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David Jordan | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Apr 15 2013 9:21 AM

Two questions.

1. Is there a way to hide the command window? I don't use it, and need the real estate.

2. Is there a way to move the "layouts" tab back over to the left side of the window? I just installed the logos 5 mac engine a few weeks ago and need it moved. Why? I usually have logos and ms word open, so I can study and write as I go. With the layouts to the right side, I have to resize the window while I'm working to switch between saved layouts.

Thanks for the help! Appreciate all the excellent work that goes into Logos!

DJ

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 15 2013 9:29 AM

1. Is there a way to hide the command window? I don't use it, and need the real estate

Not that I am aware of

2. Is there a way to move the "layouts" tab back over to the left side of the window? I just installed the logos 5 mac engine a few weeks ago and need it moved. Why? I usually have logos and ms word open, so I can study and write as I go. With the layouts to the right side, I have to resize the window while I'm working to switch between saved layouts.

Not that I am aware of.

I am running a windows version of Logos, so there may be something in the Mac UI that is different and allows for this.

 

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 15 2013 2:15 PM

David Jordan:
Is there a way to move the "layouts" tab back over to the left side of the window? I just installed the logos 5 mac engine a few weeks ago and need it moved. Why? I usually have logos and ms word open, so I can study and write as I go. With the layouts to the right side, I have to resize the window while I'm working to switch between saved layouts.

I'm puzzled by this as there is no need to resize the window. When you click on the main Logos window in order to select a layout. This will bring the window to the front where the Layouts menu will be exposed. Even if you move the Layouts button to the left, Logos will still come to the front when you click on it to select the desired layout.

David Jordan:
Is there a way to hide the command window? I don't use it, and need the real estate.

Perhaps you should learn to use it, as it can become a really good time-saver.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 15 2013 2:22 PM

Jack Caviness:
I'm puzzled by this as there is no need to resize the window.

I think that David is saying that he uses Word & Logos side by side. I tried thinking of a solution and couldn't come up with one. You could float panels, but it wouldnt include a layout button. Is there a keyboard shortcut for layouts?

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 15 2013 4:59 PM

David Jordan:
Why? I usually have logos and ms word open, so I can study and write as I go. With the layouts to the right side, I have to resize the window while I'm working to switch between saved layouts.

The Layouts button is fixed. However, a screenshot would help us appreciate how you work with Word and Logos.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 15 2013 5:16 PM

alabama24:
I think that David is saying that he uses Word & Logos side by side.

I understand that, but it is still true that when he clicks on the Logos window in order to select a layout, Logos will come to the front exposing the Layout menu. Therefore, there is no need to resize the window.

alabama24:
Is there a keyboard shortcut for layouts?

No, but layouts can be placed on the Tool Bar for easy access. I have a few there. The icons are not very definitive, but I tend to remember what I put there. In any case, hovering the mouse will give a popup with the name of the layout.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 15 2013 5:44 PM

Jack Caviness:
I understand that, but it is still true that when he clicks on the Logos window in order to select a layout, Logos will come to the front exposing the Layout menu. Therefore, there is no need to resize the window.

Forget the jumbled Logos panels, but this is something like what he is doing (I presume). 

If you stretch Logos out so that the layout menu is visible, part of the layout is hidden by Word.

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David Jordan | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 15 2013 6:59 PM

Layouts on the toolbar is helpful. Here is a screen grab. You all understood my layout issue well.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 15 2013 7:16 PM

David Jordan:
Here is a screen grab.

If you use a .png or .jpg, it will appear in the thread. Using the normal Mac screen shot commands should produce a .png for you.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 16 2013 12:36 AM

David Jordan:
Layouts on the toolbar is helpful. Here is a screen grab. You all understood my layout issue well.

If you get a PC you can still see the Layouts menu!

Have Logos full size with your work panes on the RHS and place Word in the opposite half.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 16 2013 3:37 AM

David Jordan:
Here is a screen grab.

Why drag the Logos window until half of it is off-screen? Is there some reason you cannot place Word on the right half of the screen with Logos to the right. Then, your layouts menu would be behind Word. You will need to click on Logos to access the Layout menu no matter how you place the windows, and this action will bring the Layouts menu in front of Word providing access. I have two displays, so my layout would need reconfiguration to fully illustrate my recommendation.

