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BillS | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 18 2009 8:33 AM

MJ. Smith:

I study the Bible as part of an ongoing conversation with God, especially that part where I listen. Logos does not particularly help me in this. Logos helps me in developing materials to help others learn to listen as part of their ongoing conversation with God - and their conversations often help me in mine.

Martha,

I'll just say "me, too", because you've said it more eloquently than I could.

Bill

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Juanita | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 18 2009 9:04 AM

NancyDianeGunter:

I love to study God's Word because that's when I feel Him the closest, (is that a word), the most close.  I feel absolute peace when I am studying His Word.  It's like I'm not really studying but I am visiting Him at His house and we are sitting down with tea and just talking to each other and He's explaining the words there. 

Logos helps because it has the interlinear with the text and it's like the Word is cracked open and I see so much stuff that I want Him to explain.  I love being able to find all the verses for one greek or hebrew word.  Reading them all at once is amazing.  Before I had Logos it would take forever to find all the places some of the words were.  Sometimes it was just impossible.  Man, but now I can honestly do it in minutes!  I love being able to read all the different versions of the Bible for one verse or one passage of scripture.  And I absolutely love seeing the gospels side by side, I forget the word for it.  There is just so much I can do now in my Bible study that I couldn't do before.  And what is the best is my LORD is right beside me haviing just as much fun as me.  It just seems like there are more "ah ha" moments with Him than before.   I am disabled, my back keeps me in bed a lot.  ( 4 failed back surgeries).  I say that only to say I have a lot of time on my hands and when I am really hurting a lot, He takes my mind off the pain, time seems to pass quicker.

I love God and His Word, and I love Logos! 

Nancy,

You have a beautiful heart for the Lord and His Word which shines through your testimony.  Thanks for sharing!!!  God bless

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Bob | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 18 2009 9:23 AM

I would have to say that I study to come into fellowship. Fellowship with other Christians and through them with God, as well as directly with God.  As I age, it seems as if my brain doesn't work as well as it used to, (I don't remember how well it worked, but then that is part of the problem).  I can remember the contents of the verse but  just not where it occurs.  I am a scientist by training and a computer jock by whatever makes one such.  It was natural to turn to a computer to search references and then I discovered a whole world of exegetical studies under the words.  I used e-sword (and got a bit of a reputation using it in a Bible class where everyone else split between the KJV and the NIV.  The computer allows me to store and organize my notes (and back them up so I don't misplace them), and it gives me a very enhanced memory (as if I have memorized all of the volumes in LOGOS). Thus when there is something to comment on I have the reference right at hand. My regular classes are used to the computer but few if any of them will follow.  When a scripture topic presents itself in a class I can quickly write a note or two about it and then either bring it up in class or process it later off-line.  Doing a passage guide before the lesson gets me up to speed for a class quickly and easily. 

The only problem is that now  am reading more and have less time for TV.

 

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J. Morris | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 18 2009 10:16 AM

NancyDianeGunter:

I love to study God's Word because that's when I feel Him the closest, (is that a word), the most close.  I feel absolute peace when I am studying His Word.  It's like I'm not really studying but I am visiting Him at His house and we are sitting down with tea and just talking to each other and He's explaining the words there. 

Logos helps because it has the interlinear with the text and it's like the Word is cracked open and I see so much stuff that I want Him to explain.  I love being able to find all the verses for one greek or hebrew word.  Reading them all at once is amazing.  Before I had Logos it would take forever to find all the places some of the words were.  Sometimes it was just impossible.  Man, but now I can honestly do it in minutes!  I love being able to read all the different versions of the Bible for one verse or one passage of scripture.  And I absolutely love seeing the gospels side by side, I forget the word for it.  There is just so much I can do now in my Bible study that I couldn't do before.  And what is the best is my LORD is right beside me haviing just as much fun as me.  It just seems like there are more "ah ha" moments with Him than before.   I am disabled, my back keeps me in bed a lot.  ( 4 failed back surgeries).  I say that only to say I have a lot of time on my hands and when I am really hurting a lot, He takes my mind off the pain, time seems to pass quicker.

I love God and His Word, and I love Logos! 

 

Thank you for sharing your beautiful testimony.  I'm glad I "heard" it and I'm sure there are others, like you and like me, who need to hear it. 

