has given us over the past year and a bit, I've also added Day One Creation and Science Collection, Moody History Maker Collection and Word Biblical Collection to my library. I'm also currently awaiting delivery of the John MacArthur Essential Bible Study Library. Next year I plan to save up some more of my pennies and get the John Piper Collection. The major item on my wish list though is nothing Logos can help me with! What I'd personaly find extreamly useful would be a nice new shiny lap-top computer. With one wife and six siblings to feed and water on a daily basis then that item is on the far distant horizon.

My main use of the software is for personal Bible study and I love the idea that I can do all of this without cluttering up by study area with a number of paper books opened up all over my desk.....I just close the software and they'll be neatly tucked away awaiting my next study session. I've got all faith and trust in my new version but still have 3.0x installed on my desktop computer - don't want to lose all my notes etc. until V4 has the facility to transport them across.

There's so much more to tell.....but I'll leave that for some future posting. 'Till then I wish you all well where ever you may be.

Mark Watson

Thomas, thanks for the video. I have downloaded all of the .pbb resources from your Truth is Still Truth site back in the 3.0 days. Keep up the good works.

David Beard

Jayson--thanks for the welcome...just finished loading the scholars program and LOVE it. Have owned some smaller libronix packages before, but have just gotten back to teaching some Sunday School, and had really lost track of my programs...this new Logos takes me to a whole new level! Here is my first question that I haven't seen in the training videos. When I add my own notes to a Bible verse, is there a way to make it flow through to all the Bible versions? or only to the preferred Bible that I highlight...As far as the wish list, would love to have the MacArthur Commentary set, but maybe later...

Adam Carrigan

* Been using Logos for approx 2yrs. Given Scholars Gold by a very generous person who didn't even know me but had a heart to serve pastors (also sent me to Camp Logos training).

* Also own Sermon File Add-in, Lucado Lifeworks, and one of the deluxe map packages.

* Use all this for personal study, sermon prep, and lesson prep (Sunday school)

* Wish list: Precept Ministries materials (Kay Arthur and others). Also, Logos 4 upgrade (currently I'm unemployed, so it doesn't seem prudent to invest now, though I'd really like to).

Donald E. Stidwell

Well, I'm the newbiest of the newbies! I just purchased the Bible Study collection yesterday (the price was irresistable).

I'm actually primarily a Mac user and use Accordance on my Macs. However, I wanted a great Bible Study program for my one Windows machine and decided on Logos because the consensus I had read pegged Logos as the best of the best for Windows Bible software.

Logos is totally unlike any other Bible study software I've ever used and I'm still getting my head around it, but I really do like what I see so far and am very impressed. My only issue is that my Windows box is a netbook so it is a little slow, but not unusable by any means.

I was pleasantly surprised to find that I can use my library on both my iPhone & my Mac. Wow - now that's value! The Mac program isn't nearly feature complete enough yet to even come close to supplanting Accordance, but I can certainly see its great potential and I'll be looking forward to seeing it grow to be as good as the Windows version. But as I have stated, I'm totally wowed by the ability to use my resources on three platforms - not to mention the value of the package I bought. To say I'm impressed is an understatement.

Good job, folks. Glad to be onboard with Logos and it will definitely get a workout on my Windows machine until the Mac version is up to par. Thanks for an impressive program and unmatched flexibility in cross-platform usage.

Noel A Ramsey

1. I have been a Logos user since early 2006.

2. Currently, I own the Logos Gold edition, but will be upgrading to the Platinum within a few days.

3. I have found Logos Bible Software EXTREMELY helpful in my studies at university. I am working towards the completion of an honors double major in Religious Studies and History, specializing in the formation of the early Church.

In addition, I have found Logos to be an indispensable tool that God continues to use in my spiritual formation as well as in my Bible Studies. It is an INCREDIBLE tool for studying God's Word.

4. I have only one Logos package on my Christmas list because of its cost - the Hermeneia CD-ROM collection. It is an amazing resource and I hope that my friends and family will help me shoulder the burden.

Sharon

Hi Jayson and everyone!

LOGOS user: I have used Logos since a dear man came to CCC summer training in Ft. Collins, CO, possibly 1992? to sell his Bible Study Software (can't remember his name, I thought it was a Mr. Pritchard, but Bob's picture is way too young to be him. I thought he had a beard. Hmmm...I'd know him if I saw him!) Anyway, I had just really learned how to do word studies at that time, and I kept telling him I wanted, no needed, the Zodhiates books; he patiently assured me they would come in their time. I trusted him, trusted the concept, (Logos didn't have anything in print to learn from) and longed for access into more of God's Word, so I bought the software and have hung on for the remarkable ride all these years. I have gone to Morris' seminars a couple of times and have come home fervently praying for wisdom to use what I had learned.

RESOURCES: Too, too, too many to list. I have purchased many of the sets of conservative commentaries through the years, Grammar, Interlinears, Surveys, and as many Theological and Lexical aids, etc. as possible. A few of my favorites for enjoyable reading are Pink and Calvin and Wuest. I have Platinum and have upgraded to L4. I think I already love it!

TASKS: I teach Bible classes and How to study the Bible classes. I use Logos for all parts of studying that come after I have scoured each book of the Bible for weeks--just me and God, just sitting at His feet listening, listening, listening, ever so closely to His every voice... Just like shepherdess, I check out all the available pasture I can for a flock, and then bring them to it so they may eat. Logos helps me to check out more pastureland.

LOGOS LIST: A few of the bigger sets of commentaries that I have missed through the years on pre-pub NICOT & NICNT... Oh, and I missed Ironside... and, okay, I would love the Portfolio!

I'm thankful for the invitation to join you all.

In all I do and say...about my Father's business...

