Herodotus - Persian Wars Loeb vs. Perseus

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Eric Weiss | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Aug 29 2013 6:11 AM

How does the community-pricing Herodotus Persian Wars http://www.logos.com/product/31159/herodotus-the-persian-wars differ from what we already have in the free Perseus English and Greek volumes?

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 29 2013 6:45 AM

Eric, I can't be specific about this but you may find this discussion helpful - http://community.logos.com/forums/p/70545/491278.aspx

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Michael Grigoni | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 29 2013 9:46 AM

Eric Weiss:

How does the community-pricing Herodotus Persian Wars http://www.logos.com/product/31159/herodotus-the-persian-wars differ from what we already have in the free Perseus English and Greek volumes?

One of the major differences is that since we're working from the print edition of this resource, our typesetting will match the print. As you'll notice in the Perseus edition, there are no paragraph breaks in the text (which doesn't make for the best reading experience).

Additionally, the edition on community pricing includes the editors introductions (there are different introductions for each of the four volumes), indexes and maps (there are different maps in each of the four volumes as well), all of which provide helpful contextual information regarding the work of Herodotus.

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Butters | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 29 2013 10:03 AM

Just a quick point that might be of help to peeps reading Herodotus the first time:  reading him (and Thucydides, etc) properly can be difficult without a great deal of ancillary information.  The Loeb editions are great but they are geared towards people who have a pretty good knowledge of geography and classical history, and sometimes obscure references.  

The "Landmark" editions by Robert Strassler (whom I got to know a few years back) are simply stellar and truly worth looking into.  http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_14?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=landmark+herodotus&sprefix=landmark+herod%2Caps%2C585

I don't know if Logos would be interested, but given the visual nature of the "Landmark" editions, and the thoroughness of the annotations, they might be an excellent edition to their Classics offerings.  It's also worth noting that the translations are among the best English translations I've come upon.  

Strassler is a very sophisticated, retired businessman who has been dedicating his retirement years to bringing out Classics texts for the nonspecialist.  I imagine he would be very excited to get these editions into Logos, since he is truly engaged in these projects to get as many people to read the Classics as possible. 

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Butters | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 29 2013 7:21 PM

Incidentally, I see the "landmark" editions as helpful references to read alongside the original language text - which is far preferable.  Not a substitute for the Loebs, but helpful guides, much like commentaries for, say, Homer.  

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 29 2013 7:44 PM

Butters:
The "Landmark" editions by Robert Strassler (whom I got to know a few years back) are simply stellar and truly worth looking into.  http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_14?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=landmark+herodotus&sprefix=landmark+herod%2Caps%2C585

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. It does sound like something Logos should try to acquire the rights to.

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 31 2013 7:46 AM

Yes!                      Indeed!                      *smile*

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Patrick S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 1 2013 6:19 AM

And make that three Yes

The Landmark editions certainly look a cut above the Perseus editions Wink

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Butters | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 1 2013 8:24 AM

I would say the combination of the Loebs and the Landmark editions would be ideal.  A fully tagged OL text + an excellent translation with a plethora of ancillary material that is really helpful to understanding the text.  

Butters Smile

P.S.  The question is, does Butters really know what a "plethora" is?  

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