If you don't currently have a personal blog page, I'd encourage you to look into it.  Putting your experiences with the Lord on a blog would allow others to be encouraged by your words. (Esp. those in a similar circumstance such as your who may not be experiencing the Love and Peace of God as He would like them to)

God bless, and thank you!

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 18 2009 12:35 PM

Robert Phillips:

The only problem is that now  am reading more and have less time for TV.

And that's a problem because... ???  :-)

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J Hale | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 20 2009 2:48 AM

As most people have said, I study the Bible to become close to God.

How Logos helps, is that it has A LOT of books that I can read. One major advantage of a electronic software program, like Logos, over print books, is that you can open a book to any page you want, and it will stay open, first page, last page, it doesn’t matter. Try that with any print book without spiral binding. Also the word search feature is AWESOME. It would be practically impossible to do any sort of word search in any print book. I really like the text comparison tab. It makes it so easy to read several different Bible versions at once. I’ve seen Bibles with one version on one side of the page, and some other version on the other side, like the King James Version and the New International Version, but with Logos you have at least 5 Bibles to compare, not only that, but you can even click on a tab to show the differences of the versions. I can highlight, make notes, and take them away, without ruining the books. I do feel like I am doing simple math problems with a scientific calculator, since I know Logos is SO powerful that I just don’t know how to tap Logos full potential. I know that I will use Logos for years in my quest in studying God‘s Word.

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 7:53 AM

Thanks everyone.  I was blessed by the posts in this thread.  And I identify with you.

"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley

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tom potter | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 23 2009 5:12 AM

i enjoy God comforting words and when an Idea jits home or especially when the Holy Spirit reveals scripture to me and it hits like a ton of bricks, and the tears come at knowing that God is right there with me.

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Glenn F | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 23 2009 3:54 PM

I study the word of God because it keeps me close to Him. When my study falters my feet start to wander from the narrow path. I seek to know Him and to love him and therefore obey him. I grew up in a charismatic very legalistic church background and was in constant fear of losing my salvation because I could not live up to all that was demanded. I to thought of suicide and that through life after death books led me into the New Age (Satan's trap) for about five years. But by the grace of God he led me back to Himself and that is when I first started studying the Bible for myself. I have been up and down still with wondering if my heart was sincere in repentance and salvation because of many falls and struggles. I also study for answers to my questions and to examine myself to see whether I be in the faith. I drive a truck over the road and that is where Logos, especially L4 is a true blessing to me. Can you imagine trying to cart a small theological library around with me in my truck Smile I don't get to attend church services very often out here on the road and when I do get to a truck stop chapel the staff there are usually volenteers who's main goal is to spread the Gospel to the drivers. (Praise God) But they are usually only lay Pastors themselves, so I use Logos and the commentaries and greek tools etc... to find answers that my heart needs right now. I use L4 a whole lot more than I used L3 because of the speed of searches with the passage guide and it is just a joy to dive into God's word. My problem is since I have upgraded to L4 and just a few days ago especially Platinum it is keeping me up too late at night and I am not very easy to get up in the morning.

Back to business I study because Jesus said that the path is narrow and few there be who find it. I figure if I stay close to Jesus and hold his hand and talk to him he will lead me home.

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 8 2010 3:49 PM

GlennFinch:
I drive a truck over the road and that is where Logos, especially L4 is a true blessing to me. Can you imagine trying to cart a small theological library around with me in my truck Smile

Glenn, it's great that you are back in the grip of His Grace!  And as an OTR driver, too!  Many blessings to you!

 

The key that has unlocked the door for me is seeing the importance of context.  Paul wrote letters to real people with real problems.  So did Peter, Luke, John, and more.  I stopped seeing the Bible as a collection of religious words and more of the story of God and his people--and his world.  I love seeing the promise theme threading from Genesis to Revelation.  I take delight in how John weaves themes in and out of his book, each setting the stage for what more is to come.  It excites me (and moves me to repentance) to see the slow build of Jesus' calling his disciples to pay attention to his words and not to the leaders of the day--how he blesses Peter when he confesses what he knows from God (you are a Rock!), to his rebuke when Peter imposes his own thinking (you are a Stumbling Block!), to how it all comes together on the Mount when the Lord booms: "Listen to Him!", and they look up and see "only Jesus."  Discoveries like this help me live the Bible in real time.  To put myself in their shoes, experiencing what I can and seeing how it lives out in my own life.  A favorite professor helped unlock this notion during my first "Bible Class" (1 Peter).  Logos has helped my carry on and go into greater depth.

