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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2013 6:22 PM

New Interpreter's Bible (12 vols.)

New Interpreter's Bible (12 Vols.) - Pre-Publication Examples… Is a place I have been attempting to promote the resource. It is one of the most popular resources that is glaring absent from Logos. I see people inquiring about it but unless we get this under contract, Accordance or Olivetree may get it first (I know technically it's under contract at Accordance). I use both of these but having it integrated into Logos would be handy. If it makes it to one of the these others I worry it will never make it to Logos. I might be ok with this but I know many others want this in their Logos Library.

"The New Interpreter’s Bible presents leading biblical scholarship through an in-depth commentary on the complete Bible, including the Apocrypha. The contributors are leading biblical scholars who bring a wealth of fresh perspectives to biblical interpretation. The contributors are also theologically diverse, reflecting a wide range of denominational backgrounds: Roman Catholic, mainline Protestant, Jewish, and evangelical. The NIB offers the complete text of two leading biblical translations (the NIV and the NRSV), detailed commentary on coherent manageable portions of text, maps, and excursuses. The Reflections sections are a crucial component of the NIB that provide thoughtful, and thought-provoking, insights on the contemporary application of the biblical text for preaching, teaching, and daily living." (from the publisher) Here is a few more reviews http://library.villanova.edu/Find/Record/459798/Reviews

http://www.amazon.com/New-Interpreters-Bible-Volume-Index/dp/0687002311

http://www.circuitrider.com/review.asp?review_id=32

(CBD) The New Interpreter's Bible: A Commentary in Twelve Volumes 

http://www.denverseminary.edu/article/the-new-interpreters-bible-volume-iv/

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Sogol | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 30 2013 6:36 PM

Yes

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mike | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 30 2013 8:31 PM

compared with the technicality & advancement of WBC.. which is better Dan?

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Steve Farson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 30 2013 9:10 PM

Yes

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 30 2013 10:38 PM

mike:

compared with the technicality & advancement of WBC.. which is better Dan?

That is a question one can ask and is very personal. NIB is more accessible, and technical studies are more in-depth in WBC, I find NIB more applicable not that many authors in WBC haven't done great things in the explanations section. I have said it before and will not hesitate to say it now if I should have but one commentary, I would't think twice for it to be NIB.  If I could only have 3 WBC, NIB, and either DSB or perhaps the Westminster Bible Companion Series would be the 3 for me. But the only one I own physically now is the NIB and the gospels in New Daily Study Bible. I value Interpretation series as well but for me NIB is the hands down winner between Interpretation/NIB, so it sort of baffles me how Interpretation got made and NIB is sitting out in the cold. 

-Dan

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Kelvin Niblett | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 30 2013 10:54 PM

I'm in now for you Dan

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 31 2013 3:38 AM

YesYes

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Adam Rao | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 31 2013 6:14 AM

Dan Francis:

I have said it before and will not hesitate to say it now if I should have but one commentary, I would't think twice for it to be NIB.

I value Interpretation series as well but for me NIB is the hands down winner between Interpretation/NIB, so it sort of baffles me how Interpretation got made and NIB is sitting out in the cold. 

-Dan

Ditto. This is spot-on.

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 31 2013 2:50 PM

Thanks… one by one we will get this made God willing.

-dan

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Travis Walter | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 31 2013 3:09 PM

Needs to be on CP! :).. I'm sure if it was on CP for $150, we could get thru. Right now, more than likely will pass. :(

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 31 2013 3:18 PM

Travis Walter:
Needs to be on CP! :).. I'm sure if it was on CP for $150, we could get thru.

I too wish this was on CP.

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 31 2013 3:32 PM

Bruce Dunning:

Travis Walter:
Needs to be on CP! :).. I'm sure if it was on CP for $150, we could get thru.

I too wish this was on CP.

Unfortunately Logos only offers public domain works in CP.

-Dan

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Travis Walter | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 31 2013 3:46 PM

Dan Francis:

Bruce Dunning:

Travis Walter:
Needs to be on CP! :).. I'm sure if it was on CP for $150, we could get thru.

I too wish this was on CP.

Unfortunately Logos only offers public domain works in CP.

-Dan

Sounds like time for a policy change???  Stick out tongue

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 31 2013 4:51 PM

Travis Walter:
Sounds like time for a policy change???  Stick out tongue

Both are intended to do the same thing, make sure there is enough demand to cover production costs. CP are so much cheaper because no one controls them, you will notice that after a CP volume is published Logos tends to charge a much higher price after they are published. Publishers would never let Logos offer a MSRP $800 item sell for $150. Pre-pub is to assure the production costs will be covered by initial sales, now I still scratch my head when i think about Logos talking about it cost (over $8 a page). To process it, but if that's what it will costs them nothing much we can do about it.

-dan 

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 31 2013 5:11 PM

While search for the cost per page to process it I came across this… and while I am not going to turn this into another list of samples, I thought, I would share this once again.