Sharon

Andrew Loney

I don't consider my self a newbie although I haven't posted often.
I've been using Logos since version 2.0 (came with diskettes), starting with Level 2. I upgraded to Scholar's Library when version 3 came out. Now I've upgraded to Platinum with version 4. I've purchased a number of other resources as well for a total of 1389 resources in v4 (about 100 more in version 3).

I'm very interested in the original languages, in particular Greek. I'm teaching myself Greek using the tools and resources in Logos. Not very quickly, mind you, but I have had occasion to realize that I've learned more than I think. Not only of languages, but of the amazing history of biblical studies in its incredibly varied forms.

Getting up to speed with Logos4 is a mixed bag of surprises, struggles, aha's, searching, finding and not finding, exploring, frowning and smiling. I miss some of the features in Logos3 that either haven't made it into Logos4 or I haven't figured out. I know there's some of both. I recall that I spent a good bit of time figuring out Logos3 and I'm confident that I will eventually be as comfortable in Logos4 as I am in now in Logos3. In the process.

Logos4 does a lot more automatically for me than Logos3. This is wonderful and at the same time frustrating when it doesn't do what I wanted. I don't feel like I have as much control. This is particularly evident when I'm looking up something about a word or subject in a resource I'm reading. Sometimes, no references are shown even though I know they exist in my library. I've noticed this particularly with non-english language words.

My wishes:
Lower prices.
Ability to store/cache books on the iphone. The current process of loading books online nearly cripples my ability to use Logos4 on the iphone. I live in a location where the phone network is not fast enough to support this kind of data connection.
Ability to remove books from the bookshelf on the iphone.
Split screen capability on the iphone.
Ability to take notes and highlight on the iphone.

I look forward to the continuing improvements. Thank you and God bless.

Adam Carrigan

Sharon, I resonate with your method of Bible study and preparation to teach (spend lots of time with God in the text before consulting other resources). It reminds me of my own training in Bible college, what I've found most helpful, and what I saw in a dear lady and gifted teacher at our last church.

Question: What do you use for teaching "How to Study the Bible"? That is one of my passions, and I'm interested in building my knowledge base of how to do it.

- Adam

gkp

Hi Jayson and Group, I have been using Logos since 9/05---it was my retirement present to myself and I keep adding books. I have the Leader's package and my favorite thing has been the ability to add the lifeworks libraries of my favorite authors so I have David Jeremiah, Vernon McGee, and John McArthur. I love Logos 4 now that I have figured out how to copy verses. I use Logos to help me with the on line mentoring that I do for Truthmedia (Campus Crusade for Christ) so I am always using search, copy and paste to easily add Scripture to my mentoring responses. I use it for my personal Bible Study and love that I can now make a reading plan for any book. My wish list would be having the ability to set the time that updates are downloaded because we have no limits from 2 AM to 6 AM but have limits during the day (satellite internet). Logos has the best tech help and customer service I have ever experienced! You guys are the best!

Lynn A. Sullivan

Hi! I'm Lynn from Upstate New York and have been a very happy and satisfied customer of Logos since about 1995 when my daughter & son-in-law gave me a very early version (could it have been the first?) as a Christmas gift. I have been an avid Bible student for MANY years, and Logos has been with me right through my call to pastoral ministry, seminary and 12 years of serving churches!

Yes, I am a newbie at forums (have read them but rarely post). Thank you for the invite! I look forward to gaining confidence in this regard

I own too numerous resources and packages to list here, but I will mention that I upgraded to Logos 4 Gold Scholar from Logos 3 Gold Scholar. I have Max Lucado's collection as well as others (Jeremiah, MacArthur, & Sproul). Word Commentary is just the best for commentaries.

I use my Logos software for sermon prep, Bible study, for personal spiritual growth (devotions, Bible reading, books on Christian living) & for professional growth (leadership series, etc.). This year I am doing an advent devotional (on my Kindle) and writing my reflections ( Logos note file) in a layout with just 2 Bible versions. I have never done this before and I am so happy to be able to do it this way.

Hmmmm, my Logos wish list: Well, I already have some of that waiting in the wings on pre-pub, but I am wishing that the sermon & illustration file would be available (I hear it's coming soon). I would also like to be able to access the video series, The Greatest Book, in Logos 4 and be able to project for a class rather than have just for personal use. I also wish book reader (Kindle, Nook, ereader, etc) applications could be linked or imported - with proper citations, of course! - so that things like my Advent devotional could all be in one place for cohesive and future reference. Now that I am using more digital based reading media I miss all the highlighting and scribbled notes in my paper-bound issues. I would love to have all my digital books in one "library" on my computer (could Logos partner with amazon.com in some way?) I'm also wishing for Logos on my Blackberry Tour....

Thanks so much for this opportunity to brag on Logos. I have been amazed at the company's growth and so appreciative of all the ways the folks at Logos have responded to and supported their constituency. God bless your ministry!

Daisy

This really is a great place to go for help and encouragement. I have had Logos 3 Gold for about a year and a half. And I definitely cannot yell loud enough about how much I love that program. I have used a lot of different Bible software but Logos 3 is extremely, exponentially better than all other software out there!

I just upgraded from L3 Gold to L4 Platinum. I posted a query on this forum about my struggles with Logos4 right before I saw your posting. I am having a hard time with L4. I like L3 only having 2 columns and the tabs at the bottom allowing you to go from book to report etc., easily. I also loved L3's ESV Interlinear. L4's interlinear is so small and I keep looking up and down, up and down to figure the words out. I am terribly new at this, there is probably a way to fix it or change it....I don't know. And that's just it. I need to learn all this that I don't know. I have gone thru a few of the training videos but still need to finish what Logos has provided. I know the video lessons for Logos 3 were wonderful!

