We need more books on the Doctrine of Hell

Page 1 of 4 (65 items) 1 2 3 4 Next >
This post has 64 Replies | 4 Followers

Posts 1699
JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, May 19 2013 12:19 PM

We need more books on the Doctrine of Hell and What Jesus specifically said about it?

I would begin with WHATEVER HAPPENED TO HELL? by John Blanchard.

Why isn't this important book in the Logos collection please?  

p.s. (Yes I know about Chan's book, Erasing Hell, thanks and no I am not interested AT ALL with Rob Bell's sad errant bestseller either).

Posts 6310
DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 19 2013 12:41 PM

No books on hell because many have become tolerant and only want to present a lovey dovey Jesus who tolerates sin and sinners.  Share your faith, share your love and share the love of Jesus with others and it's all about love and the kindness of God, but many have thrown aside the severity of God (Romans 11:22) and the fact that our God is a consuming fire (Hebrews 12:29) and that it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (Hebrews 10:31).  Seems like hell offends people and who are you to judge, etc. and therefore many play politics in the church.

That's what I've observed in many churches now days.  Some might like my comment, some my not, I'm not judging anybody, just stating facts.  And before some start giving me a fit about my comment, for the record: I'm not generalizing! I know there's still a remnant who remains faithful to God and presents His whole counsel like Paul, the great soldier of the Cross, did (Acts 20:26-27).

I try to be balanced in my preaching, but a lot of the preaching now days lacks Bible and focuses only on the "sweet" side of God which quite honestly, can become "cloying" over time.

By the way, "Cloying" is a word I looked up on the dictionary to translate my thoughts from Spanish to English, so hopefully the word was used correctly, if not, feel free to correct me ;-)

Happy Lord's Day!

DAL

Posts 13342
Forum MVP
Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 19 2013 2:07 PM

Joshua Lieder:
I would begin with WHATEVER HAPPENED TO HELL? by John Blanchard.

That's a good book, and it would be good to see it in Logos (the publisher has several books in Logos now, so perhaps this one will come one day).

In the meantime, you may like this one: http://www.logos.com/product/26689/hell-under-fire-modern-scholarship-reinvents-eternal-punishment

I doubt you'll like this one, but it's an important book: http://www.logos.com/product/20263/the-fire-that-consumes-a-biblical-and-historical-study-of-the-doctrine-of-final-punishment-3rd-ed

Posts 1928
Donovan R. Palmer | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 19 2013 2:31 PM

Don't forget the Zondervan Counterpoints 'Four Views of Hell'. Logos has a number of the Counterpoints books, but this one hasn't been released yet.

Posts 54
Tommy Miller | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 19 2013 3:24 PM

"Hell? Yes? (And Other Outrageous Truths You Can Still Believe)" by Robert Jeffress (Water Brook Press) has a wonderful chapter called "God Sends Good People to Hell." It is excellent. D. James Kennedy called the book "...a most provocative work..." It should be in Logos.

I find it very interesting that "Four Views on Hell" from the Counterpoints Series by Zondervan (William Crockett, Gen. Editor) is not available. At least 21 of the other Counterpoints books are on Logos, but not this one. Why not this topic?  Of course, with the price of Zondervan books on Logos it is definitely cheaper in print! I paid $6.99 for my copy. Counterpoint books are $14-$16 in sets on Logos!  Hey, Logos, can I buy the "paperback" edition?

Tony Evans preached a really good sermon called: "You Can Go to Hell!" The subtitle put it into perspective: "or You Can Go to Heaven."

My favorite sermon, however, is from the late Dr. Ken Connolly. In quiet tones of Scottish brogue he spoke simply on the Rich Man in Luke 16. He never raised his voice, he never shed a tear. But I wept for the Rich Man when he was finished.

Spurgeon mentioned "Hell" 9,860 times in my Logos collection on Spurgeon. He said this: "There are some ministers who never mention anything about hell. I heard of a minister who once said to his congregation, 'If you do not love the Lord Jesus Christ, you will be sent to that place which it is not polite to mention.' He ought not to have been allowed to preach again, I am sure, for he could not use plain words."
[C. H. Spurgeon, 2,200 Quotations: From the Writings of Charles H. Spurgeon : Arranged Topically or Textually and Indexed by Subject, Scripture, and People, ed. Tom Carter (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books, 1995). Exported from Logos Bible Software 5, 3:53 PM May 19, 2013.]

