Win 8 Computer does not have Graeca II or Hebraica II fonts

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Dr. Jon | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Mar 8 2014 11:08 PM

I recently replaced an old computer with a new one running WIN 8. I have Logos 5 Gold. Just now, I wanted to write in Greek to my Power Point program which will present my notes in tomorrow's sermon. WIN 8 does not have the Graeca II font (or Hebraica II) which I have been using for years.I used those fonts from the earliest days of Logos Bible Software...I think they came with the software.

How can I get them back?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 8 2014 11:22 PM

http://www.linguistsoftware.com/graecahebraica.htm

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 8 2014 11:22 PM

Dr. Jon,

As it so happens, I just had the exact same experience yesterday (I had a Word document in which I'd formatted some Greek text using Graeca II but the font was not on my machine so it came out as gobbledygook). I was able to find my old Graeca II and Hebraica II fonts on my old Windows XP machine, which still boots (barely). I'm not sure if I have permission to share them here, since these fonts are still for sale by Linguist's Software (http://www.linguistsoftware.com/graecahebraica.htm). But since you need them ASAP, and I don't have time to ask your email address and get a reply (I'm about to go to bed), and I trust that you acquired them legitimately originally by buying Logos software (which used to license these fonts from a third party but no longer does), I'll go ahead and post them, and then I'll remove them tomorrow.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 8 2014 11:26 PM

Dr. Jon:
How can I get them back?

http://community.logos.com/forums/t/65386.aspx makes the point they no longer work with Logos 4 / 5

Apparently (http://community.logos.com/forums/t/15127.aspx) Graeca II was shipped with Logos 2. Do you still happen to have access to that distribution?

Do you need to use these specific fonts? Are you aware of the Logos Windows Keyboards available at https://www.logos.com/support/logos5/windows/keyboards? 

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 8 2014 11:49 PM

Graham Criddle:

Dr. Jon:
How can I get them back?

http://community.logos.com/forums/t/65386.aspx makes the point they no longer work with Logos 4 / 5

Apparently (http://community.logos.com/forums/t/15127.aspx) Graeca II was shipped with Logos 2. Do you still happen to have access to that distribution?

Do you need to use these specific fonts? Are you aware of the Logos Windows Keyboards available at https://www.logos.com/support/logos5/windows/keyboards? 

Dr. Jon requires them for use with PowerPoint rather than Logos but a good point to clarify for others reading this thread Graham.

 

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 9 2014 12:06 AM

There are other Greek fonts available. Logos currently uses SBL Greek and SBL Hebrew, which are available for free here: http://www.sbl-site.org/educational/biblicalfonts.aspx

The only reason one would need Graeca II and Hebraica II would be if, like me, they'd used them to format chunks of text in other software (e.g., Word or PowerPoint) back in the pre-Logos 4 days and now can no longer read those documents without the fonts installed.

I am now beginning to keep a list of add-on fonts that I've installed to add to the ones that came with Windows, so that I can carry them forward with me to any new machine I get.

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Dr. Jon | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 9 2014 12:52 AM

Thank you...yes...I did purchase them through my original Libronix software collection. Thank you for your help.

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adam clinton dixon | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 29 2015 8:07 PM

Hi Rosie,

Thanks for your reply to Jon (above).  I had the same issue.  As Libronix grew and turned into Logos I went with it - but lost the Graeca II font.  All the papers I wrote in seminary use Graeca II or Hebraica.  I have hard copies... in my garage... somewhere.  But I'd like to be able to read my digital copies.  I've searched and searched for those old fonts. 

I was able to get Graeca II again through your post.   I appreciate that. 

For some reason it's not helping with my papers though.  Now, instead of gobblygook, they have squares.  It appears that all the letters have been erased.  Sigh.  But sincerely, thanks for your help.  Just making it this far has been an encouragement.  If I found out that having the fonts again doesn't fix my problem after re-purchasing them, I would be even more frustrated.   

Adam

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 29 2015 8:17 PM

Are you sure you used the right font? 

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adam clinton dixon | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 29 2015 8:55 PM

Yes, I believe so.  It's Graeca II. When I hovered over the words (which looked like wingdigs) the font box said Graeca II.  

All my papers had wingdigs in place of Graeca II and Hebraica.  

I reinstalled those fonts and now all my papers have boxes.  

Here's a cut-n-paste from one of those papers.  

Many contemporary evangelicals assume that a prophecy is a prediction that has only one clear fulfillment, but Matthew’s use of , “to fulfill,” challenges that assumption.  He uses various forms of  and a total of seventeen times in his gospel.  Eleven times he uses the phrase , 

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Mark H McIntyre | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 10 2015 5:19 PM

I have the same issue with seeing boxes in a Word document in which I have Greek words that were typed using Graeca font. Did you ever find a solution?