I use my software for studying my Bible. I used to teach Sunday school and Precept Inductive Studies whiles back. I am disabled now and I haven't been able to go to church, bible studies, etc... for a long time. Logos 3 has enabled me though to grow closer to my Lord...I know that sounds hokey but when I am studying and all that info is so readily available, I get so excited that I stay in His Word longer and I feel His presence so strong,

My wish list was recently fulfilled when Logos made the Jensen's Survey of the Old and New Testaments. I would love for Logos to publish Precept Workbooks and also Watchman Nee books.

Ellie Sullivan

Adam --

Have you ever investigated Precept Ministry's "Teach Me to Study the Bible in 28 Days" by Kay Arthur? It is the BEST methodology I have ever encountered. I've been using it for 10 years and have come to know the Lord through His word. It goes hand-in-hand with Logos resources too...word studies, using commentaries, etc.

- Ellie

Sharon

Sharon, I resonate with your method of Bible study and preparation to teach
(spend lots of time with God in the text before consulting other
resources). It reminds me of my own training in Bible college, what I've
found most helpful, and what I saw in a dear lady and gifted teacher at our
last church.

Question: What do you use for teaching "How to Study the
Bible"? That is one of my passions, and I'm interested in building
my knowledge base of how to do it.

- Adam

Adam,

There is nothing more needful! Your heart is blessed!

Precept
Ministries has many useful training helps and I encourage you to
take advantage of as many of them as you can!
The more you learn how to
study-the more you will learn as you
study! I especially recommend going to Chattanooga TN and attending their training workshops; they have much more available on campus than around the country. You will be so blessed!

Now...I tried to learn how to study the Bible inductively through Dr. James McCaan
(excellent teacher) but I didn't quite get it, all I remembered was “whole-part-whole”.
Then I took training classes through Precept Ministries and the lights came
on! Kay Arthur learned how to study through Irving Jensen's method of
independent Bible study. His book called "Independent Bible
Study", Kay's book on "How to Study the Bible", Fee &
Stuart's book "How to read the Bible for all its worth" and Robertson
McQuilkin's "Understanding and Applying the Bible" all have
invaluable information. I believe some of these are available through Logos.

Adam, no matter where I go, whenever I talk to people, most, most, most do not know how
to study the Bible! They know what they think the Bible says, but they
don't know what it says for themselves. They have "done" a Study Book
about Romans or taken a class on Romans, but they have not studied
Romans! Does that make sense?

I grew up in church, and absorbed all there was around me, but sadly, no one
really knew His Word. They knew things His Word said, or things that were
said about His Word, but not His Word, His logos. When the lights came on
during one of Precept's training workshops I was dumbfounded, astounded,
and humbled! I set my heart
like Ezra (7:10), to study His Word, to obey His Word, and to teach His
Word. Ezra's mission to Israel became my mission to "pew
people" - people who had sat in pews all their lives, and yet just like
me, did not know the Word of God or the God of the Word.

I won't elaborate anymore, you asked, “What do I use for teaching?” Well,
I ask people to start at the beginning, ask them to be willing to empty their cup,
so to speak, of all they think they know about Truth, and ask them to come to
God, in His Word, and ask God to teach them Truth. If what they had in
their cup was Truth, God will put it right back in! No threat!

I then take them through a passage, showing them how to ask it the questions
it knows by interrogating the text. Sometimes I will ask them to consider
what they believe about a certain passage and then take them to that passage,
asking them to observe it closely to see if what they believe is really what it says.
Many times this method will "back people out of their parking space"
so to speak. And again, if what they study in the Word of God themselves
puts them back into that same parking space, great! Now they can know
that they believe what the Bible says and not what someone else has taught
them.

One indispensable
skill is observing the text of the Bible itself. We live such fast paced lives that we seldom
sit down and observe anything with our full interest. When you observe a book of the Bible, you need to give it your complete attention; it will take time and it will
take effort. Observing is done best with
a pencil in hand, making notes of what you see.
You will see words and phrases that are repeated, lists, contrasts,
comparisons, and many other types of categories. The observation process should take as long
as possible. It is the most profitable, both for knowledge and for faith!

Next, I try to convince students to believe that
"Context is King!" As students observe, they must remember to
keep everything they read in its context. Each word dwells in an
environment of a sentence; each sentence dwells in a paragraph or chapter; each
chapter dwells in a book. And of course, each book dwells in one of two
testaments and each testament dwells in the glorious environment of the whole
counsel of the Word of God!

God gave us His Word book by book, so we must study it book by book.
Seems simple, but it is so often neglected.

You cannot preach expositionally until you have studied
inductively! The Bible must be our primary source, not any other work. I will, in due progress, teach students how
to cross-reference and do word studies; both have their place. That is when
Logos comes in - a wonderful array of tools and helps at your fingertips!

I am sorry I wrote so much, but I love Him so…and I desire that everyone
would listen to Him…

If you have any questions, please ask, because, although I wrote a long reply, there is
so much more that could be said.:-)

About my Father's business...

Sharon

Jeffery Bentley

Jayson,

Thanks for starting this thread. I have been using Logos for about 2 years. I started with Logos3 Christian Home Library. I loved it but the base

package was a little small. Since I am now a student I upgraded at a discount for being an upgrader and a student. I also bought Morris's training

manuals this time. I got the Scholars Library and I am overwhelmingly pleased with the whole package. I decided I did not want to haul the whole thing

over the internet download so I had to wait only 3 days to get the disk. I ordered the manuals over the phone and got them on Saturday. The lady was really nice

and customer support at Logos has been great! I had to call twice because my laptop has internet but my desktop is not hooked up(I am on a budget) so I go to the coffee shop to do my internet with my laptop. I only had to wait about 15 minutes each time which is not too bad for how busy they have been lately. I highly recommend Morris's manuals. I now know how to read the interlinear codes on my Bibles. I still use Esword as my number 2 program but this is definitely the Caddy and Ferrari of packages all rolled into one. The maps are awesome. THE BEST MAPS you can find right now that I know of.

