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Damian McGrath | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 2:38 PM

AndrewJamesTobin:
I'll ask my first question, recognizing that this might not be the most appropriate thread to seek an answer. Are there other VMWare users experiencing the problem (i.e., slow functionality) with L4. For reference, I'm using a 2.2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 4 GB RAM; VMWare Fusion v2.0.6 with Windows XP Pro SP3.

AndrewJames,

It's very likely that the people able to answer this question will not read this post. Please start a new thread. There have been quite a few discussions on VMWare and there are some very capable users who have worked out some fine-tuning....

To write a new post in the Logos4 forum, click here... http://community.logos.com/forums/AddPost.aspx?ForumID=76

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 5:55 PM

AndrewJamesTobin:
I'm currently using both the Mac version and the Windows version via VMWare. L3 on my virtual machine was pretty fast, but L4 on that same machine is much different

Which version of Fusion are you using? I was using version 2.8, and getting acceptable results. Donavon Palmer is using version 3 and getting good results. I upgrades to Parallels 5 and am getting good performance. There are instructions on the Mac forum for optimizing both Fusion and Parallels, and they have probably been included in the Wiki. Let us know if you need help finding them.

EDIT: Damian is correct. You will get better results with a new thread. Try the Logos 4 Mac forum for the best results.

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tom potter | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 23 2009 5:23 AM

i have been using logos off and on for about 3 years.  I enjoy logos because when i listen to sermons i will usually double check what they say and some times i find that they are alittle off. which is great because we shouldn't just take their word for it.  Gods word is final. 

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 23 2009 10:30 AM

tompotter:

i have been using logos off and on for about 3 years.  I enjoy logos because when i listen to sermons i will usually double check what they say and some times i find that they are alittle off. which is great because we shouldn't just take their word for it.  Gods word is final. 

That would make you a Berean (Acts 17:10-11), which is a very good thing.

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Will Scholten | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 24 2009 6:57 PM

Hi Jason

I have been a Logos user about 20 minutes, & new to forums.

I have used a Bible library not Logos, nothing like this. I just got the Scholar library, right now it looks very over whelming, a lot of info here.

I am a volunteer high school youth leader and we are planning on showing our group how to dig deeper, I searched around on the net to check out different resourses and I think this will be a very good tool.

I've been a Christian my whole life, I went to a couple of Doug Greenwold seminars about in order to under stand the Bible better you have to under stand the time and context to when it was written, I think and pray this is the right direction

Will Scholten

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 25 2009 3:24 AM

Will Scholten:
have been a Logos user about 20 minutes, & new to forums.

Will

Welcome to Logos 4 and to the Logos Forums.

First of all, you should check out the links I have included below. Then, watch the instructional videos that are available on the Logos web site. As you do this, you should see links to user generated videos. You probably want to check those also. If you do not find answers to all your questions, ask on this forum. There are many very knowledgeable people here who are more than willing to assist you. If you do not see a thread that deals with your question, start a new one. If you append it to a non-related thread, your problem may not get the attention it deserves. 

Logos 4 FAQs

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Adam Carrigan | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 27 2009 11:43 AM

Will,

A few resources that may be helpful in your work with the high schoolers:

  • PRECEPT: Precept ministries has great stuff that teaches people how to dig into God's word for themselves.  Even after six years of higher ed in preparation for ministry, when I discovered their material it transformed the way I study the Word.  www.precept.org  (I discovered it when I was looking for a Bible study on Revelation that didn't push a certain interpretation; it really focused on helping you learn for yourself what the Bible says).
  • REALLY CHEAP LOGOS: In my last church we tried to invest in our teachers by equipping them with resources (our gift to them).  We gave them the Ultimate Bible Reference Collection from Nelson eBible.  It has the basic Logos engine and same basic interface (as Logos 3.0).  It's only $20 and contains about 70 resources.  It might be a great resource for your high schoolers (that they can afford).  http://www.nelsonministryservices.com/nms/dept.asp?dept_id=5125&ref=12039  You can get the next version higher for $25.
  • E-SWORD: This is a great Bible program that is basically free (some add-ons cost money).  It's not as good as Logos, but if folks want something for free, it's a great way to get their feet wet at using computers for Bible study.  Lots of dictionaries, commentaries, Bibles, even maps.  www.e-sword.net.

Don't know if any of that is helpful, or if you were even looking for something the students could use themselves.  But I pass it along just in case.