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David Bailey | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 11 2010 4:35 PM

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I recently returned to studying the scriptures.  I am interested in biblical history, apologetics, and how the text of the Bible was preserved, translated, and interpreted from different viewpoints. In addition, I think it is important to know not only what we believe, but why.  Besides, it is fruitful to study God’s message.  I love how the Psalms starts:

“Oh, the joys of those who do not follow the advice of the wicked, or stand around with sinners, or join in with mockers. But they delight in the law of the LORD, meditating on it day and night. They are like trees planted along the riverbank, bearing fruit each season. Their leaves never wither, and they prosper in all they do.” (Psalm 1:1–3, NLT)

Studying the Bible isn’t just for the clergy, but for every Christian.  More so than ever, Man’s efforts to better himself without God – through science, technology, various philosophies (e.g. relativism, eastern mysticism, and so on), and theologies of other faiths – have been and continue to be integrated into our society.  Despite increasing persecutions for our faith, we are urged to “worship Christ as Lord of your life.  And if someone asks about your Christian hope, always be ready to explain it.” (1 Peter 3:15, NLT)

Logos has renewed my interests in Bible study by providing the research tools and numerous resources to compare Bible passages and view recent, scholarly works. I also like to compare commentaries and points of views. I don’t have the shelf space for all these resources, but I do have lots of disk space for the electronic versions.  Logos software meets those needs.

I first heard of Logos software back in 1997 or 98, and ever since had been thinking about buying a version for personal use. About ten years ago, I bought a copy for my father, but didn’t for myself. It all started a few weeks ago, when I was reading and commenting on Amazon about the movie, The Book of Eli.  It’s interesting (and sometimes quite shocking) to read other people’s opinions and views about Christianity and religion in general (the movie had Christian themes, but was not about Christianity). In my correspondence, I felt I needed a digital Bible and basic resources to use. Maybe I needed an excuse or perhaps I was tired of thinking about getting Logos.  Anyways, I am glad I did.

David

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Jim VanSchoonhoven | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 11 2010 7:56 PM

I belived in Christ 40 years ago as a 15 year old, that was raised in a home where I was loved, but I never heard  the gospel.  I latter became a youth pastor and then a pastor or as we call them, an elder!  I am currently working on a Doctors in Biblical Studies.  I study the bible for a very simple reason!

Jesus loves me this I know for the bible tells me so, little ones to Him belong  they are weak, but He is strong!!!  Over the last 40 years through all ups and downs, He has been faithful to me and has put a desire in me to experience His love for me, and I have been compelled to study the scriptures and He has always revealed more of His grace and love to me through the scriptures. I know of nowhere else to find this message of His great  love for me!  No other book shows me my sinfulness and then shows me a Savior that died for my sins to set me free to live a life forever bound up with Him in His new resurrected  life and His love!

In Christ,

Jim VanSchoonhoven

 

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 11 2010 8:51 PM

David Bailey:
I first heard of Logos software back in 1997 or 98, and ever since had been thinking about buying a version for personal use. About ten years ago, I bought a copy for my father, but didn’t for myself. It all started a few weeks ago, when I was reading and commenting on Amazon about the movie, The Book of Eli.  It’s interesting (and sometimes quite shocking) to read other people’s opinions and views about Christianity and religion in general (the movie had Christian themes, but was not about Christianity). In my correspondence, I felt I needed a digital Bible and basic resources to use. Maybe I needed an excuse or perhaps I was tired of thinking about getting Logos.  Anyways, I am glad I did.

Glad you made that decision, too, and that you're back to studying the Bible. Also glad to have you on the Logos forum. Welcome!

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Fred | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 11 2010 9:34 PM

I study the Bible to better understand Western man's greatest attempts to understand God.  Studying the Bible allows lowly me to draw slightly closer to God.

We were/are given the intellect to speak, to listen, to write, to read, and to create art and technology.  We were/are given the opportunity - the blessed chance - to apply our intellect for noble purposes.  Surely trying to understand God through technology is a reverent act.

I use Logos to better understand the details within Scripture.  Logos allows for greater and swifter understanding - by leaps and bounds and in orders of magnitude - of our Bible.

