Any chance Logos would support ChromeCast?
I'm unhappy with WiDi, and hoping that perhaps ChromeCast might work better to push Logos screens up onto monitors when teaching classes: http://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/chromecast/#chrome
Any chance of getting Logos to be able to use that API?
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GREAT Idea, Ward!!
Making Disciples! Logos Ecosystem = LogosMax on Microsoft Surface Pro 7 (Win11), Android app on tablet, FSB on iPhone & iPad mini, Proclaim (Proclaim Remote on Fire Tablet).
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Ward Walker said:
perhaps ChromeCast might work better to push Logos screens up onto monitors when teaching classes
Thanks Ward.
There are probably others here who are interested in how to project Logos easily when moving around classrooms without cables. How are people doing this at present?
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Mirroring the desktop is possible. It's an experimental feature. It clips the edges a bit and it lags quite a bit. Readability is the biggest issue. You have to up the fonts a good bit and the quality of the display will have a great affect on readability. It's workable at 720 (barely), but you'd really need something higher.
Bible Screen works great on it, however. Biblia is another option. Again, need big font size.
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Randy W. Sims said:
Mirroring the desktop is possible. It's an experimental feature. It clips the edges a bit and it lags quite a bit. Readability is the biggest issue.
Another thing that would work (in smaller class rooms) might be the apple TV. It native mirrors the mac computer and it's pretty speedy. I said smaller class rooms just realizing that I saw an ad on TV the other day for a 75 inch TV… when I got my 42 inch i thought it was virtually over kill… but it is very readable to use the computer on. Although I will admit I am still looking at my screen, it;s just a nice way to share it.
-Dan
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WidI's lag makes it tough to navigate menus on an extended screen (TV) from a laptop mousepad. My biggest issue is that McAfee really messes with WiDi, and I can't keep a stable connection up to my WiDi receiver. Carrying around long HDMI cables is really a pain.
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Hi. I do not know if this helps, but at times I keep my laptop connected to my TV through an HDMI cable, while using a wireless keyboard and mouse. That way, I do not need to carry the laptop, or HDMI cable, but am able to move freely through the room, while sharing my computer's screen on a bigger display.
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Ward Walker said:
I'm unhappy with WiDi, and hoping that perhaps ChromeCast might work better to push Logos screens up onto monitors when teaching classes:
I'm assuming you're stuck with Windows? That's why you were using WiDi? From what I read about Chromecast it does not support application mirroring, only the Chrome browser? I don't have one (don't need it) so can't confirm directly. Also some reviews say it is choppy.
Dan Francis said:Another thing that would work (in smaller class rooms) might be the apple TV. It native mirrors the mac computer and it's pretty speedy. I said smaller class rooms just realizing that I saw an ad on TV the other day for a 75 inch TV… when I got my 42 inch i thought it was virtually over kill… but it is very readable to use the computer on. Although I will admit I am still looking at my screen, it;s just a nice way to share it.
The Apple TV does work — very well. And it is not limited to smaller classrooms. It depends on the display equipment, for example if you had a high quality display projector you could project a very large screen.
Doing some simple tests at home looking at large (older, upscaled 720p, not native 1080p pixel resolution) flat panel TV, latest Apple TV (1080p) with AirPlay Mirroring from a desktop Mac and an 11" MacBook Air (mid-2011) over a 802.11n WLAN the MacBook Air was very clear, better than the desktop, absolutely no lag. Text very readable. If the TV was a native 1080p resolution and/or current 1080p projector would have been even better.
"I want to know all God's thoughts; the rest are just details." - Albert Einstein
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I notice that 2 users are already suggesting the appleTV. I used an ATV device with my iPad and it was a good experience. But we must remember that those outside of the Apple Ecosystem (and the latest statistics I've seen show that there are way more Windows based desktops and laptops than OSx machines) are also looking for solutions. For example, Ward (the OP) mentions Widi which does NOT support Apple devices. I recently attended a denominational conference that brought in a Nationally recognized consultant. All of his presentations were on his MacAir and his iPad but the church that was hosting did not have a wired way to connect these devices from the platform to their ceiling mounted projector. Unfortunately, the main thing I remember from that 2 day conference was Mac doesn't play nice with WiDi projectors.
The advantage of the ChromeCast technology (if it could be worked into Logos5) is that it is truly OS independent. I am not a programmer and don't know how difficult it would be to incorporate an API, but if there were a wireless display technology that was equally available to Windows and Mac users on a $35 device - I think that would be a win!
Making Disciples! Logos Ecosystem = LogosMax on Microsoft Surface Pro 7 (Win11), Android app on tablet, FSB on iPhone & iPad mini, Proclaim (Proclaim Remote on Fire Tablet).
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Okay, so there doesn't seem to be an obvious technology for wireless display from a PC to a various projectors at present, without carrying around something that's more bulky than a cable.
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Cross-referencing to http://community.logos.com/forums/t/80578.aspx , which Logos responded to back in Jan 2014. They wouldn't pursue Chromecast unless the SDK matured.
It seems to me that the SDK is now officlal (https://developers.google.com/cast/docs/developers )...so perhaps it is now time to add the feature?
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Ward Walker said:
Cross-referencing to http://community.logos.com/forums/t/80578.aspx , which Logos responded to back in Jan 2014. They wouldn't pursue Chromecast unless the SDK matured.
It seems to me that the SDK is now officlal (https://developers.google.com/cast/docs/developers )...so perhaps it is now time to add the feature?
I'll open an inquiry case and see if we can get approval to add Chromecast support to the iOS and Android Reader Suite apps. One thing to note though, if we DO add this, it would most likely work as Randy describes in the other thread...meaning, you could send your media resources to the TV (videos and possibly images) but not the text of a Bible or other resource. Streaming the videos is a good fit with Chromecast, but resource text doesn't make as much sense with the Chromecast model.
That said, if you're interested in projecting resource content onto a TV screen, one option would be to use biblia.com in Google Chrome on a laptop and cast the tab to the TV.
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Drew Hannay said:Ward Walker said:
Cross-referencing to http://community.logos.com/forums/t/80578.aspx , which Logos responded to back in Jan 2014. They wouldn't pursue Chromecast unless the SDK matured.
It seems to me that the SDK is now officlal (https://developers.google.com/cast/docs/developers )...so perhaps it is now time to add the feature?
I'll open an inquiry case and see if we can get approval to add Chromecast support to the iOS and Android Reader Suite apps. One thing to note though, if we DO add this, it would most likely work as Randy describes in the other thread...meaning, you could send your media resources to the TV (videos and possibly images) but not the text of a Bible or other resource. Streaming the videos is a good fit with Chromecast, but resource text doesn't make as much sense with the Chromecast model.
That said, if you're interested in projecting resource content onto a TV screen, one option would be to use biblia.com in Google Chrome on a laptop and cast the tab to the TV.
Thanks!
I've tried the Biblia approach for resource content; the itch that doesn't scratch is that I'd like to be able to show my markup/highlights/notes, and Biblia doesn't do that.
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