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George Ruddell | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2013 4:10 PM

Hello

How do I download Logos 5 and my library onto a second computer? I have forgotten. Can someone help?

Thank you.

George Ruddell

 

 

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 6 2013 4:17 PM

George Ruddell:

Hello

How do I download Logos 5 and my library onto a second computer? I have forgotten. Can someone help?

Thank you.

George Ruddell

 

Try one of the methods here: http://wiki.logos.com/Quick_Installation_onto_multiple_computers

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 6 2013 4:21 PM

George Ruddell:

Hello

How do I download Logos 5 and my library onto a second computer? I have forgotten. Can someone help?

Thank you.

George Ruddell

It has, recently been proven that you do not need to have Logos 4 installed, yet I did not do the copy/paste routine of the named directories, instead did a direct download of the library, and let it index....

http://wiki.logos.com/Quick_Installation_onto_multiple_computers

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 6 2013 9:53 PM

George Ruddell:
How do I download Logos 5 and my library onto a second computer? I have forgotten. Can someone help?

George

Use Method 3 of the wiki as that avoids another big download and install Logos 5 as directed.

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 7 2013 8:29 AM

Dave Hooton:

George Ruddell:
How do I download Logos 5 and my library onto a second computer? I have forgotten. Can someone help?

George

Use Method 3 of the wiki as that avoids another big download and install Logos 5 as directed.

Yes, you can. BUT, and that is a really BIG BUT, you will get the "ALL" the L4 files with it.

-Inside each of those folders are files that contain info that was/is carried over from doing L5 UPGRADE WITH L4 already installed on a system.

-To releave ones-self of having issues when you start L5 from just an L5***.exe setup [downloaded setup file] I strongly suggest that you get everything from the Logos HQ server.

-yes it does take a while to get the -in some cases- massive download, but then you do not get unnecessay/unwanted duplicate files.

-From a voice of experience, I copied the named folders to an external drive before I brought over the named folders from a system that already had L4 on it and was "UPGRADED", and had some issues when I started L5

-knowing already what was causing the issues, I deleted the carried over folders, brought back the folders and copied just the "resources" folder from the previouse.

-Restarted the system, restarted L5 and just let it do the normal "preparing Library" and "Indexing". Then let it sync, did another warm boot and everything went fine. I checkd the files from the NEW folder Logos5 with the folder of a system that "UPGRADED" L4 to L5 and there was a significant difference. I did not have a bunch of files that were "Logos4*****.*"....

Hope this helps...[sorry don't mean to rain on anyones parade, but false intel is fly-ing about....]

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 7 2013 1:31 PM

Room4more:
Hope this helps...[sorry don't mean to rain on anyones parade, but false intel is fly-ing about....]

There aren't any BUT's, R4m as it is you who is hindering and blocking sound advice to a fellow user.

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 7 2013 1:58 PM

Dave Hooton:

Room4more:
Hope this helps...[sorry don't mean to rain on anyones parade, but false intel is fly-ing about....]

There aren't any BUT's, R4m as it is you who is hindering and blocking sound advice to a fellow user.

Ok, ONE[two] question:

If I copy the folders over from a Computer system that had L4 UPGRADED to L5, to a system that loaded L5 from the Logos5setup.exe[downloaded from the website] and is running L5, will it not also contain the Logos4***.* files as well?

If so: then why do I need those files? Logos5 runs without them.....[re-read what I wrote and re-read "Method 3"]

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 7 2013 5:53 PM

Dave Hooton:

Room4more:
Hope this helps...[sorry don't mean to rain on anyones parade, but false intel is fly-ing about....]

There aren't any BUT's, R4m as it is you who is hindering and blocking sound advice to a fellow user.

Dave, maybe you can help me here, What's wrong with these pics?

L5 upgrade from L4

these are from here

And this one:

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 7 2013 8:59 PM

Room4more:
What's wrong with these pics?