Ellie Sullivan

AMEN, Sharon!!! A woman after my heart!!!!

Rory M Lennox

How long have I been a Logos user? I'm not sure. I know that I have gone through three upgrades. It seems like it has to be 4 or 5 years but I am not sure. Clearly I have spend too much on books. I received my Logos 4 yesterday and it has been working on my library for almost 24 hours and it says that I have 4 + hours till it is done indexing. I am a pastor and so I have used Logos as my primary sermon preparation software. I do a lot of stuff that just satisfies my own curiosity about things I do not exactly understand. At the moment from what I have seen I think 4 is going to supply most if not all the things I have wanted but was too afraid to ask. :'). Well. a bucket full of patience might help as I wait for 4 to become fully functional.

Fred Anderson

Thanks for the suggestion, Ellie. I'll check it out.

CharlesJ

Hello all:

I am a new user (?) to Logos. I put the question mark because I don't know if you want to call me "new" or not because I did purchase Logos on diskette many years ago. Instead of updating, I went to another bible software (BibleWorks) for about ten years or so. Instead of upgrading the BibleWorks I decided to go back to Logos Scholar version.

I will use Logos mainly to do word studies and put lessons together.

I am retired from IBM and have a lot of time on my hands. I do walk 5 miles per day (6 days week). I live in San Antonio, Tx.

MERRY CHRISTMAS to all.

Charles

Pastor Mark Stevenson

I have been with a Logos for quite a few years. I just upgraded to the Logos 4 and I love it. I have a the Leaders program and it is really just about enough for me. I don't really use it the way I would like to. I am a Pastor and am learning the program every time I turn it on. I turn it on every day.

I like the republishing and a lot of the box they are putting on the net and making available. Their PR is very good and service is excellent. A great organization and top quality program.

I sound like I should be working for this company. LOL!

Tim Hogan

I have been a Logos user since 96 (Level 2) floppy drive (what?)

Just got Logos 4 Port. and enjoy it, esp. with Libronix close by for now.

Look forward to being recommitted to sitting in front of the computer.

Peace

Lester W. Allen

three year logos user

Gold Package

bible study, teaching, preaching

At some point platinum package after that individual books

John Graves

I am a pastor and seminary student and I...

I have been a logos user for about 4 years, since I started seminary.

I own The Platinum library with various addins like Boice's commentarys

I use Logos for sermon,bible study prep on a daily basis, in fact this program is on more than any other on my cpu.

I have tried not to wish for anything new for a while. I told my wife to tell me know no matter what after I upgraded to platinum. though I would probably have to buy the Reformed Expository Commentary Set if it ever came available through logos.

G Richard Powell

I've been using Logos for about 16 years. I still have my original package on an old Dell desktop, although I haven't pulled it up for years. I have L3 on a 5-year old Compaq laptop and on a new HP laptop. I still go to it frequently when I can't seem to get the hang of L4. L4 Platinum is installed on the HP and the Compaq. I'm up to somewhere north of 2700 resources. I am a ordained minister for 54 years and pastor for 25 of those years. My work for the past 15 years of retirement has been hospital chaplaincy. My Bible study now is to primarily support Sunday School teaching among Seniors. Several years ago I gave away most of my print library with a purpose to switch to an e-library which I could more easily fit into retirement housing.

I have three or four areas of interest: Hebrew language; Messianic Judaism; Sermon collections of the "old" preachers, such as Barnhouse and Lloyd-Jones (they knew how to do it); and the theological journals.

L4 is still clunky, but Logos has a history of doing it right, so I expect they will smooth out this new one; I've got L3 in the wings if I get into a jam.

Richard

Randy O'Brien

I've been using Logos since v1.6 so that goes back a ways. I've upgraded piece by piece year by year adding individual resources, collections and upgrades along the way. I'm now using L4 platinum. I've been using logos for sermon prep, teaching prep, and it has been helpful in my DMin studies.

I wish that logos and Endnote would play nice together for footnoting and bibliographic support. I also would love to see resources available on a Kindle, Nook, or Sony reader for devotional use. I have an ipod touch, but that's a bit tiny for early morning devotional reading and the laptop just seems like overkill.

I must say that I've really enjoyed this latest version. I've been reading posts from some folks that have experienced problems. I've had none of those - just the normal learning curve of refinding all my favorites and new ways to do things. I suspect that in short order I'll be back up to full speed and beyond. Thanks, logos, for putting this out. It's amazing.

David McKay

G'day

My name's David McKay and I have been using Logos for maybe 10 years or a little longer.

I was pleased to discover I could upgrade to Logos 4 without buying anything, due to the kindness of one of your staff, who pointed this out.

[I did not see this trumpeted in the advertising for the new Logos 4 stuff, though!]

I'm enjoying using my old Logos 3 ebooks in Logos 4.

Logos 4 tells me I have 400 books. I would never have realised it was that many.

I have never owned any of Logos own packages, partly because I use BibleWorks and see a lot of duplication between the two and see that many of the ebooks available in the lower priced Logos packages would either be included also in BibleWorks and be freely available on the net, or both.

I enjoy using The Expositors Bible Commentary, Word Biblical Commentary, the IVP Essential Reference package and some of the Galaxie theological journal packages.

Robert E Fuller

I have used Logos since version 1. I have the scholars' pkg and many add-ons. I prepare sermons, primarily. I also research questions of my own and that other folks ask me. The best addition, from my point-of-view would be Lenski's commentaries.

Aaron

I've been a Logos user since 2004.