Here are my 12 Gems from the 12 Volumes of the New Interpreter's Bible. I realize one person's gems may well be another persons, stones to be scattered but I hope you enjoy. These come mostly from the reflections sections. http://www.logos.com/product/8803/new-interpreters-bible 

-Dan

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In Leviticus, the people of God are called to be holy, not because holiness is an arbitrary religion game that God wants played, but because God is holy. Because God is holy, God’s people are to be holy by being like God in the world. We can, therefore, do away with all the cartoon pictures of the sanctimonious holy person wearing a halo and a prudish glare. To be holy is not to be narrow-minded and primly pious; it is, rather, to imitate God. To be holy is to roll up one’s sleeves and to join in with whatever God is doing in the world. --Leviticus: Walter C. Kaiser Jr. Volume 1

The songs of mothers remind us that our story as the church is a part of what God has been doing since creation itself (1 Sam 2:8b), since the first giving of God’s promise to raise up a people (Luke 1:55). The history of God’s salvation does not originate with Jesus or with the church. The church is a part of the larger activity of God from creation onward. To be the community of Jesus as the Messiah is to be related to a God whose story is always larger than the church’s story. It is to be related to a God whose transforming power on behalf of the powerless does not originate in Jesus Christ but was already known to Hannah and simply finds new expression in the song Mary sings for the church. --The First and Second Books of Samuel: Bruce C. Birch, Volume 2

Along with other stories pertaining to Elijah, the miracles in this chapter have been commemorated in music and in art. In these re-creations of the story, attention is invariably drawn to the supramundane origin of Elijah's experiences. That is, indeed, the main point of the passage: It is the Lord, the God of Israel, who brings about these wonders. So, too, we dare to believe that things that seem impossible to human beings can be brought about by the Lord: Birds of prey may provide nourishment; the poor may have their victuals wondrously replenished; and even the dead may be resurrected. It is the Lord and no other god who performs such miracles. So we are called to believe as well. --The First and Second Books of Kings: Choon-Leong Seow, Volume 3

The Misfit represents what Psalm 1 and the rest of the psalter call wickedness—the conviction that we are doing all right by ourselves, that we need no help. It is not surprising that the Misfit’s words conclude the story: “ ‘It’s no real pleasure in life.’ ” He is telling the truth. Failing to trust God and to make connection with God as the source of life, persons cannot be “happy.” It is not surprising that contemporary societies of isolated selves consistently fail to produce people who are “happy,” even though these societies are among the wealthiest, healthiest, and most educated in human history. In biblical terms, to be autonomous, to be alienated from God and other people, is to “perish.” --Psalms: J. Clinton McAnn Jr., Volume 4

The appearance of wisdom and achievement of the aged is not to be confused with virtue. As with the earlier cases of the tragic death of a virtuous person and the apparent fruitlessness of a barren person, the author calls for an examination of the true nature of human strength and wisdom. What appears to be a tragic loss of life in the case of the wise youth indeed is not. Presumably the author could have chosen other figures to signify human strength, such as people of wealth or those with educational and political might. Instead he uses three extreme examples of human misfortune to highlight with clarity the significant values of virtue and justice for determining the dignity of human beings. The true failures, tragedies, and disasters in life are not what the wicked think they are. Moral vacuity expressed through a life of evasive pleasure, exploiting the weak, and perpetrating violence brings on a death and destruction that is far more devastating than the experience of mortality, which all human beings encounter. --Book of Wisdom: Michael Kolarcik, Volume 5

Pastoring is not, however, the sole responsibility of ordained ministers. To the contrary, authentic leadership requires “pastoral” care. Everyone who, in one way or another, in one arena or another, exercises authority and influence would do well to consider how the shepherd metaphor might impact his or her mindset and actions. Pastoring begins with the psalmist’s full awareness that “the earth is the Lord’s and all that is in it,/ the world, and those who live in it” (Ps 24:1). As leaders and caretakers, we are not to use persons, things, and situations to personal advantage. Neither exploitation nor neglect is acceptable. Rather, we are to act as God’s stewards, protecting and providing for those who are entrusted to our care, but belong to God. Ezekiel 34 has much to say to leaders of every ilk, be they politicians, health care providers, supervisors, teachers, pastors, or parents.--Book of Ezekiel: Katheryn Pfisterer Darr, Volume 6

Amos was inspired to recognize that the daily life of Israel had completely given up the ethical standards of the Yahwistic religion. Whether he thought in terms of “covenant theology” or not, he clearly saw the treatment of the poor in Israel as a fundamental rejection of the relationship that Yahweh had established with Israel, which required obedience not only in worship but also in the maintenance of a just society. We might describe his evaluation in this way: It was an unhealthy society, so sick it could not survive much longer. But Amos spoke in terms of God’s activity in history. The death of Israel would not be from “natural causes”; it would be God’s work. We must not then conclude that God prefers to work via killing and burning.52 God allows human beings to chart their own courses, then finds ways to work through, or in spite of, what they do. --Amos: Donald E. Gowan, Volume 7