Spurgeon concluded another sermon this way:
I have not shunned to preach of hell with all its horrors, until I have been laughed at, as if I always preached upon it. I have not shunned to preach upon the most sweet and pleasing themes of the gospel, till I have feared lest I should make my preaching effeminate, instead of retaining the masculine vigour of a Boanerges. I have not shunned to preach the law; that great commandment has wrung in your ears, “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God, and thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.” I have never feared the great, nor have I courted their smile; I have rebuked nobility as I would rebuke the peasantry, and to everyone of you I have dealt a portion of meat in due season. I know that this much can be said of me—“Here stands one that never feared the face of man yet;” and I hope never will. Amidst contumely, and rebuke, and reproach, I have sought to be faithful to you and to my God. If then, you will be damned, let me have this one thing as a consolation for your misery, when I shall think of so frightful a thought—that you are not damned for the want of calling after; you are not lost for the want of weeping after, and not lost, let me add, for the want of praying after. In the name of him who shall judge the quick and dead according to my Gospel, and of him that shall come in the clouds of heaven, and by that fearful say when the pillars of this earth shall totter, and the heavens shall fall about your ears—by that day when “Depart, ye cursed,” or “Come, ye blessed,” must be the dread alternative, I charge you, lay these things to heart, and as I shall face my God to account for my honesty to you, and my faithfulness to him, so remember, you must stand before his bar, to give an account of how you heard, and how you acted after hearing; and woe unto you if, having been lifted up like Capernaum with privileges, you should be cast down like Sodom and Gomorrah, or lower still than they, because you repented not.
Oh! Master! turn sinners to thyself; for Jesus sake! Amen.

[C. H. Spurgeon, The New Park Street Pulpit Sermons, Vol. IV (London; Glasgow: Passmore & Alabaster; James Paul; George John Stevenson; George Gallie, 1858). Exported from Logos Bible Software 5, 4:14 PM May 19, 2013.]

Charles Spurgeon and Jesus Christ both had great results from preaching on Hell!

Core i7-2630QM CPU 2.00 GHz, 8 GB RAM, 64-Bit Windows 7 Professional SP1

Posts 26255
Forum MVP
MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 19 2013 7:13 PM

If you guys would cut the negative junk out of the above posts and simply ask for / give reasonable suggestions, I would respond with the following list of possibilities.

  • Christ the Conqueror of Hell: The Descent into Hades from an Orthodox Perspective by Archbishop Hilarion Alfeyev
  • Two Views of Hell: A Biblical & Theological Dialogue (Spectrum) by Edward William Fudge and Robert A. Peterson
  • The Nature of Heaven and Hell According to the Holy Fathers by Lazar Puhalo
  • Seeds of Heaven and Hell in the Heart: An Orthodox Perspective on Passions, Virtues, and Life After Death by Igumen Sergius Bowyer
  • Her Gates Will Never Be Shut: Hell, Hope, and the New Jerusalem by Bradley Jersak
  • Death and Afterlife: A Theological Introduction by Terence Nichols

I think the list is a reasonable list of contemporary work on the topic. They cover a range of views and respect tradition.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

Posts 8895
Forum MVP
Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 20 2013 1:03 AM

MJ. Smith:
If you guys would cut the negative junk out of the above posts and simply ask for / give reasonable suggestions

My observations is that most are not able to simply comment or suggest without showing their personal opinions on the matter and that often can come across as negative. We all must be careful to present our opinions/convictions in a way that is positive. Thanks for the reminder.

Using adventure and community to challenge young people to continually say "yes" to God

Posts 1602
Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 20 2013 3:47 AM

It seems like a good time to review the rules of the forum.  

Smile

Posts 1699
JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 20 2013 8:13 AM

Thanks everyone for the suggestions.  Smile

I might be missing something but I dont see any negative replies.

Maybe they were deleted already. I probably should have requested Protestant Evangelical (non-reformed) books on Hell.

Posts 846
Eric Weiss | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 20 2013 8:26 AM

Tommy Miller:

"Hell? Yes? (And Other Outrageous Truths You Can Still Believe)" by Robert Jeffress (Water Brook Press) has a wonderful chapter called "God Sends Good People to Hell." It is excellent. D. James Kennedy called the book "...a most provocative work..." It should be in Logos.