You appear to be asking why the "PanelExporter" and "ResourceXpsMedia" folders are not present in your new Logos 5 install. The answer is simple: these are cache folders that are created on demand. They will contain at most a few hundred KB of files. You are right in a sense that there's absolutely no point in copying them from one machine to another. However, the "savings" of not copying those folders are dwarfed by the cost of having to re-download all resources.

I think we are done here. Wink   Dave is still da' man!

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 7 2013 9:17 PM

Super Tramp:

Room4more:
What's wrong with these pics?

You appear to be asking why the "PanelExporter" and "ResourceXpsMedia" folders are not present in your new Logos 5 install. The answer is simple: these are cache folders that are created on demand. They will contain at most a few hundred KB of files. You are right in a sense that there's absolutely no point in copying them from one machine to another. However, the "savings" of not copying those folders are dwarfed by the cost of having to re-download all resources.

I think we are done here. Wink

No, you missed it, I wasn't asking why(?) certain folders weren't there, I already knew, since they are cache files/folders then I can delete them a hundred x's a day, they will rebuild themselves when needed.

So you are saying that I should copy dead folders from one machine to another....correct? even tho those folders have no resounding effct as to the functionality of running L5 on a clean machine when using a setup file that comes directly from Logos HQ themselves...? [if that is not bad intel, then we are in for a serious headache]

-why would anyone want to copy a folder that is no longer being used by a program that has been UPGRADED?

-knowing already what was causing the issues, I deleted the carried over folders, brought back the folders and copied just the "resources" folder from the previouse.

Again, you failed to read through....but I DO appreciate you earnest attempt.

peat and re-peat.

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 8 2013 4:06 AM

Room4more:

-why would anyone want to copy a folder that is no longer being used by a program that has been UPGRADED?

i can't answer for anyone else But i can answer for myself. Obviously you would be one who would prefer not to have them. For me I would have no problem copying them because there is no negative side effect to L5, the space the folders take up is negligible, and I would rather copy and paste a couple such folders then spend countless hours downloading with my slow DSL service. I can imagine it being an issue For those who have a limited monthly bandwidth too.

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 8 2013 4:59 AM

Halo Hound:

Room4more:

-why would anyone want to copy a folder that is no longer being used by a program that has been UPGRADED?

i can't answer for anyone else But i can answer for myself. Obviously you would be one who would prefer not to have them. For me I would have no problem copying them because there is no negative side effect to L5, the space the folders take up is negligible, and I would rather copy and paste a couple such folders then spend countless hours downloading with my slow DSL service. I can imagine it being an issue For those who have a limited monthly bandwidth too.

I am walking out the door, but your statement was intriguing. So in a brief, consider this:

Any programmer worth his salt would agree – “In the computing world, redundancy can slow a system down…a clean system is by far a smoother and better running system…” Mr. Gates.

Have a good day.....

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 8 2013 12:14 PM

Personally, I do not appreciate starting another thread, there is nothing wrong with this one. So let's bring the conversation back to where it started and not go chasin'wabbits....

Dave Hooton:

R4m

If you want to ask a question or query something, then you do it in a new thread. You don't interrupt another user's query or issue, OK!

Room4more:

Dave, maybe you can help me here, What's wrong with these pics?

L5 upgrade from L4

-pic1 placment from above-

these are from here

-pic2 placement from above-

And this one:

-pic3 palcement from above-

1. You haven't stated what you have done to get here, but I'll assume you have attempted (a variation of) Method 2.

2. Do you have 3 distinct Logos Accounts, because you have 3 User Id's (random numbers) in the \Data folder? This could also come about because you copied the random folder to the Data folder from different installations over time.

3. Method 2 works because it copies the essential Data, Documents AND Users folders to ensure integrity i.e if you have 1 or more Logos accounts in one installation it will correctly copy them ALL to another installation, and the Users folder makes sure the login details of each account are carried over.

4. If you selectively copy different folders because of a perception that they are not needed in a new installation then

  • saving a hundred MB or so is simply not worth it
  • if you get it wrong you run into problems
  • it requires extra time and steps!

I replied:

Room4more:

Technology is amazing!

