Which Abingdon Commentary volumes other than Eph by Pheme Perkins?

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Unix | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Mar 8 2014 1:18 PM

I'm wondering if there are any more Abingdon Commentary volumes that You think are good (besides Eph by Pheme Perkins which is pretty good)?

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HansK | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 8 2014 1:28 PM

Do you mean the NIB?

The volume on Romans by N.T. Wright is good IMHO.

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Ken McGuire | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 8 2014 1:40 PM

The one I have used the most is the one on Revelation, and it is decent.  Grabbed Thessalonians in Vyrso format by V.P. Furnish, since he is always solid.  I have seen good reviews of many of the Old Testament volumes, but have never used them.

The problem with commentaries of this level is that they can be an introduction to the discussion but are too short to really give all the evidence or other views.  And so while I recognize that many of the authors are quite good or even experts on those texts, there are better technical commentaries.  But they are good for what they are - brief treatments to introduce interested people into the discussion that the guild of biblical scholars have been saying on the texts.  They are also good to "check your work" after doing exegetical work to briefly see if you are from Mars or something with your interpretation...

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Unix | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 8 2014 2:10 PM

No:

HansK:
Do you mean the NIB?


I disagree. I don't like him. I have only three books by him, they are not commentaries and I've read only one of them. I don't like that he used to be one of the biggest promoters of the NPP:

HansK:
The volume on Romans by N.T. Wright is good.


I have a selection of technical commentaries: Eerdmans Critical Commentary on GJn and introduction to 1-3 Jn in Logos, 2 ICC volumes (Is 44:24-55:13 as printed matter, 2 Cor 1-7 in Logos), all Hermeneia volumes except two (in Logos), Continental Commentaries (in Logos), Anchor Yale Bible Commentary New Testament set including the old Mt volume in Accordance:

Ken McGuire:
The problem with commentaries of this level is that they can be an introduction to the discussion but are too short to really give all the evidence or other views.  And so while I recognize that many of the authors are quite good or even experts on those texts, there are better technical commentaries.

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Unix | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 9 2014 2:01 PM

This is getting a little bit expensive, my mom also wants to the Eph commentary in the account for her (for when she has has retired) and my friend(s), and the selection of 1-2 Thess commentaries in my library is getting much wider than what I originally intended a year ago.

So I'll cancel the pre-order for the ICC 1-2 Thess volume. Do You think there has been so much new scholarship this ongoing decade that the 1-2 Thess ICC volume in Logos would add something? AZ link: 1 & 2 Thessalonians: A Critical and Exegetical Commentary (International Critical Commentary). My pre-order price: £42.85. Which commentary would be quality for the whole price: Abingdon New Testament Commentary on 1-2 Thess or ICC on 1-2 Thess?

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 9 2014 3:53 PM

Unix:
I don't like him. I have only three books by him, they are not commentaries and I've read only one of them.

You have decided you don't like him after reading just one book

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Unix | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 9 2014 3:59 PM

I had to buy something because I bought those three books used together with a couple of other books. The license transfer fee is so high.

I forgot I have one more book which I'm going to read. I wouldn't trust him on many of the topics on which he has authored books.

I've read several articles and book reviews and watched a video interview. I used to think he was OK:

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You have decided you don't like him after reading just one book?:
Unix:
I don't like him. I have only three books by him, they are not commentaries and I've read only one of them.

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 9 2014 6:13 PM

About N. T. Wright

You said, "I disagree. I don't like him. I have only three books by him, they are not commentaries and I've read only one of them. I don't like that he used to be one of the biggest promoters of the NPP ."

I presume NPP is the New Perspective on Paul.  I don't particularly like that either.  However, that does not invalidate the outstanding contribution of N. T. Wright to New Testament study.  I believe that he is one of the best scholars / theologians out there.  That doesn't mean that I have to agree with him.  I can still benefit from considering his ideas and insights.  I certainly would not write him off so lightly.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 9 2014 6:21 PM

Michael Childs:
I believe that he is one of the best scholars / theologians out there.  That doesn't mean that I have to agree with him.  I can still benefit from considering his ideas and insights.

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Unix | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 9 2014 11:40 PM

Can we get back on topic now about the Abingdon Commentaries and ICC on 1-2 Thess?

The Eph volume seems awesome. My mom won't like that it doesn't view that letter as written by Paul, but if I get a friend I bet she/he will be interested in reading this commentary volume.

I would gain too little from reading more N. T. Wright books, I have much better use for my time than reading N. T. Wright's huge and expensive tomes on Paul and I'm not interested in 75% discounts. I have lots of all kind of unread books to utilize somehow or even read cover-to-cover, and lots of Greek to learn which will also take a lot of time. I have a budget for books now - I have recently tightened my budget, and it stretches over another 11⅛ years. I'm putting $1,500 into a savings account where the money will be unavailable for 1 year, I'll try to save the money for a car with the top-speed of 20 MPH (it will take (many?) years - since I also will have to save for a warm garage) so that it will be easy to get to Church and not having to travel by bus all the time - the public transport connections are very bad on Sundays and almost as bad on Saturdays. Even though I live in the capital area in a densely populated suburb there's so few Churches to choose from nearby that I haven't visited the nearby Churches and travel 1-1½ hours to Church, one way.

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 10 2014 6:59 AM

Are the Abingdon Commentaries even available in Logos?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 10 2014 7:35 AM

Michael Childs:

Are the Abingdon Commentaries even available in Logos?

They are available in Vyrso - https://vyrso.com/products/search?q=abingdon&Genre=Commentaries 

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Unix | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 11 2014 2:20 AM

bump!

  • Would it be a good idea to get the volume on Eph in the account for friend(s)?
  • Are there any more volumes besides Eph and 1-2 Thess that I should get myself?
  • Should I consider any of the most recent volumes? Or not consider some because of age?

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Adam Rao | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 12 2014 7:56 AM

Can someone explain how Vyrso books work in Logos? Do they download and integrate just like normal Logos resources?

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Ken McGuire | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 12 2014 8:17 AM

Adam Rao:

Can someone explain how Vyrso books work in Logos? Do they download and integrate just like normal Logos resources?

Vyrso books download into your Logos installation just like any other book, and so you can read it like any other book.  That is the good side.  But Vyrso books have very limited automated tagging for scripture references - and that is it.  It has no "index" tags built in - either bible or page.  It does not show up in (most) reports. For a Commentary, we would want (and often expect) more. But you can read it in Logos, and search for text in it in Logos - and hope that it turns into a proper Logos resource someday.

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