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Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2013 7:15 AM

Hey guys... which paper study bible would you recommend? (yes I'm a Logos user, but I still want to know). The one caveat is no "Message" or paraphrase-type Bibles... I'm really picky about that, being an NASB user to begin with.

I'm certainly willing to look at other translations though... in fact that might be a good idea just to see different scholarly inputs... (by which I don't mean the New World Translation or anything!) Big Smile

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Daniel Yoder | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 8 2013 7:24 AM

The ESV Study Bible is quite studly, and the NIV Study Bible is also worth a look. 

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Roger G Black | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 8 2013 7:43 AM

While having digital is a very nice thing, I too, like to have paper to back it up.  I recently purchased 2 New Inductive Study Bibles for the household, 1 ESV and 1 NASB.  Inductive Study Bibles are a format that can have the user digging into the Word, if they choose to put this style into action and into heart.  Just a few ideas to look into.

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Geo Philips | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 8 2013 7:46 AM

Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell:

Hey guys... which paper study bible would you recommend? (yes I'm a Logos user, but I still want to know). The one caveat is no "Message" or paraphrase-type Bibles... I'm really picky about that, being an NASB user to begin with.

I'm certainly willing to look at other translations though... in fact that might be a good idea just to see different scholarly inputs... (by which I don't mean the New World Translation or anything!) Big Smile

ESV has a whole bunch of study bibles (I have heard the Global Study Bible is quite good) but I recommend the standard ESV Study Bible, which has excellent articles and graphics to go along with solid mini-commentary (standard caveats about theological leanings which might be different to yours.)

I would not get the current NIV Study Bible. However, it is being updated by Doug Moo and DA Carson, so that might be a good one to get later.

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 8 2013 8:32 AM

Several I like are:

The Open Bible NASB

The Geneva Study Bible

The KJV Study Bible (formerly known as the Liberty Annotated Study Bible)

The Strand Study Bible (this one is new to me but so far I like it)

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Unix | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 8 2013 8:47 AM

I think the 1995 NASU that You are already using, is superior to the Evangelical Standard Version. I haven't used a Study Bible, but agree that ESV has bias in the Study Bible notes. Plus the ESV has bias in the translation.

I use other Bibles myself, I don't feel like discussing them right now, I'm focusing on writing other posts ...

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 8 2013 8:49 AM

Paper Study Bibles?

I did not know they still made them out of paper. Why? SurpriseWink

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Everett Headley | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 8 2013 8:54 AM

For me it is hands down the ESV Study Bible.  It's a brick, but an incredible work, as far as study Bibles go.  I tend to collect study Bibles, however, and really like the Believer's Study Bible, which I'm not sure is in print/or it was renamed, I can't remember.   

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 8 2013 9:03 AM

Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell:

Hey guys... which paper study bible would you recommend?

this depends on your planned usage intentions and whether you'd rather be confirmed in - or challenged by - a certain theological viewpoint. E.g. the ESB SB is rather reformed-leaning (there are of course more outspoken Reformed SBs) and complementarist, the CSSB is Lutheran (again, there's a more Lutheran SB), the current NIV SB is probably the global bestseller of SBs and "broadly evangelical" (wonder if the upcoming new NIV SB will be more reformed leaning, given the editors) - and that's only the non-pentecostal, conservative protestant flaviour ...

I personally like NIV SB in paper, but find I look less and less into it, given that I have FSB, ESV SB and CSSB in Logos (and CSSB is a "lutheranized" NIV SB). For bible study in German language I rather carry a Thomson Chain Reference bible around. 

 

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 8 2013 9:04 AM

Everett Headley:
I tend to collect study Bibles

Everett, since you are a collector, may I suggest the Andrews Study Bible . Different perspective on some areas of belief. Tell me what you think. Logos also has it. 

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HJ. van der Wal | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 8 2013 10:36 AM

I would use the paperback edition of the ESV Study Bible.

NB.Mick:

For bible study in German language I rather carry a Thomson Chain Reference bible around. 

My favorite paper study Bible is the Stuttgarter Studienbibel. I still use my old German paperback edition and the Hungarian hardback edition regularly.

