Logos 6.0: What features do you want?

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 21 2013 10:22 AM

Just chatting with Logos a few days back, the workability of 'Basic Search' on George's computer is in Logos7, along with trees and bushes (and XJoshua's metadata).


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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 21 2013 10:32 AM

Denise:

Just chatting with Logos a few days back, the workability of 'Basic Search' on George's computer is in Logos7, along with trees and bushes (and XJoshua's metadata).

Wrong.  It was in Windows 8.1

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 21 2013 10:49 AM

You're kidding!  I saw you bumping your issue multiple times wihout success.  Good to know!  Now for XJoshua.


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Jack Hairston | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 21 2013 1:55 PM

Hi, Lynden:

I have neither time nor energy to use all the features built into Logos5. As a retired software engineer, I can say from experience that new features inevitably make Logos slower. Only Notes and Searches interest me, so my wish list is simple:

Rewrite existing features, cleaning up the code to make everything run faster. I would pay for such an enhancement in a New York minute.

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Luigi Sam | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 25 2013 5:28 AM

 

Jack Hairston:

Hi, Lynden:

I have neither time nor energy to use all the features built into Logos5. As a retired software engineer, I can say from experience that new features inevitably make Logos slower. Only Notes and Searches interest me, so my wish list is simple:

Rewrite existing features, cleaning up the code to make everything run faster. I would pay for such an enhancement in a New York minute.

+1.

@Logos:

I am not putting words into the mouth of others,

afresh I notice that others just want saine functaionality.

I realize that it is all somewhat useful, but please consider the difference between Logos Statistical gathering value of: syncs, updates, and users 5staring thier libraries

to the user: it this provided for users or logos to datamine?  and if they are truely for users: then certainly these things should take a long time, rather than sacrificing day to day saine usage?

respecfully (but written late at night)

L.

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Randy W. Sims | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 11 2014 8:34 PM

Reading a couple of newer threads made me want to come back and update this thread with a few other wishlist items I don't think I'd posted before although some have been mentioned in other threads or user voice by others first. Most of them are based on my desire for a simpler more focused interface on desktop and tablets, and improvements for touch based interfaces.

Transient side/bottom panels that attach to any border, can be assigned a resource or resource type, are normally auto hide, but can also be pinned. Activated by double clicking a word (lexicon/dictionary), having a small tab to grab or mouse-over (highlight palette). De-activated by clicking anywhere else. And/Or scrollable near-full screen tool tip that show entire articles.

Different themes for each resource type. I'd like to hide or minimize attention toward things like reference works or tool windows that I'm not focusing a lot of time on but only referencing for my study. Eg. Main text a high contrast near-white background with dark text while references are a lower contrast dark grey with black text. I realize this allows users to create highlight schemes that conflict with their layout themes, but I think it's worth the pain.

More control of user toolbar buttons. Assignable keyboard shortcuts, user icons, more access to Logos functions (Open Commentary New Tab), Show/Hide toggle buttons (Show/Hide BKC or Show/Hide BDAG). Make syncing tool bar between devices optional; different devices may suggest totally different toolbar organization. Maybe optional second row to toolbar; this seems esp useful on tablets but there may be better alternatives

Have the Next/Prev resource function automatically pre-load the N next/previous resources in background to make it faster and easier to use a single tab for a resource type, switching among parallel resources. Maybe use some type of prioritized circular list structure to organize those parallel resources according to most used as an alternative to using the Prioritized list.

Turn the homepage into a simple RSS feed reader. I love the nice layout, but it is too slow to use or be useful and I hate that all articles link out. I would love access to the logos blogs and other blogs I read through the home page with a simple click to expand the article in place or two pane design. Simple, fast, usable.

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 22 2014 2:41 PM

Download one engine, switch between Verbum and Logos, as well as any other new engines that they come out with.

Presently to install verbum, you have to download or copy all of your resources and then index.

Put all of the branded engines (Verbum, Noet, Logos 5 etc..) under one download, and use a switch to change among them.

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 22 2014 3:01 PM

Lynden Williams:

Download one engine, switch between Verbum and Logos, as well as any other new engines that they come out with.

Presently to install verbum, you have to download or copy all of your resources and then index.

Put all of the branded engines (Verbum, Noet, Logos 5 etc..) under one download, and use a switch to change among them.

