Some enhancements need clarification

1. It is not clear what options are available for:

Search Panel Basic
   Implemented linguistic sensitivity for searches. For example, “[match breathing,accents] ὀπτάνομαι” would search “be sensitive to breathing marks and accents in this term”.

2. I still see the Topic Section:

Search Panel Basic
   Redundant “Topic” sections have been removed due to better integration with the Topic & Sermon Starter Guides.

3. Please explain or give examples for:

KeyLink
   Made KeyLinking more sensitive to Hebrew and Greek marks. 
   Typing text in the resource navigator box returns better results.

Dave
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Windows 11 & Android 13

Comments

  • Dylan Rondeau
    Dylan Rondeau Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,401

    It is not clear what options are available for:

    I have updated the release notes to include a link to this page: Search Matching Commands

    I still see the Topic Section:

    I've clarified it a bit. We removed links to topics.logos.com since that has now been superseded by the Topic Guide.

    Please explain or give examples for:

    1. Open HALOT and navigate to the article: אֲבִיעֶזֶר
    2. Now double-click on the root word in that article: עֵזֶר
    3. Previous result: You’d find yourself taken to the article for I עזר, even though there is a better match with an exact spelling of עֵזֶר.
    4. New result: You are taken to the article for עֵזֶר

    This same sort of sensitivity is now implemented when suggesting words while typing in the navigator box.

    Dylan Rondeau, Software Tester

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,767

    Thanks Dylan

    • Previous result: You’d find yourself taken to the article for I עזר, even though there is a better match with an exact spelling of עֵזֶר.
    • New result: You are taken to the article for I עֵזֶר

    Did you mean the New Result is the article for עֵזֶר?

    Dave
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  • Dylan Rondeau
    Dylan Rondeau Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,401

    Yes, that is what I meant. For some reason that got converted to a | when I pasted it, and I left it in when I corrected it. Thanks!

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,405

    We removed links to topics.logos.com since that has now been superseded by the Topic Guide.

    Er, ah, I can see topics.logos.com as a failed attempt (despite some of my best efforts) but to imply that Topic Guide supersedes it is puzzling/nonsensical to say the least. If, however, this is true I would suggest that the topics portion of topics.logos.com be removed so that I waste no more time trying to integrate names from http://www.abarim-publications.com/, mentally complaining that Logos never addressed disambiguation and update issues, addressing alternative vocabulary by denomination etc. ....

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  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 11,969

    MJ. Smith said:

    We removed links to topics.logos.com since that has now been superseded by the Topic Guide.

    Er, ah, I can see topics.logos.com as a failed attempt (despite some of my best efforts) but to imply that Topic Guide supersedes it is puzzling/nonsensical to say the least.

    The spec shows a "topics.logos.com" section in the Topic Guide, but obviously no such section is present. I'll follow up on this.

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    I have updated the release notes to include a link to this page: Search Matching Commands

    I appreciate the granularity that these options give, but fear they will never be used. Could we include the main options on the search menu, perhaps in place of "search all forms" (at least for a morph search).

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,767

    [match marks] — makes all non-spacing marks significant. Equivalent to Logos 3 “marks()”.
    [match nomarks] — ignores all non-spacing marks, regardless of language defaults.
    [match exact] — equivalent to the Logos 3 “exact()” term modifier.

    These could be added to the search menu for Morph in place of the algorithmic "Match all word forms", recognising that English words are still valid but restricted to the stated form.

    Dave
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  • Angela Murashov
    Angela Murashov Member Posts: 1,532

    Bradley Grainger (Logos) said:The spec shows a "topics.logos.com" section in the Topic Guide, but obviously no such section is present. I'll follow up on this.

    "Topics.logos.com" section will be implemented in 5.2 Beta 3.