Video tutorial: Creating collections

Mark Barnes
Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭
edited November 20 in English Forum

I've made a video that demonstrates some of the more advanced ways of creating collections. It assumes a basic knowledge of collections, and covers search syntax in the collections pane, showing how to create true dynamic collections without relying on adding/removing individual resources. It concludes by giving the example of a dynamic collection of commentaries on John's gospel, which automatically excluding commentaries on John's letters.

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  • Robert Kostenbauder
    Robert Kostenbauder Member Posts: 76 ✭✭

    Thank you. This video is more useful than the ones on the website.

  • Keith Larson
    Keith Larson Member Posts: 1,133

    Thank you so much Mark. Your last three videos have been a great help.

  • Mitch Davis
    Mitch Davis Member Posts: 502 ✭✭

    Mark,

    Excellent work on showing us how to create collections.

    I did have one comment as it pertained to your last collection example on John. To make things simpler (less redundant) I chose this as my querie: type:commentary AND (title:john OR subject:john) ANDNOT 1st, 2nd, 3rd, epistles, "1 John", "2 John", "3 John", Revelation

    Thus, my question would be: what is the advantage of the redundant "subject:" in the ANDNOT section.? Would I be missing anything dynamically down the road. Seems to be I wouldn't but thought you might give me (and others) some insight.

    Thanks again! You and John (Fidel) have really done excellent work on your video tutorials. [Y]

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Mitch,

    The big problem is the decription field which can often contain references to other biblical books. On my system your search string would exclude both the ICC and WBC commentaries on John. I can't tell why the ICC is excluded, but the WBC is excluded because it's description field contains the word revelation: "a committment to scripture as divine revelation". Better safe than sorry, and include the subject in my view.

    Mark

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  • Robert Pavich
    Robert Pavich Member Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭

    Mark,

    Very nicely done...you're a natural teacher...

    Robert Pavich

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  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    I did have one comment as it pertained to your last collection example on John. To make things simpler (less redundant) I chose this as my querie: type:commentary AND (title:john OR subject:john) ANDNOT 1st, 2nd, 3rd, epistles, "1 John", "2 John", "3 John", Revelation

    Will this suggestion doesn't work, another user on another thread suggested the following, which is shorter but does work:

    type:commentary AND (title:john, subject:john) ANDNOT subject:("1
    John", "2 John", "3 John", "John, 1st", "John, 2nd", "John, 3rd",
    revelation, "epistles of john")

     

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  • Chuck Forsythe
    Chuck Forsythe Member Posts: 133 ✭✭

    Thank you Mark. This is helpful.

     

    Perhaps this would be a bit more simple if Logos could create a searchable field specific to each book of the Bible for each commentary. Something like this:

    • Type: Bible Commentary, Matthew
    • Type: Bible Commentary, Mark
    • Type: Bible Commentary, Luke
    • Type: Bible Commentary, John
    • ...
    • Type: Bible Commentary, 1 John
    • Type: Bible Commentary, 2 John
    • Type: Bible Commentary, 3 John
    • Type: Bible Commentary, Jude
    • Type: Bible Commentary, Revelation

     

    OR, MAYBE (if this is a Boolean term <grin>) there could be more consistency with the names of the subject fields so that 3rd John appears only as 3rd John ANDNOT John, 3rd; OR III John; 3 John; OR John, third; OR ...

    There seems to be a raft load of subjects for the general epistles

    • commentaries.--John, 1st)
    • N.T.-- 1st John
    • etc., etc., etc.

     

    Chuck

     

  • Roger King
    Roger King Member Posts: 105 ✭✭

    Thanks Mark! Another great and helpful video.

  • Mitch Davis
    Mitch Davis Member Posts: 502 ✭✭

    ...

    ANDNOT subject:("1
    John", "2 John", ....

    Yes, that would work! Thanks Mark (and you, too, Dave!)

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Yes, Chuck, consistency within the subject metadata is very important and sadly lacking. The new collections feature has exposed this problem, which has been around since Logos 2. Hopefully they will address this in the future.

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  • LaRosa Johnson
    LaRosa Johnson Member Posts: 603

    another great video Mark. thanks again!

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  • Terry Poperszky
    Terry Poperszky Member Posts: 1,576

    Mark, truly an excellent tutorial. For me, not as much about the collections as how well L4 handles the search syntax.

     

     

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,760

    ...

    ANDNOT subject:("1
    John", "2 John", ....

    Yes, that would work! Thanks Mark (and you, too, Dave!)

    And this is the ultimate for brevity:-

    type:commentary (title:john,subject:john) -subject:("1 John","2 John","3 John","John,1st","John,2nd","John, 3rd",revelation,"epistles of john")

    although this is more readable (with spaces after commas):-

    type:commentary (title:john, subject:john) -subject:("1 John", "2 John", "3 John", "John, 1st", "John, 2nd", "John, 3rd", revelation, "epistles of john")

    You can use - for ANDNOT in searches (as well as ,  for OR and space for AND).

    Dave
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  • Pastor R L Jones Jr
    Pastor R L Jones Jr Member Posts: 6 ✭✭

    Mark,

     

    Just viewed your video.  It is on point and very helpful.

    Thanks for sharing.

    Robert Jones

  • Dragan Nicolae
    Dragan Nicolae Member Posts: 2

    Thank you , Mark ! 

    Any tutorial is welcome! Especially the good one like yours! [Y]

     

    In Jesus blessing