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Juanita | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 12 2009 9:01 AM

Thomas Black:

Right, and they do give you an idea of how useful the Morris Proctor Seminar's might be to you.

I went to one in Chicago once and ended up helping Morris by assisting other users rather than listening.  He's truly a classy guy.

Thomas, Because I started this thread and have been positive about John Fallahee's cd, doesn't mean I don't also think Morris Proctor's training materials are all very helpful.  I bought Camp Logos 1 and Camp Logos 2 dvds, his training manuals and his cd series.  He's great, but, for me, not practical.  There are no Camp Logos' scheduled anywhere near me in 2010 and his cd's aren't out yet.  And frankly, I cannot afford them, although I want them. 

I benefited from all the Logos videos on the training page and each instructor brought unique insights; I valued the differences among the instructors.  The videos may have the same title but I love the singularity of approaches each individual brings to the subject matter.  L4 is that diverse that it allows for multiple avenues of tutelage.  IMHO

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 12 2009 9:02 AM

Joan Korte:
Thomas, Because I started this thread and have been positive about John Fallahee's cd, doesn't mean I don't also think Morris Proctor's training materials are all very helpful. 
I never thought otherwise Joan, I was merely commenting on my own experience with Mo.

To quote my brothers from down under, "No worries mate".

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Juanita | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 12 2009 9:12 AM

And, Thomas, although I directed what I said to you, I am always conscious that what I say can be read by a lot of people and I want to be fair and not misunderstood.  Thanks!

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John Fallahee | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 13 2009 5:20 PM

Hi Everybody,

Thanks for your interest in these interactive videos.

Based on your discussions, I thought it might be helpful to post another interactive video on a more advanced Logos 4 feature - Visual Filters.

This video shows you how to use visual filters with a Bible, Book, and Greek Morphological Bible.

This is a Logos forum freebie exlusive link: http://www.learnlogos.com/logos/ No where else can you get this interactive video.

By the way, you no longer have to switch screens (alt tab) or use two computers because the interaction is just like being in the program!

I would be happy to answer any more of your questions via email ilovelogos4@learnlogos.com

Note: You can fast forward through the training by clicking the forward menu button at the bottom of the training video and therefore not interact with the video.  Hence, the training videos can double as interactive and non-interactive videos.

John Fallahee
www.learnlogos.com
GO INTERACTIVE!

Logos 4 is your personal research assistant; this interactive training CD is your personal training assistant.
Don't just take home training...take home the TRAINER!
Interactive Training for Logos 4, a New & Better world of training!

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 13 2009 7:14 PM

John Fallahee:

Based on your discussions, I thought it might be helpful to post another interactive video on a more advanced Logos 4 feature - Visual Filters.

This video shows you how to use visual filters with a Bible, Book, and Greek Morphological Bible.

This is a Logos forum freebie exlusive link: http://www.learnlogos.com/logos/ No where else can you get this interactive video.

John, would you mind if we linked to that video from the Logos wiki as well? I view the wiki as kind of an extension of the forum. I've been maintaining a page there of links to free video tutorials. A link there could introduce more viewers to your interactive videos. This particular one is very helpful. Thank you for sharing the free sample.

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John Fallahee | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 14 2009 7:16 AM

Sure! Thanks! Please be sure to mention the website www.learnlogos.com so they can learn more about interactive training.

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Scott K | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 14 2009 8:08 AM

John Fallahee:
Based on your discussions, I thought it might be helpful to post another interactive video on a more advanced Logos 4 feature - Visual Filters.

John, yes, this was helpful and earned you a sale.  Nice work on the tutorial.  I have never purchased any sort of software tutorial program before, but you sold me -- I learned something!

Blessings,
Scott

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Martin Folley | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 14 2009 10:19 AM

Thanks John for the video ... but it too big!  I cannot seem to get it to play on my laptop, and it does not seem to be scalable. Am I missing something? or is it just for this particular web-hosted video?

 

Regards

2010 17" MBP with High Sierra, iPad4 with iOS10.

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Roger King | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 14 2009 10:34 AM

Martin Folley:

Thanks John for the video ... but it too big!  I cannot seem to get it to play on my laptop, and it does not seem to be scalable. Am I missing something? or is it just for this particular web-hosted video?

 

Regards

Try pushing the F11 key to get rid of the buttons/etc. on your browser. After I did this the video fit in my screen.

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Martin Folley | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 14 2009 12:25 PM

RogerKing:
Try pushing the F11 key to get rid of the buttons/etc. on your browser. After I did this the video fit in my screen.

Thanks Roger, a good idea.

Unfortunately, still no joy. In full screen mode, judging from the scroll bars, I can only see about 3/4 of the height and 3/4 of the width. My screen resolution (Laptop) is maxed out at 1024x768.

 

2010 17" MBP with High Sierra, iPad4 with iOS10.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 14 2009 2:51 PM

Martin Folley:

Thanks John for the video ... but it too big!  I cannot seem to get it to play on my laptop, and it does not seem to be scalable. Am I missing something? or is it just for this particular web-hosted video?

Try holding down the Ctrl key and rolling the scroll wheel on your mouse down a bit (assuming you have the kind of mouse that has one). This resizes the entire contents of your browser window. (I'm only trying it with the sample video which runs inside the browser; I'm not sure how the shipped versions of the videos work or if they pay attention to the Ctrl+mouse-scroll feature of Windows).

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 14 2009 2:53 PM

Rosie Perera:

Martin Folley:

Thanks John for the video ... but it too big!  I cannot seem to get it to play on my laptop, and it does not seem to be scalable. Am I missing something? or is it just for this particular web-hosted video?