For Bible study in Dutch I use the classic Kanttekeningen (English translation available here as Logos pb).

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 8 2013 11:12 AM

Jewish Study Bible, which obviously doesn't include the NT. (Edit to add: There's the Jewish Annotated New Testament, a NRSV NT with Jewish study notes from the same people who did the JSB.)

I found the ESV Study Bible to be *extremely* narrow. I prefer the NIV Study Bible to the ESV, even aware of its problems.

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Kent | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 8 2013 4:27 PM

ESV definitely ESV

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 8 2013 5:09 PM

I use two study bibles regularly:

Catholic Study Bible, Second Edition (NABRE) -> Coming to Logos, HERE.

Ignatius Catholic Study Bible (RSV2CE) - Available in Logos, HERE.

The Ignatius Study Bible is currently available for the New Testament.  The publisher is currently working on the Old Testament.

 

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PL | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 8 2013 6:01 PM

I would advise against:

- NIV Study Bible - the notes are good and helpful, but they very frequently refer to notes elsewhere, so unless you like turning pages a lot, this is one that much more useable in electronic format, IMHO 

- NLT Study Bible - the notes do not have depth

Esv Study Bible has good notes and charts and graphics... The maps are lightly colored and kind of hard to read.

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Josh | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 8 2013 6:45 PM

The first study Bible that I ever bought for myself was a NASB Ryrie Study Bible. I loved it.

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John | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 8 2013 6:53 PM

Daniel Yoder:

The ESV Study Bible is quite studly, and the NIV Study Bible is also worth a look. 

The ESV Study Bible is definitely among the best.

The main problem with the (2011) NIV is with the translation being made gender-neutral. Almost guarantees its eventual decline.

There is also the Reformation study Bible (revision of the Geneva SB, edited by R.C. Sproul), available in ESV or NKJV.

If you like John Macarthur, his study Bible is very good and available in several translations.

If you are from a dispensationalist (I hope not Cool) background, the Ryrie study Bible is very good.

And last but not least, the HCSB translation and study Bible are both very good. Especially the translation which IMO is better than the ESV.

 

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John | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 8 2013 6:58 PM

Unix:

... ESV has bias in the Study Bible notes.

All study Bibles have bias. The ESV is actually well regarded for being more objective than most, it shows several different views in difficult passages.

Unix:

Plus the ESV has bias in the translation.

All translations have bias. Only way to escape that fact is to learn original languages (using lexicons and study tools which have bias of course) Big Smile

 

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Michael | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 8 2013 6:59 PM

The Life Application study bible is very good and I think it comes in the NIV, NASB and one other translation.  The Quest Study bible is also very good.  I know it comes in NIV, but not sure what other versions it may be in.  Both deal with every day issues that we face as Christians.

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 8 2013 7:09 PM

 "The ESV is actually well regarded for being more objective than most, it shows several different views in difficult passages."

Oh really?

My comments from elsewhere, 2009.

>I know lots of people like it, but I was singularly *unimpressed* with its notes when I looked through it at SBL last year. 

The note on Genesis 1:1, for example, does not even mention the alternate translation of the verse, one many scholars take to be correct (i.e. NRSV and JPS/TNK.) Not even a mention, and it claims to be a Study Bible! Moreover, it assumes that Gen 1:1 (without mentioning the alternative) teaches creation exnihilo [again, something most scholars now reject], and then states that this is"confirmed by the NT writers' affirmation that creation was from nothing" though their citied passages affirm no such thing. They also leave out 2Peter 3:5, which has a connection to Genesis and creation from the pre-existing chaotic water/deep/tehom. 

For a *Study* Bible, I find the notes vastly incomplete and hopelessly dogmatic, with no mention of alternatives. Whether the scholars are right or not is immaterial to this discussion. I expect a *Study* Bible to present the options, not dogmatically choose and arbitrate between them for the reader, without letting the reader know there is even a question.  There *is* a debate, and the ESV Study Bible presents the topic as if there were absolute certainty. That is what I take issue with.

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