Resources and packages are as follows:

Gold Logos 4
Socio-Rhetorical Commentary Series (8 Vols.) [DOWNLOAD]
Baker Counseling Collection (3 Vols.)
The Complete Works of Francis A. Schaeffer (22 Titles in 5 Vols.)
Theological Lexicon of the New Testament (3 Vol.)
Theological Lexicon of the Old Testament (3 Vol.)
BDAG/HALOT Bundle
Violence and the Bible Collection (2 Vols.)
Baptism Collection (3 Vols.)
Bible and the Arts Collection
The Actuality of Atonement
History of the Jewish People in the Time of Jesus Christ
Sermon File Addin
Library Builder: Volumes 1-3

I use Logos for personal study, sermon preparation and lesson preparation. I also have read some books in their entiety.

On my wishlist are as follows: Baker Hermeneutics Collection, Early Judaism Bundle, NICOT/NICNT commentary set, Treasury of Great preaching set and the Scholar's Bundle.

Bohuslav Wojnar

I've been a Logos user since 2004.

Resources and packages are as follows:

Gold Logos 4

Socio-Rhetorical Commentary Series (8 Vols.) [DOWNLOAD]

Baker Counseling Collection (3 Vols.)

The Complete Works of Francis A. Schaeffer (22 Titles in 5 Vols.)

Theological Lexicon of the New Testament (3 Vol.)

Theological Lexicon of the Old Testament (3 Vol.)

BDAG/HALOT Bundle

Violence and the Bible Collection (2 Vols.)

Baptism Collection (3 Vols.)

Bible and the Arts Collection

The Actuality of Atonement

History of the Jewish People in the Time of Jesus Christ

Sermon File Addin

Library Builder: Volumes 1-3

I use Logos for personal study, sermon preparation and lesson preparation. I also have read some books in their entiety.

On my wishlist are as follows: Baker Hermeneutics Collection, Early Judaism Bundle, NICOT/NICNT commentary set, Treasury of Great preaching set and the Scholar's Bundle.

Great stuff. Congratulations. Just one question. What you mean by saying you have a "Gold Logos 4" and than you say in your wish list you would like to have a Scholar's Bundle?

Aaron

It's this scholar reference bundle.

Matthew C Jones

I recently found out about the cell phone service, making a good portion of our resources available to us where ever and when ever. It's all I can do to not read while driving.
I've been keeping up with the forums since November and plan on contributing to the community.

Hey JustinMoody,

Welcome. I like your avatar. What kind of plane is that? [ap] Do you get to pilot that beautiful aircraft? If you do, don't try reading your Logos books unless you have auto-pilot. [:D]

Matthew C Jones

What kinds of resources or packages you own?

Libronix 3:

Norman Geisler Apologetics Library

Nelson’s Ultimate Bible Reference Library

The Bill Bright Collection

Various other books I’ve added individually

Stein,

I am blessed with having the Bill Bright Collection too. That is hard to find lately. I'm a fan of apologetics materials and wanted to let you know about the new Norman Geisler Collection that is in Pre-Pub right now: http://www.logos.com/products/prepub/details/5665

If you are so inclined you can save a bundle on new resources by placing orders while they are in Pre-Publication. If you aren't familiar with "Pre-Pubs" and "Community Pricing " run searches on them or find them from the left column in the product page. Pardon me if you already know all this. I just didn't want you to miss out on saving money on titles you may purchase anyway.

Joe Borden

I've been a Logos user all of a month now and love it, although I feel like I'm driving a race car and haven't figured out how to shift. I use it for personel study and small group teaching. Other resources are the Kistemaker and Matthews commentaries and some online resources. I bought Logos to study more of the Greek and Hebrew, so I look forward to the new lesson series.

On my wish list - the entire library of Andrew Murray and to attend one of the Camp Logos trainings this year.

Merry Christmas, and thanks for all you do!

Russell Frame

Hi, my name is Russ and I'm a parachute, tent-making church planter in north Idaho.

For starters tell us how long you have been a Logos user?

I've used Libronix for a few years, but only had some basic
reference tools and English translations (I didnt have a Logos base
package).

What kinds of resources or packages you own?

I recently purchased Logos 4 Scholars library as I realized the
value
of having a good reference system to maximize the use of the very
limited time I have for study. I love it so far. Prior to buying a
package I had a NAS reference library and the Nelson's reference
library. I also just
purchased the IVP Reference Collection on the Logos 12-day Christmas
special but it will be a few days before that arrives and I can take a
look at it.

What kinds of tasks do you use your Logos software for?

Devotional study, sermon preparation, discipleship resource preparation.

And what is on your Logos wish list?

The IVP Reference
Collection was on my wish list until yesterday when it popped up on Christmas special, so I got that. Of course, additional good
commentaries would always be a welcome addition, but nothing specific on my wish list right now.

Hollis McGehee

I have been using logos for quite a number of years, probably @ 12 years; i have version four, platinum; i use the software for my personal study, prayer (praying scripture back to God), sermon preparation. I don't know enough to answer the last question, still trying to figure out all that is available now. i went to the first version 4 training and learned a lot but haven't had a chance to put it to use enough and losing a lot but still plugging away.

Does the application for ipod touch have all the functionality of my computer, more or less or is it just the iphone that has that?

Hollis McGehee

McComb, MS

Geertruida Selter

I am mising a feature in Logos 4. Where has the verse list and the vocabularly list gone too. I looked at the F1 help feature, but could not find it there. So what has happened to these helpful features?

Damian McGrath

I am mising a feature in Logos 4. Where has the verse list and the vocabularly list gone too. I looked at the F1 help feature, but could not find it there. So what has happened to these helpful features?

Geertruida, have you read the what's missing and when to expect it page? http://www.logos.com/4/missingfeatures

Alan Smith

I've been using Logos for about 1 year. I recently upgraded to L4 silver. I love it! The only problem is it runs slow but I am upgrading my memory. I hope that fixes the problem.

Richard E.

I have been using Logos for almost ten years. I still have copies of version 1.

Up until two years ago I used Logos to prepare sermons and personal devotionals. Two years ago I became a professor in a Christian college. I now use Logos for the first two mentioned and to help prepare for class.