OR have all libraries in one place.  One index. Maybe all resources will not work with all engines but each engine would recognize its resources. Common resources all together. Currently we can not use the Logos 5 engine, that becomes Verbum with switches, resources with the Verbum engine as we can not point Verbum at the Logos 5 resources and need to have duplicate libraries [mine is/are 17 Gig and growing] 

One engine with switches or One library.  [or both]

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Milkman | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 22 2014 8:07 PM

The ability to search your drop-down history menu.

mm.

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Genghis | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 25 2014 10:12 PM

Here's my 2c worth:  I'd like to:

  1. Second the request for a full featured touch friendly version.  I'd like to be able to use the fully functional version of Logos on any device within the Windows universe.  To be sure, I might only download a subset of my library onto a Windows Phone device, I would nonetheless like to be able do everything with that subset that I can do on a desktop.
  2. Have a way to remove multiple resources quickly that aren't likely to be used.  For example, the Perseus collection is good but if I'm likely to only ever read the English translations, I'd like to be able to remove the Greek texts in one go.  That should reduce search times.

HTH

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 25 2014 10:25 PM

Genghis:
Have a way to remove multiple resources quickly that aren't likely to be used.  For example, the Perseus collection is good but if I'm likely to only ever read the English translations, I'd like to be able to remove the Greek texts in one go.  That should reduce search times.

Good news: You already can do this!

1. Open your Library

2. Select all the resources you want to hide (easiest to filter first so the only ones showing are the ones you want to select/hide; e.g., to filter for all the Greek Perseus texts, enter persesus lang:greek into the Library find box, then select them all click on one and then Ctrl+A to select all of them)

3. Ctrl+right-click anywhere on the selected group of resources (except a cover thumbnail or title, which would open that resource)

4. Select "Hide these resources"

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Philip Larson | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 26 2014 12:46 PM

I second the touch-friendly version. I just got a laptop-tablet convertible, and I'm still trying to get comfortable with the Metro side. So part of the problem is me. I'm hoping to be able to use Logos 5 on the tablet side.

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 26 2014 1:34 PM

For Logos to automatically back up the index, with a simple option to restore the last good index after being prompted by the software.

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 26 2014 1:51 PM

I want L6 to be L3...with updates.

Angel

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Eric Woernle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 27 2014 6:50 PM

Lynden, can there be a pre-categorization of volumes in the menu i.e. history, theology? I am not the best Logos user but I do love it and have had Logos since 2.0. Back in 2.0 it did this for us and I found it useful for me. Thanks again.

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 3 2014 7:42 AM

Philip Larson:

I second the touch-friendly version. I just got a laptop-tablet convertible, and I'm still trying to get comfortable with the Metro side. So part of the problem is me. I'm hoping to be able to use Logos 5 on the tablet side.

Yes, I also second the need to have touch-friendly character of the next Logos.  Yes

Bohuslav

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 4 2014 8:49 PM

David Paul:

I want L6 to be L3...with updates.

Angel

L3 was my least favorite version.

Did not like.

I /hope/ they continue down the path they are on now. Things are better than 4, and unquantifiable infinite orders of magnitude better than 3. I think I've mentioned before that I owned some of the journals in L3 .... i didn't use them until I bought into L4.

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 4 2014 10:27 PM

Eric Woernle:

Lynden, can there be a pre-categorization of volumes in the menu i.e. history, theology? I am not the best Logos user but I do love it and have had Logos since 2.0. Back in 2.0 it did this for us and I found it useful for me. Thanks again.

Exactly what do you have in mind? Some users have created collections. To obtain the collection that you want:

  • place your mouse over the title of the collection
  • Choose copy from the blue button to the left.
  • Logos will copy that collection to your library.
  • Here are steps to create your own collections. https://www.logos.com/training/logos5/collections
  • Finally, use the parallel resource button to see all your resources that pertain to the book that you are using.

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Unix | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 4:29 AM

Several of my wishes have come true both regarding the software, and the kind of offers Logos markets, for example I wished for better daily twitter deals, and we got them.

What I wish for now, is a version 5.4 and I'm ready to be surprised what it may entail and will be pleased. I haven't tested the 5.3 beta (3 when it comes out) yet, but if they haven't improved the prioritization speed I think they should work on that now, regardless if many are using that functionality now - because if it speeds up on modern low- or mid-end CPU:s by 5.4 I will talk more to people about Logos/Verbum. Currently I've been using Accordance more (on Windows 7). I use Logos mostly on Windows 8.1, usually on the stable version.

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 5 2014 6:18 AM

Better  linking/following. It's terribly annoying to move my Bible a verse or two (say Leviticus 15:23), and have my commentary jump back to the initial section because it's labeled Leviticus 15.)

One-way following maybe?

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