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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013 3:30 PM

I can't say anything about it, but I'm testing some software that changes the answer to this question.

Stay tuned!

Can you tell I'm excited??

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 15 2013 4:07 PM

You mean something other than the 4 Logos apps that already run on iPad?

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PL | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 15 2013 4:51 PM

And other than the remote desktop solutions where an iPad app takes control of your desktop pc at home?

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Mike Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 16 2013 6:52 PM

I can't wait to hear about this, whatever it is.  Hard to imagine iPad with enough RAM or processor horsepower to run Logos 5, but if we could just read all our L5 resources, including Personal Books, that would be great!

And if Kevin is excited, that excites me.

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 16 2013 8:10 PM

Michael Childs:
And if Kevin is excited, that excites me.

I am more than a little interested too but the devil is in the details as they say….

-dan

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Butters | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 18 2013 6:52 AM

I'm hoping it will allow one to use a dictionary properly on the iPad with a text.  As in how I've suggested here:  

I mostly will be using logos on my iPad. And there are some issues that make reading with a dictionary, say the LSJ (which I currently own and use with the Perseus material), a bit less than ideal.

Here's how it currently works for me on the iPad:

In split screen, when I choose a word in the text on the top panel, I then choose "Look Up" and then "Bible Word Study."

Then, the "Bible Word Study" screen appears in the bottom panel. In there (the bottom panel), I press LSJ. The top panel then changes to the LSJ at the entry I'm looking for.

So, as I understand it currently, the top panel will need to toggle back and forth between my original language text and my LSJ; while the bottom panel will always be the "Bible Word Study."

It would be far preferable that the top panel stays on the original language text, so that I don't lose my place and can continue to read with the definition on display in the bottom panel; and the bottom panel open to the LSJ, wherever I last looked up something.

 

It does makes sense; however, I imagine it would take a bit of work, and Butters doesn't want to get his little hopes up.  

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 18 2013 8:27 AM

My guess would be something like http://desktop.onlive.com/ 

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 18 2013 9:38 AM

I've been using http://www.splashtop.com/home for a short time because of someone else's recommendation here. Works fine, but you need a simple Logos layout to view. All of Logos on your iPad.

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 18 2013 10:34 AM

Both Onlive and Splashtop are forms of remote control software.  Since they're both only displaying a screen that's rendered elsewhere, I wouldn't consider then be "Logos running on iPad", since you'd still have a Windows interface.  I suppose if the interface was updated for a touchscreen, then I would consider it significant.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 18 2013 1:57 PM

Todd Phillips:
I suppose if the interface was updated for a touchscreen, then I would consider it significant.

Logos 5.1 running on Windows 8 is supposed to be OK on a touchscreen.

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 18 2013 2:16 PM

Mark Barnes:

Todd Phillips:
I suppose if the interface was updated for a touchscreen, then I would consider it significant.

Logos 5.1 running on Windows 8 is supposed to be OK on a touchscreen.

I use Logos 5 via LogMeIn remote control software on my iPad from time to time.  It's not difficult with the touch interface, but it could be better.  How is Windows 8 different? 

Anyhow, remote control functionality has been around for years now.  Kevin is just teasing us with this posting.  For all we know, he's accepted a new job as an internet troll.  Big Smile

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 18 2013 3:48 PM

Todd Phillips:
I use Logos 5 via LogMeIn remote control software on my iPad from time to time.  It's not difficult with the touch interface, but it could be better.  How is Windows 8 different? 

I was thinking of the onscreen keyboard which is much better in Windows 8. Of course if you're using LogMeIn, it provides its own keyboard.

Todd Phillips:
Anyhow, remote control functionality has been around for years now.

I was suggesting the possibility that Logos would be providing the remote computer, rather than us using our own remote computers. If so, that would mean (a) they could possibly run custom code that improved performance or the UI (possibly even a custom wrapper?); and (b) it would free up our desktop for other users. On the downside, it would mean we'd always be running over the internet, not a local LAN.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 18 2013 6:45 PM

Todd Phillips:
Since they're both only displaying a screen that's rendered elsewhere, I wouldn't consider then be "Logos running on iPad", since you'd still have a Windows interface.

Definitely the Windows interface, in my case Win7. Obviously you don't even need the iPad app if all you are going to do is use a remote control system. But for now I can at least access functions in Logos 5 that the iPad app doesn't offer if I want to.

Whatever Kevin is excited about he isn't saying. We'll see.

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 19 2013 5:15 PM

Sorry. Details coming. And I'm not selling anything, but best answer yet.

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Butters | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 20 2013 7:47 AM

Kevin A. Purcell:
but best answer yet.

is....?  

was.....?

Which? 

hmmmmmm......

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 27 2013 6:31 PM

For those interested.

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/08/27/parallels-access-for-ipad-review-windows-mac-tools-as-apps-on-ipad/

This is far better than simple remote control software. You have to use it to undertstand how slick it works.

I don't get excited about apps much any more after reviewing hundreds of them over the last few years, but this has me excited and it makes using Logos or other Bible software the way they were originally inteded to be used on a computer so much easier on an iPad. It's the interface I wish Logos et. al. could give us on the iPad.

It's not cheap at $80/year however. I have not connection with the compnay except that they let me try out the pre-release version so I could post a review at launch. I just think you guys will love using it for Logos when those times come and the iPad app isn't quite enough.

I know I'm breaking forum rules by posting this link. But I'm sure Logos shouldn't mind as it means we may be more likely to recommend people buy Logos for the desktop.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 27 2013 7:37 PM

Thanks, Kevin.

I downloaded the app and the Windows desktop application. Right now the Windows version is in beta. I have it free for 90 days to try out. Nice.

It does seem like a very cool app. It handled Logos just fine. I need to configure a more simple layout just for using this way. It won't replace using the mobile app for reading. You don't get the fine resolutions using Parallels that you get in a native iPad app.

Having used Splashtop I'd say this is way easier to use, more responsive, and it enables you to quickly switch between your desktop applications. I was able to use my Logitech iPad keyboard when accessing a Microsoft Word document.

For the times I need or want to use all of Logos away from my computer this would be a nice way to do so. I'm not sure I'd pay $80 a year to be able to do so.

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 28 2013 11:14 AM

Mark Smith:

Having used Splashtop I'd say this is way easier to use, more responsive, and it enables you to quickly switch between your desktop applications. I was able to use my Logitech iPad keyboard when accessing a Microsoft Word document.

For the times I need or want to use all of Logos away from my computer this would be a nice way to do so. I'm not sure I'd pay $80 a year to be able to do so.

I agree. Much better than splash top and my previous favorite before this Logmein. As for the price, I wish it was closer to $50 a year or $5/month. At that price I think it would sell like crazy since people can get in at a low price.

It does handle all my Bible applications inlacing Logos perfectly!

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 28 2013 11:19 AM

Kevin - care to post a screen shot of L5 via your iPad? Smile

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 28 2013 11:23 AM

alabama24:

Kevin - care to post a screen shot of L5 via your iPad? Smile

I will soon. I'm going to write up a whole post on my blog.

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