-NO-, on all your inquiries, this is a LOGOS HQ doing. I have one account, the same account since Logos/Libronix '2', if by chance what you state is correct:

-then L5 install on the NEW hd would have generated the same sequential numbering/lettering of account folder(s).

-The only thing I copied to the L5 data was the "resources" folder.

-If what you say is true then I would have a duplicate folder name "tuct1...." in the same Logos4/data/ since that would be the most current folder by which the upgrade to L5 would have gotten/generated it's information [license, resources, etc., etc.]-OR- it whould have[SHOULD HAVE] overwritten the most current, which would have been the "tuct1..."

-other than the last pic, this is the same system.

**No manipulation of the pic, no cut/paste to test your savvy. Original file/folder display as would be visible on the screen when going thru the filing system...**

Sorry to disappoint you.

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Dave Hooton:

Room4more:
-then L5 install on the NEW hd would have generated the same sequential numbering/lettering of account folder(s).

A new install generates a new random User Id. So that picture is what I would expect (the Users folder ties your account Signin details to that User Id).

Room4more:
-If what you say is true then I would have a duplicate folder name "tuct1...." in the same Logos4/data/ since that would be the most current folder by which the upgrade to L5 would have gotten/generated it's information [license, resources, etc., etc.]-OR- it whould have[SHOULD HAVE] overwritten the most current, which would have been the "tuct1..."

If there were problems during the installation I have seen two User Id folders, but not for a long time. The upgrade to Logos 5 should have re-used the "tuct1 ..." folder and you should not have ended up with 3 User Id's! Which means you can delete the "tuct1...." and "ay1xo...." folders in both Data and Documents, leaving the single L5 folder "ua2dsk....", which should also be in both Data & Documents folders.

Room4more:
Sorry to disappoint you.

To the contrary, I'm disappointed by your reaction to my questions.

To which I again replied:

Room4more:

Dave Hooton:

Room4more:
-then L5 install on the NEW hd would have generated the same sequential numbering/lettering of account folder(s).

A new install generates a new random User Id. So that picture is what I would expect (the Users folder ties your account Signin details to that User Id).

So then whats your problem? Why do you think I manipulated the system?

Dave Hooton:

Room4more:
-If what you say is true then I would have a duplicate folder name "tuct1...." in the same Logos4/data/ since that would be the most current folder by which the upgrade to L5 would have gotten/generated it's information [license, resources, etc., etc.]-OR- it whould have[SHOULD HAVE] overwritten the most current, which would have been the "tuct1..."

If there were problems during the installation I have seen two User Id folders, but not for a long time. The upgrade to Logos 5 should have re-used the "tuct1 ..." folder and you should not have ended up with 3 User Id's! Which means you can delete the "tuct1...." and "ay1xo...." folders in both Data and Documents, leaving the single L5 folder "ua2dsk....", which should also be in both Data & Documents folders.

Well there were no problems with the initial install of L4, then there was an 'update' of L4 - again no problems, a package update so to speak; then the UPGRADE to L5 - again no problems.

So again whats your problem? Maybe LogosHQ isn't as forth coming with intel to you as you may have thought - Maybe they have withheld pertinant config details that are perhaps just too much for you, perhaps<?> AND that is WHY no one from HQ has gotten invloved with our little conversation(s)....perhaps<?>

Dave Hooton:

Room4more:
Sorry to disappoint you.

To the contrary, I'm disappointed by your reaction to my questions.

Funny, I get the distinct impression that you are, I said -NO- seems pretty straight forward to me. I know what I have -you don't. I know what I have and have not purchased -you don't. Why would you want to make a brash assumption that you know.....when the reality is you DO not.[am I talking to XXXX? it seems like it] Moving forward - your assumptions are/were wrong.

And in passing I added:

Room4more:

Dave Hooton:

Room4more:
-then L5 install on the NEW hd would have generated the same sequential numbering/lettering of account folder(s).

A new install generates a new random User Id. So that picture is what I would expect (the Users folder ties your account Signin details to that User Id).

