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Gunnar Hanson | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Aug 10 2013 9:27 AM

I've been using Logos for a long time now.  Every week as I prepare for a sermon this is the order I follow:

1. I enter the passage I am preaching on.

2. I then go to the Bible window and add all of the translations I use week to week.

3.  I then click on all the commentaries I prefer to use week to week..

4.  I then close a window on the far bottom right. 

5. I then resize window to my preferred sizes.

6.  I then save the previously saved layout to the current snapshot and then rename it.

My question is this.  Is there any way to see Logos to automatically open my preferred Bibles and commentaries in my preferred layout, or am I forced to spend the 5 minutes each week getting my study ready and in my preferred layout for the week?  It seems like I should be able to punch in the passage guide and Logos should open in the way that I want it to open with resources I want to see...

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 10 2013 9:34 AM

Hi Gunnar - and welcome to the forums

If instead of using the box on the home page to enter your passage - which I think is what you are describing - you could just open the layout you have previously saved.

If the Passage Guide, Bibles and Commentaries are linked then entering a new passage in the PG will update all the others as well.

This should provide what you are asking for but could have an impact on performance.

Hope this helps - if it doesn't make sense please post back

Graham

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Doc B | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 10 2013 9:37 AM

Gunnar Hanson:
Is there any way to see Logos to automatically open my preferred Bibles and commentaries in my preferred layout,

Yes (if I understand what you are asking), there is.

When you get ready for the new study, go to the Layouts menu and pick the last study you did.  Once it is loaded, click on the Home button so the home screen drops down.  Type the passage into the Go box and hit 'go'.  The home screen will go away, and the new passage will load in your last layout.

I don't remember if you have to have all the panels in the layout linked or not, but when I try this with mine, it works.

HTH.  (And I hope I am answering your question.)

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Patrick S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 11 2013 6:22 AM

This is how I have my Logos screen organised (click on picture to see full size). In the picture I have put comments on how I get all this. Basically once you have a saved layout (this one took me some time to get just the way I want) you can click a button on the toolbar to bring it up.

Nice thing is as well that new resources and tools load in the correct panels - new bibles in middle, commentaries and other resources on right and searches on left.

By not linking the guides to the link set for other resources it keeps performance OK. Also by default I don't load the information panel.

Hope this helps and is on track to what you are wanting to do.

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sal | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 14 2013 9:30 AM

Yes you can. You can also assign your created layout to a shortcut button so you only have to click one button to open the layout.

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 14 2013 11:13 AM

Gunnar, I have layouts saved similar to Patrick S. (with a couple modifications to suit my style).

1. I have 5 basic saved layouts. This allows me to quickly get into the resources I want for the task at hand. By linking the panes and saving the layouts I can simple enter a text and get to work.

  1. My "Devotional" is a saved layout with 3 panes. a) the highlighting tool, b) the daily devotional I am currently reading, c) 3 favorite English Bibles. The Bibles are in the same link set as the devotional so that the text follows the plan. This is the default "open to" layout when I start Logos
  2. My "Learning Communities" is a layout I open when I am listening to a sermon or participating in a small group. It is basically an electronic version of a parallel Study Bible. a) first pane is favorite English Bibles (default to what my Pastor prefers) linked to b) favorite study bible notes. Note: I have the Table of Contents panel open in English Bibles to more quickly navigate with a stylus on my Win 8 tablet.
  3. My "NT Sermons" is my starting point when beginning to exegete a NT passage. 6 panes (starting upper and moving clockwise) a) Guides, b) Preferred English Bibles c) Information Pane (set on "click" instead of "hover" to increase performance) d) look-up Bible (so I can look up a reference without my main panes moving) note: this pane is not linked to the main group e) Greek resources and f) Basic commentaries that I want to refer to for any NT passage. - Note a,b,e, & f are all linked so if I enter a passage in a guide then all these panes follow.
  4. My "OT Sermons" is just like NT Sermons except I have different Hebrew Resources and Basic commentaries.
  5. My "Book & Bible" layout includes a) Highlighting with the palette open to where I want Highlights saved for that particular resource. b)a tab for the monograph I am reading and a tab for clippings where I want to save clipping for that monograph - makes it SUPER easy to right click and save things I consider important. c) Favorite English Bibles so I can check any references cited in the monograph.

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Mary-Ellen | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 16 2013 8:20 AM

David, I am intrigued by your layouts.  I see quite a few features that I would like to learn more about and perhaps use myself.  I want to try to figure each one out for myself first, hoping it will "stick" better that way.  But if you don't mind, I would like to ask you questions once I come to the end of my own devices.