Robert Jeffress (pastor, FBC Dallas) and D. James Kennedy?

Top scholars on the subject, I'm sure. Zip it!

Meanwhile, here's an interesting book worth reading and having in Logos: The Formation of Hell: Death and Retribution in the Ancient and Early Christian Worlds

Optimistically Egalitarian (Galatians 3:28)

Posts 1699
JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 20 2013 8:35 AM

Its me Joshua the poster for this thread.....

i am preaching on What Jesus said about Hell and Why it Still Matters.

The title may give everyone an idea where I am headed "Their Worm Does Not Die"

Posts 107
Brandon Rappuhn | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 20 2013 8:36 AM

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but Hell Under Fire is a pretty good book on the topic, with a good perspective of opinions. I read a few essays from it a few years ago. Has anyone else read it?

https://www.logos.com/product/26689/hell-under-fire-modern-scholarship-reinvents-eternal-punishment

Posts 21846
Forum MVP
Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 20 2013 8:40 AM

HI Brandon

Brandon Rappuhn:
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but Hell Under Fire is a pretty good book on the topic, with a good perspective of opinions

I agree it is an interesting book (Mark Barnes referenced it in a post above as well) and that it does present a good range of opinions - while arguing for a particular position and understanding.

Well worth reading

Graham

Posts 107
Brandon Rappuhn | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 20 2013 8:49 AM

Joshua Lieder:

Its me Joshua the poster for this thread.....

i am preaching on What Jesus said about Hell and Why it Still Matters.

The title may give everyone an idea where I am headed "Their Worm Does Not Die"

The third essay in Hell under Fire specifically deals with Jesus' teachings on Hell, however, the writer (Robert W. Yarbrough) comes at it from a strongly anti-Jesus Seminar angle, rather than a general teachings-of-Jesus perspective. It's probably not what you're looking for for the purpose of your sermon. Chapter 10, written by Sinclair Ferguson, gives a pastoral theology on preaching and the subject of Hell. It might be more useful to you since it's a look at biblical theology on the matter.

Good luck!

Posts 8967
RIP
Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 20 2013 8:52 AM

Eric Weiss:
Robert Jeffress (pastor, FBC Dallas) and D. James Kennedy? Top scholars on the subject, I'm sure. Zip it!

Meanwhile, here's an interesting book worth reading and having in Logos: The Formation of Hell: Death and Retribution in the Ancient and Early Christian Worlds

= "My scholar can beat up your scholar."    Seriously, I would rather hear from the Ancient of Days than some modern sociologist. 

Logos 7 Collectors Edition

Posts 2964
tom | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 20 2013 9:08 AM

Bruce Dunning:

MJ. Smith:
If you guys would cut the negative junk out of the above posts and simply ask for / give reasonable suggestions

My observations is that most are not able to simply comment or suggest without showing their personal opinions on the matter and that often can come across as negative. We all must be careful to present our opinions/convictions in a way that is positive. Thanks for the reminder.

Yes

Posts 255
Sogol | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 20 2013 10:02 AM

One important Catholic work I'd like to see in Logos is Hans Urs von Balthasar's "Dare We Hope That All Men Be Saved? With a Short Discourse on Hell" (if my memory serves me correctly, I believe that then Cardinal Ratzinger was critical of it).

http://www.amazon.com/Dare-Hope-Saved-Short-Discourse/dp/0898702070

From an Orthodox perspective, there is always Bishop Kallistos Ware's "The Inner Kingdom: Volume 1 of the Collected Works" which includes a similarly titled essay "Dare We Hope For the Salvation of All?: Origen, St. Gregory of Nyssa and St Isacc the Syrian." Granted, this may be oriented more towards the question of universalism, but it nevertheless hits a bit on the topic of hell.

http://www.amazon.com/Inner-Kingdom-Collected-Works/dp/0881412090

Posts 9961
Forum MVP
NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 20 2013 11:45 PM

MJ. Smith:

  • Death and Afterlife: A Theological Introduction by Terence Nichols

This is in Vyrso, btw.

Running Logos 8 latest beta version on Win 10

Posts 26255
Forum MVP
MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 21 2013 12:38 AM

Thanks NB - I rarely check Vyrso except for patristic titles

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

Page 1 of 4 (65 items) 1 2 3 4 Next > | RSS