Your fellow servant,

- Adam

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Sharon | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 27 2009 6:07 PM

AdamCarrigan:

Will,

A few resources that may be helpful in your work with the high schoolers:

  • PRECEPT: Precept ministries has great stuff that teaches people how to dig into God's word for themselves.  Even after six years of higher ed in preparation for ministry, when I discovered their material it transformed the way I study the Word.  www.precept.org  (I discovered it when I was looking for a Bible study on Revelation that didn't push a certain interpretation; it really focused on helping you learn for yourself what the Bible says).
  • REALLY CHEAP LOGOS: In my last church we tried to invest in our teachers by equipping them with resources (our gift to them).  We gave them the Ultimate Bible Reference Collection from Nelson eBible.  It has the basic Logos engine and same basic interface (as Logos 3.0).  It's only $20 and contains about 70 resources.  It might be a great resource for your high schoolers (that they can afford).  http://www.nelsonministryservices.com/nms/dept.asp?dept_id=5125&ref=12039  You can get the next version higher for $25.
  • E-SWORD: This is a great Bible program that is basically free (some add-ons cost money).  It's not as good as Logos, but if folks want something for free, it's a great way to get their feet wet at using computers for Bible study.  Lots of dictionaries, commentaries, Bibles, even maps.  www.e-sword.net.

Don't know if any of that is helpful, or if you were even looking for something the students could use themselves.  But I pass it along just in case.

Your fellow servant,

- Adam

Hi Adam,

I met you awhile back in this thread.  I see you already know about Precept.Yes  Thought maybe I seemed too zealous.  I was just taken with your picture of a "dear woman" who studied the same way - wish I knew her...

In case you are interested, I have for many years written observation workbooks (lots and lots and lots of observation questions) to help students who seem to struggle with how to observe.  We are just now getting some of them onto a website.   I have done most of the Bible, but we have so many years worth, it will take awhile to upload them all.  In case someone you know needs help sometime, they are there for use, and free.  Here is the website:  wordcenterministries.org

Sharon

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Adam Carrigan | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 28 2009 7:20 AM

Sharon,

I'm so glad you posted on this.  I got way behind on keeping up with the posts, and I lost track of you.

You didn't seem overzealous - just zealous - and encouraging!  Our small group had been doing the "pop in a video, then discuss" studies for a while, and my wife and I wanted to do something that really got people into the word.  So I asked, "what would you like to study?"  When they said Revelation, I had to hunt to make sure I got a study that wasn't about indoctrinating us into a particular viewpoint.  As I mentioned the Rev study (from New Inductive Study series) was my intro to Precept.  I was so pleased with it. 

We eventually brought a Precept training to our church.  That was great!  Had bunches of folks go thru it, though the long-term effect wasn't the gain a bunch more teachers (that was my goal, as the pastor directing the ed program). 

I eventually started developing my own material following the Precept .  Two reasons:
1) The women in our church had used it for many years, but the men had not.  "Inductive" seemed to have a connotation of being for women, so the men were not interested or were intimidated.  So we changed from Inductive to Investigative to encourage the men to get involved.  We still used the Precept material.
2) We had decided to offer a class on John (co-ed), but there was no study on John in the New Inductive Study series (that level of study worked well for us).  So I developed my own material.  It worked great.  I loved it, and the class loved it too.  I found that to be so much more effective, and I customized the material each week based on the previous week's discussion.  I also ranked the questions in tiers based on how much time students wanted to devote. 

I will definitely take a look at the website.  That is so great that you are making that available.  I might pass it along to some of the folks that are still leading the at that church (I'm not there anymore).  Here's a link to my website https://sites.google.com/site/speakforth/class-materials.  I was using it when I took a class (at the next church) thru a study of "What is the Church?" as seen in Acts.  The link to "Investigative Bible study" is a simple sheet where I summarize the steps to study (had to keep it simple to not intimidate the students). 

I'm now filling the pulpit at another church who just lost their pastor (in a good way - he's planting a new church).  That keeps me pretty busy, so I'm haven't kept the site up.  Need to though, b/c my friend is now teaching the same class I used to teach, and he needs me to post his material.

I'd love to keep in touch, but direct email may be easier than the Logos forum: speakforth@gmail.com.

- Adam

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Adam Carrigan | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 28 2009 7:40 AM

Sharon, one more thing... Your timeline is first-rate.  Wow!  I really like the way you incorporated covenant into it, as well as the Bible books.  And I appreciate your humility regarding the placement of the rapture.  I don't know how I'll go about getting that printed, but I want to get a big copy!  - Adam

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Sharon | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 28 2009 8:17 AM

Adam,

Oh! To wake up in the morning and read such a blessed post!  I am so glad I didn't scare you away!  And I love what you are doing.  That's what Precept wants, is for us to study the Bible ourselves, and you developing studies to help your students is exactly right on!  You have taken the baton from them and are running the race!  Awesome!