Fred

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J Hale | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 11 2010 10:42 PM

Bible study is like what some other posts have stated, is the only kind of study that matters, with that in mind, Logos, not only gives you a lot of books in its library, but also the ability to search those books too. Just imagine trying to find the word of love, or the number of times Jesus is mentioned in a book, now try hundreds, or even thousands of books. It can’t be done, in fact it would take longer for all the users of Logos to search for all the times a word is in one book, then Logos to search hundreds of word searches, in thousands of books. I have over 30 different English versions of the Bible, I can easily see the difference of the Bibles, with text comparison. I can jot down notes, and highlight, in ANY book, without destroying the book. I can easily read the references of the Bible, and other books that are in Logos, by hovering my mouse, or clicking the reference, to read the actual reference. It’s easer to read the footnotes, especially when the footnotes that are all put at the end of the chapter, or worse yet, put at the end of the book. If there are errors in the print book, or in the e-book, Logos can change those errors without charge to you.

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nicky crane | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 12 2010 9:46 AM

I study the Bible because it's the main way God speaks to me, sometimes through immersing myself in a story, sometimes through learning the text by heart (less now I've turned to storying), sometimes just a word or a phrase is God's word for me at that time.  Recently in a psalm I read:  God, you are my joy, I search for you early in the morning, and that stuck with me.  I don't always do it, but I am aware that's what God's calling me to and  offering me, and that I gain more from the study of his word if it's my very first priority, first thing in the morning.  As well as reading the Bible for myself, I also read it for others, for the women and children I  try to help study God's word, and for my neighbours who won't read it for themselves but sometimes listen to it as a  story.  

I've always had problems with the KJV, bad associations with school, where I was desperately unhappy and church and evening prayers were an unwelcome obligation, and it was all so far removed from life.  So I started reading at least parts of the NT in Greek, as I took more in that way.  And later Hebrew.  Logos is a great help here.  

A few years back I discovered Bible storying, and use that in my personal Bible study.  And discover I neither know nor understand the most elementary stories I thought I knew nearly by heart!  UBS translators handbook is my mainstay here.  I need not only to be able to tell the story for myself, but also to be able to tell it in simple Albanian for uneducated women and children to understand and learn for themselves.  To do that I need to understand the story much better than I did!  Here Logos helps.  I always start with paper Bible, sort of sacramental to me, unless I'm travelling, in which case I tend to leave my big Hebrew-Engllish parallel text Bible at home and rely on Logos.  Having read the story in the original, I try to read it again, translating it into Albanian as I go.  When I can't, the problem is usually inadequate understanding of the story, which is where I need to turn to Logos.  

And I must finish this post and get back (at 6.40 PM!) to my interrupted morning Bible study!  I got up early this morning to clear space for the carpenters who came to fill a whole wall with bookshelves - what a joy to have them!  And what is the passage I am studying today?  Martha and Mary!!!  I thought I knew it by heart, and I nearly did, yet I found so much I still don't understand, and need to pick the brains of the dictionaries and the commentaries.  Although the main point of that story for me today is that Mary dropped everything to sit at the feet of Jesus, while Martha was running round like a headless chicken and getting ratty with Mary and Jesus and probably everyone else who made the mistake of coming too close - and all these complications came out of a desire to serve Jesus, that somehow got hijacked somewhere along the way.  I find myself in the Bible, as do those I help to study it for themselves!

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 13 2010 6:34 AM

I too study the Bible in order to know God better, to learn his thoughts and desires, to hear his voice speaking through these ancient texts to my situation.  I believe through the study of the scripture I can become a better person - better husband, father, grandfather, friend, and pastor.

I also study the Bible in order to be able to teach my congregation God's truth.  I study to prepare Bible studies and sermons.

Logos helps me by providing me a world of great Biblical scholarship at the click of a button.  It especially helps me with the wonderful language tools.  It saves me hours of time in looking up things in lexicons, etc.   That time can be spent listening to God and meditating upon His truth rather than pulling books off shelves and turning pages.  It is an invaluable tool for me.

"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley

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Otis Gouty | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 13 2010 9:06 PM

For me, I find the words of The Expositer's Commentary on Psalm ! to be very meaningful with respect to Biblicl study. Just one sentence sets the tone.

Psalm 1 holds forth the blessedness of godliness, encouraging the godly to pursue the way of God over against the way of the world. The psalm encourages wisdom as the way of life by emphasizing the blessedness of the righteous, the adversity of the wicked, and the contrastive ways between the righteous and the wicked.

If you have The EBC, I encourage you to check it out.

In His Love

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