My first questions have to do with highlighting.  It looks like you create new palettes for certain resources?  And maybe for other purposes?  From what I have found so far, I understand that when you use a palette, all the highlighting is stored as notes in a palette note file.  So with a resource-specific palette, you can turn your highlighting on and off on a resource-specific basis, and also search your highlights by searching in the palette note file.  Are there other benefits to having resource-specific palettes?

Also, I notice in your Devotional layout that your underlining highlights have a little "highlight marker" icon after the highlighting.  And in one place, that little icon appears without any associated underlining.  This is so cute!  How did you do this?  Is this possibly the Note Indicator?  Or an image added to a highlighting style?  Or . . . ?  I'm actually hoping it's a Note Indicator.  I'd love to be able to put the Note Indicator for highlighted selections after the highlighting, rather than before it.  My notes are usually responses to the text, and somehow I think it would "feel better" if the pop-up on hovering showed up at the end of the text.

Thanks for sharing!

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Gunnar Hanson | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 16 2013 9:08 AM

Patrick,

Thank you. This answers my question, I think.  Now, your picture is of a Mac layout.  The first thing I noticed is that I don't have those "tabs" to the immediate right of the search box.  Did you have to put them there?  I'm all up to date on my Logos 5...

Gunnar

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 16 2013 9:19 AM

Hi Gunnar

Gunnar Hanson:
The first thing I noticed is that I don't have those "tabs" to the immediate right of the search box.  Did you have to put them there?

In Patrick's screenshot he has a red arrow pointing to those "tabs" explaining how he got them there.

These are "shortcuts" on the "shortcut bar" - for more details please see http://wiki.logos.com/Shortcuts_bar

Graham

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 16 2013 9:30 AM

David, I am intrigued by your layouts.  I see quite a few features that I would like to learn more about and perhaps use myself. 

My first questions have to do with highlighting...   Are there other benefits to having resource-specific palettes?

Also, I notice in your Devotional layout that your underlining highlights have a little "highlight marker" icon after the highlighting. 

Glad my examples are providing some insight as to how you can customize to your purposes!

I am currently in my FIRST experiment with duplicating a highlighting palette. This is because I am doing an independent study with a professor and will share my highlights with the professor as an accountability that I have read the text. By creating a separate palette for the resources, I THINK I will be able to share the file from my Notes Folder in the Documents part of the Interface

The "highlight marker" icon indicates a "popular highlight". Logos gathers information from User files and finds parts of resources that are often highlighted by multiple users. By turning on the "popular highlights" in the Visual marker icon (the 3 overlapping circles) you can toggle on or off what other users find significant. This is totally independent of my personal highlighting which is why some of my highlights are followed by that indicator and others are not.

 

I do know that custom highlighting styles can be created that have icons in them, but I have not experimented with this feature - (Check out "creating custom palettes" here http://wiki.logos.com/Highlighting )

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Mary-Ellen | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 16 2013 10:41 AM

Oh, yes, popular highlights!  I had forgotten about that, turned it off because I find it distracting.

Thanks for your illustrated response!  Back to my explorations . . .

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Gunnar Hanson | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 16 2013 4:16 PM

Thank you!  This is awesome.  Man, now I want to know what some other popular shortcuts are!  Is there a top 10 list anywhere out there?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 16 2013 10:37 PM

Gunnar Hanson:
Is there a top 10 list anywhere out there?

http://community.logos.com/forums/t/15977.aspx is an old post but it might have some useful thoughts.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 17 2013 5:30 AM

David Thomas:
I am currently in my FIRST experiment with duplicating a highlighting palette. This is because I am doing an independent study with a professor and will share my highlights with the professor as an accountability that I have read the text. By creating a separate palette for the resources, I THINK I will be able to share the file from my Notes Folder in the Documents part of the Interface

Suggest creating a Faithlife group.  Logos has a web site that allows documents to be shared with Faithlife group(s):

https://documents.logos.com/?offset=0&sortType=Date&sortOrder=Descending&deleted=False

Documents web site also has option to restore deleted documents.

Thankful for sharing of highlighting palettes and visual filters => http://wiki.logos.com/Extended_Tips_for_Highlighting_and_Visual_Filters#Examples_of_visual_filters

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 17 2013 11:25 AM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):

 

Suggest creating a Faithlife group.  Logos has a web site that allows documents to be shared with Faithlife group(s):

https://documents.logos.com/?offset=0&sortType=Date&sortOrder=Descending&deleted=False

Thank you for the hint. I was hoping there was a way to share a note file with one individual rather than create a group of only 2 people. File sharing is definitely a positive move in my opinion for collaborative Bible Study.

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