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David Jordan | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 16 2013 6:27 AM

Jack, what sort of use do you find for it? I'm willing to learn.

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David Jordan | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 16 2013 6:29 AM

Jack - I like your work around with Word slightly smaller vertically.

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Mike | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 16 2013 8:44 AM

Hi David,

There is no option for moving those items. Shuffling windows like Jack suggested may be helpful, or using CMD+TAB to toggle between windows instead of viewing side by side could be helpful. Personally, I'd say the complexity of the work your doing is worth expanding your work area.

You can get a 23" monitor for pretty cheap these days. That may be a huge help for your workflow, allowing you to put Word on one screen and Logos on the other - or even word+floated logos panels and the main window with the menu on the other screen.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 16 2013 11:26 AM

David Jordan:

Jack, what sort of use do you find for it? I'm willing to learn.

My primary use of the Command Field is to open resources without resorting to the Library window. Just start typing—author's name or resource name—Logos will offer you several options. Just click the one you want. NOTE: Chose Zerwick because there would be just two resources. Had I chosen Carson, the list would have be humongous. The forum seems to be ignoring carriage returns from Safari, and does not display the More button from FireFox Sad
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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 17 2013 6:39 PM

Peace, Jack!           *smile*                               I also just like you use the command window for the same purposes.

              I was surprised, though, just now,             .....  just for fun I typed Carson into the box and although I have many of his volumes, only 5 showed up       ....        here's a screen shot  ...           I expected a lot more   ....

Anyway, Blessings Jack!

Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 17 2013 7:45 PM

Milford Charles Murray:
              I was surprised, though, just now,             .....  just for fun I typed Carson into the box and although I have many of his volumes, only 5 showed up       ....        here's a screen shot  ...           I expected a lot more   ....

The command line dropdown menu only displays the top five matches. You can narrow it down by typing a word from the title you're looking for, e.g.

If you're not sure what books by Carson you have in your library and want to see a list of them all, the command line is not the best way to do it. Filtering in the library (author:carson) is the best way:

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 17 2013 10:21 PM

Thanks Rosie!           *smile*                  A big Blessing to you, eh???

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 18 2013 3:20 AM

Rosie Perera:
The command line dropdown menu only displays the top five matches.

Thought about that when I read Milford's response.

Rosie Perera:
If you're not sure what books by Carson you have in your library and want to see a list of them all, the command line is not the best way to do it. Filtering in the library (author:carson) is the best way:

True, but I was answering the question, "What use do you find for the command box?"

Another answer to that original question: I needed to type "Rebuild Bible Index" to correct a crash just yesterday. Without the Command Field there is no way to enter this command, unless, of course, you had created a shortcut on the tool bar.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 18 2013 4:08 AM

Jack Caviness:

Rosie Perera:
If you're not sure what books by Carson you have in your library and want to see a list of them all, the command line is not the best way to do it. Filtering in the library (author:carson) is the best way:

True, but I was answering the question, "What use do you find for the command box?"

I know, but I was answering Milford not you. Sorry if we got off of the original subject of this thread.

Like you, my primary use of the command bar is to open resources without resorting to the Library window. There is a quick reference of Logos Commands that work in the command bar on the wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_4_Commands

Other uses I have found for the command bar include:

  • importing my documents from Libronix via the Import All command (and its variants) -- documented in the Logos Help File, but not the wiki I just realized
  • lookup {word} to do a quick dictionary lookup of an English word
  • scan command when I've had to restore a missing resource that I bought when I had an old version of Logos
  • opening a resource when I know only its LLS code using the command LLS:{Resource ID}
  • update resources when I can't find a resource that I know I should have
  • Set Update Channel to {default|stable|beta} when I was in and out of the beta testing program (which I don't have time for anymore)
  • FSD (Facilitate Serendipitous Discovery) - used to use it occasionally but keep forgetting it exists

All the other commands documented on the wiki page seem redundant to me (there's no way I'd type in some long command like "Set Hebrew Transliteration Format to {Transliteration Name}" instead of opening Program Settings and changing a setting there). I'm thinking these commands were probably created for automation purposes.

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