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Alberta | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Oct 18 2013 5:42 AM

Can anyone tell me why Logos no longer sells Mills's books?  I have 13 of them, purchased years ago I guess, but can't pull up any titles at all now.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 18 2013 5:59 AM

Alberta:

Can anyone tell me why Logos no longer sells Mills's books?  I have 13 of them, purchased years ago I guess, but can't pull up any titles at all now.

Alberta,

who is Ms Mills - DiAnn? Then the books may be found on Vyrso: https://vyrso.com/products/search?q=author%3Amills&start=0&sort=pricelo&pageSize=30 

Or whom are you looking for (maybe give a title of what you own)? Sometimes, but not very often, books become unavailable, most notably in recent times all the ones published by Moody.

If something really wasavailable many years ago, there are chances that CD-Roms still are available from third parties.

Hope anything of this this helps a bit.

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Alberta | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 18 2013 6:33 AM

Montague Stephen Mills, theologian.  

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 18 2013 6:49 AM

Likewise curious; these resources were included in 2010 and 2011 Christmas Bundles.

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 18 2013 6:49 AM

This is M.S. Mills: http://www.bibcom.org/resources-books-articles-training/monty-mills/

It is most likely that the copyright holder pulled the rights for Logos to publish.  The original publisher on the Mills resource I checked was 3E Ministies, but they don't seem to exist anymore.  Currently, the website I listed above is distributing his works.

I suspect you'd have to ask either Mills himself or the current distributor to find out the reasons.

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 18 2013 6:55 AM

Alberta:

Can anyone tell me why Logos no longer sells Mills's books?  I have 13 of them, purchased years ago I guess, but can't pull up any titles at all now.

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Are you running Logos 4 or Logos 5? Some of the older Libronix titles have not been upgraded to run on Logos 4/5. That would explain why it is not being sold any more. 

I had the M.S. Mills Collection in my library too and it is now missing! This is a disturbing to have resources disappear from my library. I have also lost tte Works of Bill Bright (another Libronix CD.)

I think we need to contact Customer Service. 

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Alberta | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 18 2013 8:01 AM

Running Logos 5.  I guess I bought them as the Christmas bundle ... don't recall.  If you bought them you still own them.  Customer service issue.

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 18 2013 8:11 AM

Alberta:

Running Logos 5.  I guess I bought them as the Christmas bundle ... don't recall.  If you bought them you still own them.  Customer service issue.

 

I bought it in Libronix format and they are still in my Libronix 3.0g library. I just synced my licenses with the Logos servers and Logos 5.1 did not pick it up.

The Christmas Bundle did include M.S. Mills' books. The files names for the Christmas Bundle were a little different than the file names for the Libronix format. That could be the issue. Still I should have them in Logos if I have them in Libronix since they are available for Logos.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 18 2013 8:27 AM

I show the only two I ever had in my Library:

Colossians with a file date of 2002-08-08T19:04:44Z, file name sa_3ecolos.lbxlls

The Life of Christ with a file date of 2010-11-12T19:03:26Z, file name SA_3ELOC.logos4

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Alberta | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 18 2013 8:29 AM

this  response from Bibcom's CEO just now:

Hi,
As I understand it, Mr. Mills received far less in royalties than he had contracted for so he chose to end the contract with Logos.

We have electronic versions of his wonderful materials   If you want printed books you may try to contact him directly via email.

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Neil
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Alberta | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 18 2013 8:31 AM

Bibcom sent me this:

Hi,
As I understand it, Mr. Mills received far less in royalties than he had contracted for so he chose to end the contract with Logos.

We have electronic versions of his wonderful materials   If you want printed books you may try to contact him directly via email.

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Neil
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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 18 2013 8:45 AM

Alberta:
As I understand it, Mr. Mills received far less in royalties than he had contracted for so he chose to end the contract with Logos.

I certainly hope this is a misunderstanding. If not, it needs to be corrected if the fault is Logos'.

This explains why one cannot buy them in Logos format. Never-the-less those who did own his books in Logos should still have access to them.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 18 2013 11:02 AM

Mark Smith:

Alberta:
As I understand it, Mr. Mills received far less in royalties than he had contracted for so he chose to end the contract with Logos.

I certainly hope this is a misunderstanding. If not, it needs to be corrected if the fault is Logos'.

This explains why one cannot buy them in Logos format. Never-the-less those who did own his books in Logos should still have access to them.

I only wonder, since the new website linked above gives his works away at very erm, user-friendly prices (between zero and five dollars). Curiosity got me and I threw $5 at a Romans bible study with no indication from the website what I would get - turned out to be a near 400 pages non-DRM PDF, bible study and commentary with greek word explanations (lots of it, awfully transliterated) and all kind of very conservative 20th century evangelical learning from a non-calvinistic perspective. Would love to have this in Logos format.

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Benjamin Tan | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 5 2013 4:34 PM

Hey thanks for the heads up.  I like Monty Mills books too.  Sadly I cannot access the Logos version I got a few years ago (currently restricted to browser mode) but DRM free pdf sounds very good.

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