I have recently upgraded to Logos 4 and moved up to the Platinum.

Dennis

Dennis Hello Jayson,

Thanks for the invite! I have been using L4 now for about a month and I LOVE it! I have the scholars version with many other individual collections added. The L4 is so through the tip on how to just look up a single verse or section from in a few bibles was priceless to me. I was wondering anyway what the difference in the "go" box and thee "command" box was....Great difference. Both are needed at different times. I will have to add that the command box is a pretty smart little search and command gadget

I will be back here often......

Thanks,

Dennis

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Cynthia R Webber

I have been using Logos for two years now. I previously used Logos 3 Scholars and have just upgraded to Logos 4 Gold! I am a Minister and I use it for everyday studying and for preparing my sermons. I'm really excited about the new Logos 4.

Russ McLamb

I'm brand new to Logos. I only bought Logos 3 about a month before L4 came out. You guys and gals have been invaluable to the learning process and I just wanted to say thanks. You don't realize how many of your post truly help in not only learning L4 but also in the study of God's word. Thank you! I'm director of Evangelism and Outreach for our church and I also help oversee a street ministry that reaches into the local shelters and food kitchens in our area. I preach the word not only in those places but anywhere God opens the door. Thanks again for your invaluable input it's deeply appreciated!

Larry Fisher

Well I have been using Logos since 1999, started with the Scholars library and over the years have been adding books. I ordered something from the John MacArhtur website and Logos was with it and its been with me ever since.

Within the last 3 weeks I upgraded to logos 4 Silver, actually it was my right index finger that upgraded, not having consulted with that which is between my ears. But am thrilled that I did, what a great product.

My home being a 12x12 studio I have no where to put books but Logos solves that dilema.

I guess I use it for everything, devotions, Bible Study, original language studies everything you've designed it for. Logos has put out a product that one like me who barely made it through high school can feel like he went to Bible College or is going to college and that at 57.

Wish list......I'm just thankful our Lord has blessed me with this much.

Love reading and following the forums, learned a lot from them.

Thanks Logos

Dennis G Edgar

Hi my name is Dennis. I live in South Africa.

I have been using Logos for years (more than 10).

What I do enjoy is the search facility.

I currently have Scholars package Logos 4). I use it for sermons and Bible study.

I do not use it to the full.

I would like to be able to utilise the Greek and Hebrew facilities to better advantage.

Jack Caviness

would like to be able to utilise the Greek and Hebrew facilities to better advantage.

Dennis

You might want to take a look at Learn to Use Biblical Greek and Hebrew with Logos Bible Software on the Pre-Pub page. The marketing hype it a bit over the top, but it is designed to do what you are asking for.

Daniel Bonilla Rios

Hi! My name is Daniel Bonilla-Rios.

I found out about Logos about ten years ago. I was looking for Bible software that was not so expensive, and found Logos. It got me hooked from the beginning. Since I live in Costa Rica, and we did not have good Internet connections back then, I was really not interested on blogging. Now, things are better, and broadband connections are working... and working fine. So here am I.

I am a a Bible student. I am getting my Ph.D. in Bible from a U.S. seminary. So, I own the Original Languages package, plus some books related to the languages (syntax, grammar, a book on textual criticism, one from the JSOTSupp collenction). Logos is extremely helpful for dissertation research and writing (and for writing in general), and also for Bible study. Right now, I am preparing to give a four-week Bble study on the book of Philippians, and using Logos for some of my research.

My wish list? Anything that has to do with languages (the Gottingen Septuagint, for example)! I also wish scholarly books on Bible (it is great you are making available the Anchor Yale Bible Commentary, for example).

One question. When I upgraded to Logos 4, what happened to my workspaces? I have no idea where to find them.

Thanks for this wonderful software!

Many blessings on this holiday season, and may 2010 be full of God's blessings.

In Christ,

Daniel

Geertruida Selter

thanks for directing me to that page. I will happily awaiting the arrival of the features in V4 and will for now use them in Libronix

Geertruida Selter

thanks for directing me to that page. I will await the arrival in due time in V4 and continue for the moment with them in Libronix.

Andrew Tobin

Nearly 10,000 users . . . maybe I can be number 10,000.

I've been a Logos user since 2004.

I'm currently using Logos 4 Gold. I just made the upgrade from L3.

I use Logos for sermon prep and personal study. I'm still not crazy about reading commentaries on a computer screen, but it certainly is a cheaper way of doing things.

As for my wish list, I'll parrot some of the others: a final version for the Mac. I must say, the iPhone App is pretty impressive!

I'm currently using both the Mac version and the Windows version via VMWare. L3 on my virtual machine was pretty fast, but L4 on that same machine is much different - quite a bit of lag time from when a button is pushed and the corresponding function occurs, and I'm not talking about complex searches but rather when I simply hit the File, Guides, or Tools menu bars. L4 looks great, and I'm thankful for Logos' commitment to continue to develop its product to make it the best it can be. I look forward to days ahead.

I'll ask my first question, recognizing that this might not be the most appropriate thread to seek an answer. Are there other VMWare users experiencing the problem (i.e., slow functionality) with L4. For reference, I'm using a 2.2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 4 GB RAM; VMWare Fusion v2.0.6 with Windows XP Pro SP3.

Thanks!

Damian McGrath

I'll ask my first question, recognizing that this might not be the most appropriate thread to seek an answer. Are there other VMWare users experiencing the problem (i.e., slow functionality) with L4. For reference, I'm using a 2.2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 4 GB RAM; VMWare Fusion v2.0.6 with Windows XP Pro SP3.

AndrewJames,

It's very likely that the people able to answer this question will not read this post. Please start a new thread. There have been quite a few discussions on VMWare and there are some very capable users who have worked out some fine-tuning....