The move to the future tense indicates that the life of the kingdom must wait for ultimate validation until God finishes the new creation. The future tense of the beatitudes resists all notions that Christianity is a “philosophy of life” designed to make people successful and calm today, in the present moment. Christianity is not a scheme to reduce stress, lose weight, advance in one’s career, or preserve one from illness. Christian faith, instead, is a way of living based on the firm and sure hope that meekness is the way of God, that righteousness and peace will finally prevail, and that God’s future will be a time of mercy and not cruelty. So, blessed are those who live this life now, even when such a life seems foolish, for they will, in the end, be vindicated by God. --Matthew: Eugene Boring, Volume 8

The Word becoming flesh is the decisive event in human history—indeed, in the history of creation—because the incarnation changes God’s relationship to humanity and humanity’s relationship to God. The incarnation means that human beings can see, hear, and know God in ways never before possible. The Father-Son relationship of God and Jesus is the key to this changed relationship. God’s Son, because he is the incarnate Word, derives his identity from God (1:1, 18). The relationship between divine and human is transformed, because in the incarnation human beings are given intimate, palpable, corporeal access to the cosmic reality of God. --John: Gail R. O’Day, Volume 9

Shared worship, indeed, is central to Paul’s vision. He does not say that one should wait to share in worship until all aspects of belief and practice have been hammered out. On the contrary. He sees the mutual welcome, allowing people from very different backgrounds literally to worship together with one voice, as of the essence of the quest for a deeper unity. When we read this alongside Gal 2:11-21, we discover that this is not just a bit of good advice; it grows directly from the doctrine of justification by faith itself. The point of that doctrine is that all who confess Jesus as Lord and believe that God raised him from the dead belong in the same worshiping family, and at the same table. Shared eucharistic fellowship should not be the reward awaiting us at the end of ecumenical negotiations and agreements. It should be a central means by which we travel together along that road. --The Letter to the Romans: N. T. Wright, Volume 10

Whatever the reason for the special reference to those who held office in the Philippian church, the letter is addressed to the whole community. All are “in Christ Jesus” and so belong to the fellowship of God's people. Once again, the terms have become so familiar that we no longer appreciate their real significance. We think of “saints” as very special people and forget that we are all called to be saints—to be members of God's people and, therefore holy, like God. This new status belongs to those who are “in Christ,” who claim their new relationship with God because of their relationship with Christ. It is because Christ is God's holy one that those who belong to him are “saints” (the Greek word a{gioi [hagioi] means “holy ones”). Our proper emphasis on individual responsibility has tended to make us think of sanctity as something personal and private, but Christianity is primarily a calling to belong to a community. The church is not simply a group of individuals who happen to have responded to the gospel; it is the community of God's people, whose corporate life is an essential expression of their divine calling. Paul would certainly have endorsed John Wesley's maxim that “Christianity is essentially a social religion; and that to turn it into a solitary religion, is indeed to destroy it.” Paul's emphatic “all” (1:4, 7-8) will remind us how important this idea is. --The Letter to the Philippians: Morna D. Hooker, Volume 11

In contemporary America, the “appearances” of race and gender are instantly recognizable, for they have, through titanic struggles, finally been brought to general consciousness. On these fronts, the church's record has been mixed; despite some strong efforts toward genuine inclusiveness, racial and gender discrimination is still a reality within most denominations. The sort of discrimination of the poor person that James describes is less easy to see, partially because denominations tend to sort themselves out along socioeconomic lines. But to imagine a dirty and bewildered street person wandering into a Sunday morning fellowship seeking warmth and coffee is in most cases also to imagine a deeply uncomfortable fellowship. Such instances—and it is easy to multiply the ways in which people can, because of appearance, size, gender, sexual orientation, and status, seem to be “poor by the world's standards”—challenge the church's recollection that it is supposed to be a “kingdom” made up of just such inconvenient and unacceptable persons. When the poor cannot find a place in a Christian church, that church no longer has any connection to Jesus. --The Letter of James: Luke Timothy Johnson, Volume 12

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 31 2013 5:51 PM

.... You Go .....

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Patrick S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2013 3:33 AM

Dan Francis:

Thanks… one by one we will get this made God willing.

-dan

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Kelvin Niblett | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2013 6:29 AM

NT Wright even has a contribution makes it an even more must have resource

 

Dan Francis:

--The Letter to the Romans: N. T. Wright, Volume 10

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2013 4:42 PM

Kelvin Niblett:
NT Wright even has a contribution makes it an even more must have resource

There are a lot of top scholars that have contributed to the NIB...

-Dan

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 2 2013 1:05 PM

BUMP….

Just a reminder, Pre-PUB you pay nothing till it ships and you will get an email a couple weeks before it ships to let you know it's about to be released. As always Logos allows you to examine it for 30 days with a money back guarantee. You have nothing to loose and very possibly an invaluable resource to gain (I and many others find it so anyway).

-dan

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