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Xegesis | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Jan 11 2014 6:46 PM

The kindle brightness feature allows you to decrease the brightness to even less than the minimum of the ios device.  I like to read with the sepia background.  When reading in bed in the dark I'm able to reduce the brightness in the kindle app to a setting which is lower than the ios device which makes it easier on my eyes.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 11 2014 8:10 PM

In iOS 7 you can swipe up from the bottom of the iPad screen with one finger and adjust the brightness setting from the panel that pops up. That will take you to as little light as the iPad will give you. If that is too bright you need to take your suggestion to Apple. Logos has no control beyond that.

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 11 2014 8:28 PM

Mark Smith:

In iOS 7 you can swipe up from the bottom of the iPad screen with one finger and adjust the brightness setting from the panel that pops up. That will take you to as little light as the iPad will give you. If that is too bright you need to take your suggestion to Apple. Logos has no control beyond that.

What the Kindle brightness control does is twofold, first it lowers the backlight brightness (like you can on the iOS panel), then, when the backlight is at the lowest, it starts to lower the individual pixel values (so that white becomes grey, sepia becomes brown, etc), effectively making it seem much darker and easier on the eyes than what is accomplished with only setting the backlight to the minimum.

I think it's a great system, and I assume that Logos could do it if they deemed it useful. 

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Xegesis | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 13 2014 4:08 AM

Todd thank you, that is exactly what I believe logos could easily implement into their app. I'm surprised more developers like those at twitter don't include that feature.

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Paul-C | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 13 2014 4:54 AM

I'd like to see this feature too as when I read in the dark, I often wish the brightness of the screen was a touch lower - even after I've set the iOS brightness setting to its minimum.

I like the fact that the Kindle iOS app can darken the screen even past IOS' lowest setting! 

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 13 2014 9:42 AM

Paul-C:

I'd like to see this feature too as when I read in the dark, I often wish the brightness of the screen was a touch lower - even after I've set the iOS brightness setting to its minimum.

I like the fact that the Kindle iOS app can darken the screen even past IOS' lowest setting! 

The question I'd have is whether this is possible in iOS. Does iOS give a programmer the tools to do this? I'm no programmer so don't know. It seems from what you are saying it is a system-level feature in the Kindle.

EDIT: Re-reading I see you are referring to the iOS Kindle app when all along I thought it was the Kindle itself you were referring to. Very different. You can tell I don't read in bed at night with the light out, and don't even read well with the light on. Wink

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Bev N | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 18 2014 4:38 PM

Is the brightness control that you are speaking of different than the brightness control in the Logos App when you touch the "A" on the right side of the open Bible! app pane?

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Liam | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 18 2014 5:42 PM

Paul-C:

I'd like to see this feature too as when I read in the dark, I often wish the brightness of the screen was a touch lower - even after I've set the iOS brightness setting to its minimum.

I like the fact that the Kindle iOS app can darken the screen even past IOS' lowest setting! 

Totally Agree!!!

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Xegesis | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 18 2014 6:32 PM

Hi Bev, that brightness control just controls the iOS brightness. There needs to be a separate brightness control that darkens the background further.  Download the kindle app and play with them side by side and you will be able to see the difference, especially in the dark when the iOS brightness is at its lowest setting.

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 18 2014 6:50 PM

Well, I decided to take Xegesis up on the lighting 'taste test'.  For the experiment, I turned off the livingroom light, left the TV on, plus the fake fireplace.

Then I put the Kindle Paperwhite at its lowest lighting plus the iOS at its lowest lighting along with Logos at its lowest lighting.  Then I took a picture (while listening to my spouse wondering 'heh ... what's going on??').

Below is the result. Now, granted, this was a totally unfair test using the Paperwhite; maybe the iOS just couldn't get dark at all? So I instead compared the Kindle version on iOS with the Logos one.  That bombed out. First, the picture looked like only one was on, plus my marriage was nearing its eminent termination.

Now, ignoring Todd's more intelligent explanation, I notice OliveTree's minimum is similar to Logos iOS.  Accordance was a hair darker (but has a night-mode switch). Laridian is also similar to Logos.  Obviously the market for Bible software is not a nighttime one?

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David Medina | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 18 2014 7:32 PM

Not sure if I understand the request, but in my iPad both the kindle app as well as the logos app has the exact same brightness control and effect.

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 18 2014 7:44 PM

David ... we must be living on opposite sides of the universe.  I put the Logos at its lowest setting and then the Kindle at its lowest setting (both iOS).  I really have trouble making out the Kindle's screen absent turning the TV off (along with the lights). The Logos is a regular beacon great for using as a flashlight to take the trash out (or cross the universe, depending).

Now I do notice, if my iOS is not at its lowest setting, and I move the Logos to its lowest setting, Logos (in broad firelight) will INCREASE the light setting back to the iOS level.   I wonder who thought that up?  (Or indeed, I do live on the opposite side of the universe.)

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Xegesis | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 18 2014 7:51 PM

 Here is a kindle screenshot on an iPad air running iOS 7. Notice how the system brightness on the bottom is all the way left while the kindle brightness is not. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 18 2014 8:02 PM

David Medina:

Not sure if I understand the request, but in my iPad both the kindle app as well as the logos app has the exact same brightness control and effect.

The Logos brightness controls are tied to the iOS settings... the Kindle brightness controls are independent of the iOS settings.

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Paul-C | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 19 2014 5:25 AM

Another comparison:

Here's the Logos iOS app with iOS set to lowest brightness:

And the kindle iOS app with the iOS brightness set to minimum AND the in-app kindle brightness set to minimum:

Spot the difference! Big Smile

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 19 2014 6:12 AM

One resource has much better tagging than the other?

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 19 2014 7:03 AM

Looks to me like the highlighting is the issue.  Especially the 'Me' part.

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Bev N | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 20 2014 8:41 AM

Mine is much darker to the point it is difficult to read. If I take a screen shot the photo makes it lighter otherwise I would post screen shot. I'm using iPad4 iOS7

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Bev N | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 20 2014 10:35 AM

Xegesis, are the bottom controls on the screen specific to iPad Air?

I opened my Kindle App on iPad4 iOS7, but the bottom controls do not appear.

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Paul-C | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 20 2014 10:43 AM

Bev N:

Xegesis, are the bottom controls on the screen specific to iPad Air?

Not Xegesis, but those controls are part of iOS 7 - you swipe up from bottom of screen to access them.

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