To write a new post in the Logos4 forum, click here... http://community.logos.com/forums/AddPost.aspx?ForumID=76

Jack Caviness

I'm currently using both the Mac version and the Windows version via VMWare. L3 on my virtual machine was pretty fast, but L4 on that same machine is much different

Which version of Fusion are you using? I was using version 2.8, and getting acceptable results. Donavon Palmer is using version 3 and getting good results. I upgrades to Parallels 5 and am getting good performance. There are instructions on the Mac forum for optimizing both Fusion and Parallels, and they have probably been included in the Wiki. Let us know if you need help finding them.

EDIT: Damian is correct. You will get better results with a new thread. Try the Logos 4 Mac forum for the best results.

tom potter

i have been using logos off and on for about 3 years. I enjoy logos because when i listen to sermons i will usually double check what they say and some times i find that they are alittle off. which is great because we shouldn't just take their word for it. Gods word is final.

Jack Caviness

i have been using logos off and on for about 3 years. I enjoy logos because when i listen to sermons i will usually double check what they say and some times i find that they are alittle off. which is great because we shouldn't just take their word for it. Gods word is final.

That would make you a Berean (Acts 17:10-11), which is a very good thing.

Will Scholten

Hi Jason

I have been a Logos user about 20 minutes, & new to forums.

I have used a Bible library not Logos, nothing like this. I just got the Scholar library, right now it looks very over whelming, a lot of info here.

I am a volunteer high school youth leader and we are planning on showing our group how to dig deeper, I searched around on the net to check out different resourses and I think this will be a very good tool.

I've been a Christian my whole life, I went to a couple of Doug Greenwold seminars about in order to under stand the Bible better you have to under stand the time and context to when it was written, I think and pray this is the right direction

Will Scholten

Jack Caviness

have been a Logos user about 20 minutes, & new to forums.

Will

Welcome to Logos 4 and to the Logos Forums.

First of all, you should check out the links I have included below. Then, watch the instructional videos that are available on the Logos web site. As you do this, you should see links to user generated videos. You probably want to check those also. If you do not find answers to all your questions, ask on this forum. There are many very knowledgeable people here who are more than willing to assist you. If you do not see a thread that deals with your question, start a new one. If you append it to a non-related thread, your problem may not get the attention it deserves.

Logos 4 FAQs

Logos wiki

Adam Carrigan

Will,

A few resources that may be helpful in your work with the high schoolers:

PRECEPT: Precept ministries has great stuff that teaches people how to dig into God's word for themselves. Even after six years of higher ed in preparation for ministry, when I discovered their material it transformed the way I study the Word. www.precept.org (I discovered it when I was looking for a Bible study on Revelation that didn't push a certain interpretation; it really focused on helping you learn for yourself what the Bible says).
REALLY CHEAP LOGOS: In my last church we tried to invest in our teachers by equipping them with resources (our gift to them). We gave them the Ultimate Bible Reference Collection from Nelson eBible. It has the basic Logos engine and same basic interface (as Logos 3.0). It's only $20 and contains about 70 resources. It might be a great resource for your high schoolers (that they can afford). http://www.nelsonministryservices.com/nms/dept.asp?dept_id=5125&ref=12039 You can get the next version higher for $25.
E-SWORD: This is a great Bible program that is basically free (some add-ons cost money). It's not as good as Logos, but if folks want something for free, it's a great way to get their feet wet at using computers for Bible study. Lots of dictionaries, commentaries, Bibles, even maps. www.e-sword.net.

Don't know if any of that is helpful, or if you were even looking for something the students could use themselves. But I pass it along just in case.

Your fellow servant,

- Adam

Sharon

Will,

A few resources that may be helpful in your work with the high schoolers:

PRECEPT: Precept ministries has great stuff that teaches people how to dig into God's word for themselves. Even after six years of higher ed in preparation for ministry, when I discovered their material it transformed the way I study the Word. www.precept.org (I discovered it when I was looking for a Bible study on Revelation that didn't push a certain interpretation; it really focused on helping you learn for yourself what the Bible says).

REALLY CHEAP LOGOS: In my last church we tried to invest in our teachers by equipping them with resources (our gift to them). We gave them the Ultimate Bible Reference Collection from Nelson eBible. It has the basic Logos engine and same basic interface (as Logos 3.0). It's only $20 and contains about 70 resources. It might be a great resource for your high schoolers (that they can afford). http://www.nelsonministryservices.com/nms/dept.asp?dept_id=5125&ref=12039 You can get the next version higher for $25.

E-SWORD: This is a great Bible program that is basically free (some add-ons cost money). It's not as good as Logos, but if folks want something for free, it's a great way to get their feet wet at using computers for Bible study. Lots of dictionaries, commentaries, Bibles, even maps. www.e-sword.net.

Don't know if any of that is helpful, or if you were even looking for something the students could use themselves. But I pass it along just in case.

Your fellow servant,

- Adam

Hi Adam,

I met you awhile back in this thread. I see you already know about Precept.[Y] Thought maybe I seemed too zealous. I was just taken with your picture of a "dear woman" who studied the same way - wish I knew her...

In case you are interested, I have for many years written observation workbooks (lots and lots and lots of observation questions) to help students who seem to struggle with how to observe. We are just now getting some of them onto a website. I have done most of the Bible, but we have so many years worth, it will take awhile to upload them all. In case someone you know needs help sometime, they are there for use, and free. Here is the website: wordcenterministries.org

Sharon

Adam Carrigan

Sharon,

I'm so glad you posted on this. I got way behind on keeping up with the posts, and I lost track of you.

You didn't seem overzealous - just zealous - and encouraging! Our small group had been doing the "pop in a video, then discuss"
studies for a while, and my wife and I wanted to do something that
really got people into the word. So I asked, "what would you like to study?" When they said Revelation, I had to hunt to make sure I got a study that wasn't about indoctrinating us into a particular viewpoint. As I mentioned the Rev study (from New Inductive Study series) was my intro to Precept. I was so pleased with it.