Try holding down the Ctrl key and rolling the scroll wheel on your mouse down a bit (assuming you have the kind of mouse that has one). This resizes the entire contents of your browser window. (I'm only trying it with the sample video which runs inside the browser; I'm not sure how the shipped versions of the videos work or if they pay attention to the Ctrl+mouse-scroll feature of Windows).

I just realized you probably don't have a mouse with a scroll wheel if you're using a laptop. Tongue Tied You can plug one in, but perhaps you wouldn't want to buy one just for this. And maybe there is some way to access that feature from your laptop touchpad that would eliminate the need to buy an external mouse if you don't want one. Some touchpads have a scroll-sensitive area on the right side which can be enabled/disabled through the Control Panel. I would expect this should do the trick.

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 14 2009 3:27 PM

Though this wasn't something I'd buy for myself...I'd DEFINITELY recommend it to a few Logos users that I know...it's great for a new user.

Well done John...and for 20.00 bucks? I spend more than that at Arbys in a visit.... Surprise

Robert Pavich

For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__

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John Fallahee | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 14 2009 4:10 PM

Hi Martin,

The link below is for the the Visual Filter feature.  

This is an exmple of the low-resolution training videos for your 1024 x 768 screen.

Every CD come with two sets of videos to fit your screen (hi-res, low-res)

http://www.learnlogos.com/logos/800x600/

Enjoy!

John

 

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Rev. D. | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 14 2009 4:58 PM

John,

Is there anyway to run the video without the pauses? I have Logos 4 on a laptop and desktop, so I'll run it on one computer while the video plays in the other. 

Thanks!

Christina

 

 

iMac 27 inch, 3.1 GHz Core i5, 1T HD, 4 GB RAM

 

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John Fallahee | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 14 2009 5:51 PM

Hi Christiana,

These are interactive videos, and therefore, they are designed to pause, and allow you to interact.

The training simulates using an actual Logos program and therefore its like being in Logos.

However, you can click on the forward menu button below the video, and skip the interaction. But that will require a mouse lick.

If you want non-interactive videos, then go to www.logos.com/videos.

if I may ask, why do you run the vidoes on one computer and use Logos on another?  What are you trying to do?

- John

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Martin Folley | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 15 2009 12:50 AM

Rosie Perera:
Try holding down the Ctrl key and rolling the scroll wheel on your mouse down a bit

 

@ Rosie

Thanks Rosie.

Is this the same as <ctrl>+ and <crtl>- ? The flash video does not scale with the images or texts.

 

@John

Thanks John.

Just watched the video. I liked it, except for the pauses! Subject to DVD space, what are the chances on having non-pausing versions?

 

@Logos !

When will the <ctrl>+ and <crtl>- keyboard shortcuts be implemented for non-graphical resources (ala most web browsers)? My tired eyes, changing laptop positiion and different layouts often require a change in font size, which I would like to do 'dynamically' rather than drag a slider and check, then drag the slider again ...

 

2010 17" MBP with High Sierra, iPad4 with iOS10.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 15 2009 1:02 AM

Martin Folley:

Rosie Perera:
Try holding down the Ctrl key and rolling the scroll wheel on your mouse down a bit

@ Rosie

Is this the same as <ctrl>+ and <crtl>- ? The flash video does not scale with the images or texts.

Yes, it is. 

Martin Folley:

Just watched the video. I liked it, except for the pauses! Subject to DVD space, what are the chances on having non-pausing versions? 

The pauses are the whole point of the interactive video. You're supposed to do the things he asks you to do in the mock-up version of Logos, right there in the video. The video won't continue until you do it. It's supposed to give you practice so you learn the steps. You're not meant to be doing them simultaneously in a version of Logos running alongside, as other people have been trying to do. However I'm with you on this. I think you (and many people) would learn the skills better by trying them out in your own installation of Logos at your own pace, and pausing the video when you need to, not at every single step. It does get kind of pedantic after a while. I've only gone through the demo video, but I wouldn't buy this product for myself, and I'd have a hard time recommending it to others for that reason.

Martin Folley:

@Logos !

When will the <ctrl>+ and <crtl>- keyboard shortcuts be implemented for non-graphical resources (ala most web browsers)? My tired eyes, changing laptop positiion and different layouts often require a change in font size, which I would like to do 'dynamically' rather than drag a slider and check, then drag the slider again ...

Since this request to Logos is buried in a thread that it has nothing to do with (at least on the surface -- looking at the Topic line), a thread that the Logos employees watching the Forum might have already read sufficiently to decide they don't need to follow it anymore, it is likely not to get noticed here. I suggest you repeat it in the Suggestions forum.

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John Fallahee | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 15 2009 5:02 AM

Hey Martin,

If I included a non-interactive video with the interactive videos would you want the product? Because that is real easy to do.

By the way, you can click the forward button in the menu below the video, and skip the interaction.

Please remember, because this simulates Logos 100%, it's like using Logos, no steps are left out in the training. Plus, it's real reasy to review any step with the rewind menu button.

- John

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Bobby Terhune | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 15 2009 6:04 AM

John,

I think you would have better over all sales if you offered both a interactive and noninteractive version on the CD. I ordered your product, but I am not a beginner and I could see that the pace that you go in, in the interactive mode could wear me down a bit. My main reason for ordering your product was to get a grasp of the "new" way of doing things in Logos 4.

Did you see the videos on Mark Barnes web site? In my opinion these are the best out there, and opened the power of Logos up to me in a wonderful way.

http://www.4-14.org.uk/logos-bible-software-tutorial-videos

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