I would like to keep up too. 

And, as far as the timeline, if you will send me your address (to my email that I will send you) I will send you a pocket sized timeline which fits in your Bible (it is laminated) - may you be blessed.  I have a large class-sized one that I hang up above the whiteboards.  It is so great to be able to point to the timeline to help my students "click in" to where we are at in time.  It was a work of love for me (for my wonderful Father, and for all my children "students") and I know His Spirit filled me.  Yet, because I still see as in a mirror dimly, any and all errors must be attributed entirely to me.  I am still studying, and always will.

Today I am finishing up the observation workbook for Micah, then all of 'The12' will be finished.  We are about to put some simple "how to" info on the site, as well.  We are also transcribing all the teaching through the years, and editing the audios in order to put it all on the website.  It will take a long time, but we are determined because we feel this is what God is telling us to do.  And we don't know anything about websites - we are just learning by watching videos.  We pray that He will "enlarge our hearts" by filling us with skill to do His work. 

Speaking of not knowing much about websites - one of our desires is to be able to keep the website up and running for at least seven years after Christ comes to get us.  We have thought about putting the money in the care of an attorney or just paying ahead to our website host.  We want to make sure simple Bible Observation help is available for those who will need it.  We don't know exactly how to accomplish it, but we're praying.  Any ideas?

About my Father's business...

Sharon

 

wordcenterministries.org

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David Simpson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 10 2010 5:34 PM

Hello

David Simpson here from Canada

I've been using Logos starting with version2.  Was using scholar's library in ver 3 and recently upgraded to silver in ver 4. Really tempted to update to Gold or platinum.

Using primarily for bible study as well as leading precept studies. Still trying to figure out how to use ver 4.

Waiting on the MP manual- 3+ weeks now and counting.

 

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BillS | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 11 2010 10:41 AM

DavidSimpson:
Really tempted to update to Gold or platinum.

 

Welcome, David! My story is similar... started with v1.6 for Bible study... upgraded as funds / packages were avaialble.

If you're interested in upgrading, do it soon for best price (before 1/31).

Many blessings, and again---welcome!

Grace & Peace,
Bill


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Jan Kleinsmit | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 12:31 AM

Hi Dennis

Only picked up your post now.

I am also in SA (Pretoria). I have been using Logos 3 (now 4) for about 4 years. Like you, I also would like to utilise the Greek and Hebrew facilities.

I was wondering if we should start a seperate forum mainly for us South Africans, and possibly we could address our unique problems.

Blessings,

Jan

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 4:33 AM

JanKleinsmit:
I also would like to utilise the Greek and Hebrew facilities.

Jan, did you notice my response to Dennis? You might take a look at Learn to Use Biblical Greek and Hebrew with Logos Bible Software

JanKleinsmit:
I am also in SA (Pretoria).

I have missionary friends in SA, but they would be some distance from you. Alan & Marion Mercer are near Kruger Park, and Paul & Penny Hesman are in Port Elizabeth. Alan, Marion, & Paul are originally from SA.

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Jan Kleinsmit | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 5:01 AM

Hi Jack,

I am waiting for the Learn to Use Biblical Greek and Hebrew with Logos Bible Software in great anticipation.

Ultimately, sometime in the distant future, I would like to have a Morris Procter Camp look-alike in South Africa where SA users could physically get together and exchange ideas. Bit of a tall order but one never knows.

God bless,
Jan

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 12:45 PM

JanKleinsmit:
Hi Jack

Don't say that at the airport. Geeked

JanKleinsmit:
would like to have a Morris Procter Camp look-alike in South Africa

I am certain that a lot of other Logos users outside the US would also like that. Who knows what the future may hold? Perhaps Mo can train some others or even clone himself. From you picture, you look like you have plenty of time.

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Jan Kleinsmit | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 9:20 PM

Thanks Jack (point noted),

Possibly the photo is a slight misrepresentation - we need to add another 50 or so years to the photo. He's a little friend who stays down the road, and yes, he is as cute as what he looks.

Regards

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Mark A | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2010 9:38 PM

I'm in!  ... started w/ v2.0 and Logos 4 is my first upgrade in almost 10 years!?!  To be honest, there were a number of years of non-use, but I am excited to dig in and thrive within the walls of Logos and my iPhone ... thanks to all who contribute to make the Logos Community rich with content and a welcoming place.

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Kolen Cheung | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 23 2010 6:35 PM

NancyDianeGunter:
I would love for Logos to publish ... Watchman Nee books.

Amen!

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