We eventually brought a Precept training to our church. That was great! Had bunches of folks go thru it, though the long-term effect wasn't the gain a bunch more teachers (that was my goal, as the pastor directing the ed program).

I eventually started developing my own material following the Precept . Two reasons:
1) The women in our church had used it for many years, but the men had not. "Inductive" seemed to have a connotation of being for women, so the men were not interested or were intimidated. So we changed from Inductive to Investigative to encourage the men to get involved. We still used the Precept material.
2) We had decided to offer a class on John (co-ed), but there was no study on John in the New Inductive Study series (that level of study worked well for us). So I developed my own material. It worked great. I loved it, and the class loved it too. I found that to be so much more effective, and I customized the material each week based on the previous week's discussion. I also ranked the questions in tiers based on how much time students wanted to devote.

I will definitely take a look at the website. That is so great that you are making that available. I might pass it along to some of the folks that are still leading the at that church (I'm not there anymore). Here's a link to my website https://sites.google.com/site/speakforth/class-materials. I was using it when I took a class (at the next church) thru a study of "What is the Church?" as seen in Acts. The link to "Investigative Bible study" is a simple sheet where I summarize the steps to study (had to keep it simple to not intimidate the students).

I'm now filling the pulpit at another church who just lost their pastor (in a good way - he's planting a new church). That keeps me pretty busy, so I'm haven't kept the site up. Need to though, b/c my friend is now teaching the same class I used to teach, and he needs me to post his material.

I'd love to keep in touch, but direct email may be easier than the Logos forum: speakforth@gmail.com.

- Adam

David Simpson

Hello

David Simpson here from Canada

I've been using Logos starting with version2. Was using scholar's library in ver 3 and recently upgraded to silver in ver 4. Really tempted to update to Gold or platinum.

Using primarily for bible study as well as leading precept studies. Still trying to figure out how to use ver 4.

Waiting on the MP manual- 3+ weeks now and counting.

BillS

Really tempted to update to Gold or platinum.

Welcome, David! My story is similar... started with v1.6 for Bible study... upgraded as funds / packages were avaialble.

If you're interested in upgrading, do it soon for best price (before 1/31).

Many blessings, and again---welcome!

Jan Kleinsmit

Hi Dennis

Only picked up your post now.

I am also in SA (Pretoria). I have been using Logos 3 (now 4) for about 4 years. Like you, I also would like to utilise the Greek and Hebrew facilities.

I was wondering if we should start a seperate forum mainly for us South Africans, and possibly we could address our unique problems.

Blessings,

Jan

Jack Caviness

I also would like to utilise the Greek and Hebrew facilities.

Jan, did you notice my response to Dennis? You might take a look at Learn to Use Biblical Greek and Hebrew with Logos Bible Software

I am also in SA (Pretoria).

I have missionary friends in SA, but they would be some distance from you. Alan & Marion Mercer are near Kruger Park, and Paul & Penny Hesman are in Port Elizabeth. Alan, Marion, & Paul are originally from SA.

Jan Kleinsmit

Hi Jack,

I am waiting for the Learn to Use Biblical Greek and Hebrew with Logos Bible Software in great anticipation.

Ultimately, sometime in the distant future, I would like to have a Morris Procter Camp look-alike in South Africa where SA users could physically get together and exchange ideas. Bit of a tall order but one never knows.

God bless,
Jan

Kolen Cheung

I would love for Logos to publish ... Watchman Nee books.

Amen!

Adam Carrigan

I also would love that. Just read his bio.

On that note, any biography resources would be most welcome. I'm a fan of the "Heroes of the Faith" series (link is to a list of some that I've read in my Google Books library). I think Christian History & Biography Magazine is available for Logos (back issues).

Loretta Lilly

Purchased L4 over a month ago. Want to study Prophecy. My wish is that God will give this 70 year old wisdom and understanding of Revelation and the other prophetic books. So glad to be a part of the family of Logos. I surely need help.

William

So glad to be a part of the family of Logos

We are pleased as peaches to have you join us here on the Forums. If you ever need any search helps or resource help feel free to ask away. Have some wonderful study in this work of art that is Logos V4.

Christ's Peace!

Lynden O. Williams

Lynden Williams, involved in pastoral ministry for over 15 years. Studied in Jamaica where I received a Masters degree in Pastoral Theology. I live in the Bahamas, and have been using Libronix (Logos 3) since 2004. I recommend Logos 4 however, as it is a better platform.

Not a newbie, but after reading the blog post for today, decided to chip in. Logos, can this be placed under a separate category. It should be placed right on top of "General". I want it to be the first thing that the new user to the forum sees when he logs onto the site.

There are many in the forums who are will and able to answer your questions. Among forum users, there are no dumb questions. Watch the videos, and read the training articles.

Romulo de Amorim Correa

My first wish list for Logos is a fully functioning mac version of v4 but I already know it's on it's way. Beyond that I'd say better documentation/ training on not just what the program does but why you'd use it that way.

Hi Dave,

this is my wish too!!! ))

Romulo de Amorim Correa

It is too early days with Logos 4 for me to have a wish list, but the extension of the training video's to cover more features would not be a bad thing, though I surmise that you are working on that.

Here we go again! ))

Friedrich

My first wish list for Logos is a fully functioning mac version of v4 but I already know it's on it's way. Beyond that I'd say better documentation/ training on not just what the program does but why you'd use it that way.

Hi Dave,

this is my wish too!!! ))

Have you guys checked out the User-created videos? These are mostly (all?) done on the PC, but several of them, including the ones by Mark Barnes, get a bit more into the "why", in the sense of seeing the flow of how you put things together for, let's say, a sermon preparation. They have a more organic feel to them, rather than just "here's how you created a collection."