Still font problems in 4.0a RC1 running XP

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Ebbe Andréasson | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Dec 19 2009 3:48 AM | Locked

When this is an release candidate I again mention there is still graphic mismatch in Logos 4 running XP.

Will this be solved or is XP to old to be interesting when developing Logos 4?

Ebbe

 

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Donovan R. Palmer | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 19 2009 4:14 AM | Locked

Same issue exists here. I would like to upgrade to W7, but don't have the cash right now!

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SteveF | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 19 2009 8:24 AM | Locked

Yes, I would rather be able to use a San-serif font for resources in L4 (like I could in L3)  rather than the default serif, but changing it to anything otherthan the built in default serif then makes my Hebrew tranliterations look like little boxes (in XP).

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 19 2009 9:17 AM | Locked

i am not seeing this problem. Running RC1 on a Vista machine. What fonts do ya'll have set (in Tools->Program Settings for Greek)? [Bible = ESV, passage = Mark 5:32]

 

 

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Donovan R. Palmer | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 19 2009 11:23 AM | Locked

My fonts are still on the defaults set at the time of installation. Looking at them, they look identical to yours except for Default Text Size. Changing this had no effect.

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 19 2009 11:39 AM | Locked

The default font at the top of your image, i am using Times Roman, L4 may be using the regular font for these arrow images. You might try changing that just for a test. Thought that i saw somewhere where they were reverting back to a default font for users who liked the unhinted version. Perhaps if they did this that font is a version which does not have all the unicode characters. Just a thought.

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Donovan R. Palmer | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 19 2009 12:32 PM | Locked

steve clark:
The default font at the top of your image, i am using Times Roman, L4 may be using the regular font for these arrow images. You might try changing that just for a test. Thought that i saw somewhere where they were reverting back to a default font for users who liked the unhinted version. Perhaps if they did this that font is a version which does not have all the unicode characters. Just a thought.

It was a good idea and I tried it... but sadly it didn't work! :(  Thanks for suggesting it though!

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Ebbe Andréasson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 19 2009 2:50 PM | Locked

Donovan R. Palmer:
It was a good idea and I tried it... but sadly it didn't work!

This is a known font-problem since early beta testing. It has nothing to do with your settings in Logos4. It's how Logos 4 working (or not working) in XP. Hopefully this will be solved.

Ebbe

 

 

 

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Donovan R. Palmer | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 20 2009 12:34 AM | Locked

EbbeAndréasson:
This is a known font-problem since early beta testing. It has nothing to do with your settings in Logos4. It's how Logos 4 working (or not working) in XP. Hopefully this will be solved.

No probs and it's not a deal breaker. I am a bit surprised though to make it to RC and this is still not fixed. Hopefully it will be sorted before we go gold.

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Bradley Grainger (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 21 2009 10:41 AM | Locked

EbbeAndréasson:

When this is an release candidate I again mention there is still graphic mismatch in Logos 4 running XP.

I've probably asked this before, but do you have both of the "Install files for complex script and right-to-left languages (including Thai)" and "Install files for East Asian languages" checkboxes checked in Control Panel > Regional and Language Options, Languages tab?

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Donovan R. Palmer | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 21 2009 11:04 AM | Locked

Bradley, that fixed it. You are a genius!!!

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Donovan R. Palmer | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 21 2009 11:33 AM | Locked

I put together a page on it on the wiki:

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 21 2009 12:49 PM | Locked

Bradley Grainger:
I've probably asked this before, but do you have both of the "Install files for complex script and right-to-left languages (including Thai)" and "Install files for East Asian languages" checkboxes checked in Control Panel > Regional and Language Options, Languages tab?

There is a very long history behind it, but I cannot enable the additional languages on my machine which has made some Sanskrit texts unuseable. If this is what is required to get the fonts to work, I'll put up with a bit of font-flakiness for now.

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 21 2009 1:00 PM | Locked

I'm not a beta-tester but the issue of the fonts in L4 is on W7 as well (Parallel MT/LXX). I spent almost an hour with a level-2 service guy running my pc without successfully fixing it. Little did I know that moving away from the 'default' was the source of the problem. Would be good to let the support people know, for an easy fix to any with the existing L4 (and I guess the update as well).

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Ebbe Andréasson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 6:20 AM | Locked

Bradley Grainger:
I've probably asked this before

I don't think you mentioned this before but it realy did the trick!

Thank you!

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 6:42 AM | Locked

Bradley Grainger:

I've probably asked this before, but do you have both of the "Install files for complex script and right-to-left languages (including Thai)" and "Install files for East Asian languages" checkboxes checked in Control Panel > Regional and Language Options, Languages tab?

If this is a requirement, should it not be part of pre-requisites?

 

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 6:48 AM | Locked

just a note to Mark: you DO have a face!  Wow!  (I hope the Avatar change is not the result of the HS's fire leaving you . . . Surprise)

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Bradley Grainger (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 9:04 AM | Locked

Mark Barnes:

Bradley Grainger:

I've probably asked this before, but do you have both of the "Install files for complex script and right-to-left languages (including Thai)" and "Install files for East Asian languages" checkboxes checked in Control Panel > Regional and Language Options, Languages tab?

If this is a requirement, should it not be part of pre-requisites?

My question was just for diagnostic purposes, but it now sounds like it's becoming a requirement. Since those checkboxes control Windows components (which I don't think we're able to affect in our installer), I think we'd just have to put it in the documentation.

 

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 10:32 AM | Locked

MSI creation is mysterious voodoo as far as I'm concerned, but I have had to do something similar on a corporate network for other languages. This may help: http://www.appdeploy.com/messageboards/tm.asp?m=27125

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SteveF | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 22 2009 2:20 PM | Locked
Bradley: Quite a while ago I did BOTH of these suggestions. I'm running XP. But, IF I try to move off "default" it STILL messes up my Hebrew transliterations. So there is still something else going on. Regards Steve F

Regards, SteveF

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