NIVAC Sale

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Jesse Blevins | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 2 2013 5:48 AM

I picked up the Old Testament books and outside of some of them not having a linked table of contents the material is fine. With some creative searching you can find your way to the section of the book that you may be looking for.    

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Edwin Bowden | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 2 2013 6:26 AM

Mark Barnes:

Jason rust:
I have a read a lot of comments about the poor quality of the kindle editions.  Anyone have perspective on that?

I haven't bought any of the NIVAC commentaries, but I was very disappointed with the quality of another commentary I bought. To be fair to Amazon, reading the text is fine, but the OCR has failed pretty spectacularly. So searching is hopeless, and copy/paste is full of errors.

Mark,

I have only bought a few Kindle items that were unavailable in Logos. I was very disappointed in the quality. Doing copy/paste is especially difficult. Have to proofread everything and make corrections to what was pasted. 

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elnwood | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 6 2013 4:16 PM

Now most of them are at $4.74 each. (John, 1 Corinthians, and Revelation are $4.99).

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Scott S | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 9 2013 2:30 PM

Mark Barnes:
I was very disappointed with the quality of another commentary I bought. To be fair to Amazon, reading the text is fine, but the OCR has failed pretty spectacularly. So searching is hopeless, and copy/paste is full of errors.

Mark (and Edwin):

Thanks for mentioning the existence of these kinds of problems with Kindle books.  This changes the calculation on their value. 

I'm spoiled by Logos quality and made an obvious error assuming other formats had similar accuracy.

At Zondervan's website, the NIVAC's can be purchased at different retailers which appear to have other electronic book formats, for instance CBD sells ePub. 

What is known about the quality of the other ebook formats?

Scott

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Matt Haywood | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 18 2013 5:29 AM

Also, everyone should note that not all of the volumes are available as Kindle editions. The question would be whether or not you wanted to switch in and out of programs to take notes, etc. One other thing I will throw out there is that I have heard of issues with Kindle and ownership rights. For example, Chalies.com or one of the Christian blog sites reported once that everyone should understand that when you purchase a Kindle book, you are actually leasing the information. There have been cases where someone was suspected of monkey business with their Kindle account and lost all of their digital material from Kindle. I don't think you would ever have to worry about this with Logos. And, Kindle has a copy/paste restriction limit with all of their books. If you are going to be using these resources on a regular basis and copying from them, you will only get so many attempts to copy and paste before it will no longer let you. This could be a problem for some of you.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 18 2013 6:12 AM

Hi Matt! Welcome to the forums. Smile

Matt Haywood:
when you purchase a Kindle book, you are actually leasing the information

I agree with you about the superiority of Logos resources… but you should know that this is true of ALL digital resources. When you purchase music from iTunes, a movie, software, or a book, you are purchasing a license to that resource. That isn't unique to Kindle.

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Edwin Bowden | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 18 2013 9:36 PM

Matt Haywood:

Kindle has a copy/paste restriction limit with all of their books. If you are going to be using these resources on a regular basis and copying from them, you will only get so many attempts to copy and paste before it will no longer let you. This could be a problem for some of you.

I have run into that problem. I have to proof-read anything that I copy from Kindle. Doesn't copy well.

Then I ran into the limit restriction which I wasn't aware of. Certainly reduces their value to me.

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Jesse Blevins | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 21 2013 6:01 AM

There is some new ones for the old testament on sale today on kindle. Check them out! 

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Jacob Conley | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 20 2014 5:56 AM

Also, if u want to pick and choose which commentaries are best in the set, especially if you are low on funds, go to: http://bestcommentaries.com/topseries/  This website is from Denver Seminary and show reviews from D. A. Carson, Tremper Longman, etc.

 Hope this helps 

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Jacob Conley | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 20 2014 6:02 AM

This link will show the featured reviewers: http://bestcommentaries.com/reviewers/

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Jacob Conley | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 20 2014 6:14 AM

Unfortunately, this is true! Some of the books are difficult to search. The good thing is they will refund your money within seven days of the purchase. So u could try it out and see if it's problematic for your situation. I own a kindle Fire HD by the way. another problem is that u can't copy and paste like u can on logos software.

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 20 2014 7:21 AM

Edwin Bowden:

Mark Barnes:

Jason rust:
I have a read a lot of comments about the poor quality of the kindle editions.  Anyone have perspective on that?

I haven't bought any of the NIVAC commentaries, but I was very disappointed with the quality of another commentary I bought. To be fair to Amazon, reading the text is fine, but the OCR has failed pretty spectacularly. So searching is hopeless, and copy/paste is full of errors.

Mark,

I have only bought a few Kindle items that were unavailable in Logos. I was very disappointed in the quality. Doing copy/paste is especially difficult. Have to proofread everything and make corrections to what was pasted. 

Really?  That has not been my experience at all.  I have found that an older version of Kindle, rather than the Windows 8 one is much better for copy and paste and search.  But I surely do not find it difficult, especially for commentaries.  And I have produced some great Logos books from them with just little editing for my personal use.  I wouldn't have a C. S. Lewis collection without them.

"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 20 2014 8:03 AM


Michael Childs:

Edwin Bowden:

Mark Barnes:

Jason rust:
I have a read a lot of comments about the poor quality of the kindle editions.  Anyone have perspective on that?

I haven't bought any of the NIVAC commentaries, but I was very disappointed with the quality of another commentary I bought. To be fair to Amazon, reading the text is fine, but the OCR has failed pretty spectacularly. So searching is hopeless, and copy/paste is full of errors.

Mark,

I have only bought a few Kindle items that were unavailable in Logos. I was very disappointed in the quality. Doing copy/paste is especially difficult. Have to proofread everything and make corrections to what was pasted. 

Really?  That has not been my experience at all.  I have found that an older version of Kindle, rather than the Windows 8 one is much better for copy and paste and search.  But I surely do not find it difficult, especially for commentaries.  And I have produced some great Logos books from them with just little editing for my personal use.  I wouldn't have a C. S. Lewis collection without them.

I agree with Michael on this.  I uninstalled the Windows 8 app because it didn't work well at all, but the Windows 7 Desktop version works much better for me.  You can use the Windows 7 program on Windows 8.

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 20 2014 8:26 AM

What I would really like to know about this is:

Are there any volumes of the NIV Application Commentary available in the Zondervan sale that are NOT available in Logos?

Since I have this set in Logos, I would only be interested in getting what Logos doesn't carry.  At that price I would use them until Logos editions become available.

"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley

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Paul Strickert | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 20 2014 9:02 AM

No.  The Z sale includes the same 42 that Logos sells.  The only volumes still to be published in the series are Ezra-Nehemiah and Psalms 2.

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 20 2014 10:58 AM

I would be happy if the NIVAC just had dynamic pricing!

Disclaimer:  I hate using messaging, texting, and email for real communication.  If anything that I type to you seems like anything other than humble and respectful, then I have not done a good job typing my thoughts.

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