Dave,

I think that I still have my winXP laptop. Let me check, because that would have the L3 upgrade to L4 all on it, then the appropriate 'updates' of L4. It might take a few hours or so but If I remember correctly, I believe that the same scenario existed.....which always concerned me that I had "dead folders" -be patient, you might be surprised.

R4m

 

There thats better. This contains the flow of "continuity" thats needed to follow any conversation. Let us not keep starting new threads like was done just a week or two ago. Let's stay right here.......we are not engaged in scripting call/sub-call routines. So let us move forward and hold to the continuous flow.....shall we.

R4m.

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 8 2013 1:28 PM

Room4more:
This contains the flow of "continuity" thats needed to follow any converation.

I will keep my posts all in one thread for you.

You lose continuity when you insist on shouting (18pt fonts) and boldfacing eveything. (I'm sorry, are you struggling with poor eyesight?)

You lose continuity when you have so many typographical errors or mispelled words in every post (converation.)

You especially lose your readers when you talk down to others. 

Now where did I put my wacky graphics box? 

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 8 2013 1:30 PM

Room4more:
Personally, I do not appreciate starting another thread

Except, of course, when you're the one doing the starting: -Problem doing a morph search in the NKJV.

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 8 2013 1:44 PM

Super Tramp:

Room4more:
This contains the flow of "continuity" thats needed to follow any converation.

I will keep my posts all in one thread for you.

You lose continuity when you insist on shouting (18pt fonts) and boldfacing eveything. (I'm sorry, are you struggling with poor eyesight?)

You lose continuity when you have so many typographical errors or mispelled words in every post (converation.)

You especially lose your readers when you talk down to others.

Now where did I put my wacky graphics box?

Thanks again for your kind words. [ and if I am, would not your comment be deemed ""disrespectful"" isn't that what you have been preaching for how many day's now. I knew you would do it....]

fgh:

Room4more:
Personally, I do not appreciate starting another thread

Except, of course, when you're the one doing the starting: -Problem doing a morph search in the NKJV.

So are you getting ready to hi-jack this like you did Ed's? if so, then thanks for the warning.

[you people's really are a hoot]

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 8 2013 2:05 PM

You still haven't figured out that you were the one hi-jacking Ed's thread? 

No, I have no intention of contributing to your and Dave's discussion. I only have one computer, onto which I have only installed Logos once, so the subject is far outside my expertise. But I know which one of you I would trust if I needed guidance.

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 8 2013 2:29 PM

Room4more:

Super Tramp:

Room4more:
This contains the flow of "continuity" thats needed to follow any converation.

I will keep my posts all in one thread for you.

You lose continuity when you insist on shouting (18pt fonts) and boldfacing eveything. (I'm sorry, are you struggling with poor eyesight?)

You lose continuity when you have so many typographical errors or mispelled words in every post (converation.)

You especially lose your readers when you talk down to others.

Now where did I put my wacky graphics box?

Thanks again for your kind words. [ and if I am, would not your comment be deemed ""disrespectful"" isn't that what you have been preaching for how many day's now. I knew you would do it....]

As an after thought about my script size. it is what the forum offers so that is what I have to use. Now if they would give me back the ability to use my own like I did before, oh how much more convenient that would be, it would not appear[by using their script] that I was yelling.

Maybe they will reconsider....

TO DAVE:

i won't post a screen shot but the winxp has the same scenario but just two: ay1x0.... and us2dsk..... i have to go, but will check back shortly.

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 8 2013 3:56 PM

Dave based on what you said to me earlier, heres another on yet another NEW hdd, and you can clearly see that the "userID" is quite different that the others I posted. Same process:

-download Logos(5)setup.exe

-load the same

-copy JUST the resources folder

-perpare, index, sync.

Enjoy:

 

 

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 8 2013 4:32 PM

Room4more:
As an after thought about my script size. it is what the forum offers so that is what I have to use. Now if they would give me back the ability to use my own like I did before, oh how much more convenient that would be, it would not appear[by using their script] that I was yelling

It is hard to comprehend everyone else is able to post with regular text and you were singled out by the forum moderators to post only in boldface and frequently with caps lock on.  Just hard to believe.

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