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David E Haeuser | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 11 2015 5:59 AM

I had some old documents that used the Graeca II and Hebraica II fonts. I installed the old Libronix program which included the ability to convert the fonts from Graeca and Hebraica to unicode fonts just so I could rescue the Greek and Hebrew in old documents like that. Not everything works, but that part of the program still worked.

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Dr. Jon | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 11 2015 8:18 AM

Thank you for asking. Yes. I did receive help on several different levels. If you scroll through the thread you will see several different solutions, appropriate for those who already had owned the rights to use Graeca fonts and for those who need to buy them, as well as for those (like me) who didn't realize there is still a Greek (and Hebrew) fontset that comes within Libronix. I haven't figured out how to use the latter outside of Libronix as of yet, but that is next on my to do list for today.

Take a look at the first two or three replies in this thread and follow those links.

BTW, to enable the GRAECA II stuff (if you download the zip file, you will need to unzip the file (extract). Then, copy those files into your fonts folder. To do that, type FONTS into your search bar for windows. It will take you to your Control Panel>Control Panel Fonts folder. Then, paste the unzipped files into the fonts folder. They will be installed and then you will be able to use them in your word processor.

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Philip B. Payne | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 9 2016 3:27 PM

The only way legally to acquire Graeca II and/or Hebraica II is to purchase a product in which they are included. The cheapest such product is Graeca II & Hebraica II, $39.95 from Linguist's Software, see https://www.linguistsoftware.com/graecahebraica.htm. Logos owners may order any Linguist's Software product at 20% off by noting "Logos owner" in the special instructions window near the bottom of the order form at https://www.linguistsoftware.com/orders/orders.htm. Please note that the old Graeca II & Hebraica II and even earlier Graeca and Hebraica fonts licensed by Logos were in a symbol font format that is no longer recognized by any version of Word for Windows since Word 95. This is why texts appear as rectangles instead of Greek or Hebrew text. The way to convert such old text into Graeca II & Hebraica II text that appears properly in versions of Word later than Word 95 is to purchase Graeca II & Hebraica II, install them in a computer with access to Word 95, open the document in Word 95 (the Graeca II and Hebraica II text will now appear properly),and  save that document. Now the document can be opened and read in later versions of Word for Windows and other applications that read Word documents as long as Graeca II & Hebraica II are installed on that computer. Linguist's Software will do this conversion for you for $49 an hour. You can order custom conversions of Word documents containing Graeca II and/or Hebraica II using the order form at https://www.linguistsoftware.com/orders/orders.htm, noting any special instructions in the special instructions windows near the bottom of the order form. 

If you need to convert Graeca II into Unicode, such as the SymbolGreekU fonts used to publish the Nestle-Aland Novum Testamentum Graece 28th edition (see  https://www.linguistsoftware.com/lgku.htm), the LaserGreek Converter (see  https://www.linguistsoftware.com/lgkc.htm) with a single command convert all instances, even if there are thousands of such instances, of Graeca II text in a Word document into, e.g. SymbolGreekU. I know because I converted thousands of instances of LaserGreek ASCII text in my book, Man and Woman, One in Christ (Zondervan) from a LaserGreek font into the Unicode encoded OdysseaUBSU.

The LaserHebrew Converter (see  https://www.linguistsoftware.com/lhebc.htm) converts instances of Hebraica II text in a Word document one by one into Unicode encoded fonts, e.g. NewJerusalemU (see https://www.linguistsoftware.com/lhebu.htm), the font licensed by Oxford University Press for all members of the Oxford Hebrew Bible team.

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Philip B. Payne | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 9 2016 3:49 PM

Rosie, you are not authorized to offer for download the copyrighted Graeca II & Hebraica II fonts. Please remove this download link immediately. These fonts can be purchased legally from Linguist's Software at https://linguistsoftware.com/graecahebraica.htm. Please notify everyone who has downloaded the link of this. Please also the copyright owner of all email addresses to which it has been downloaded using contact information at www.linguistsoftware.com.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 9 2016 4:43 PM

Mark H McIntyre:

I have the same issue with seeing boxes in a Word document in which I have Greek words that were typed using Graeca font. Did you ever find a solution?

Probably the most easy solution would be to reformat those Greek words with a free non-Unicode Greek font (such as Teknia) that you install and then do a search/replace. Going forward it would be better to replace those with text in a Unicode font, such as SBL BibLit, SBL Greek etc.

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Philip B. Payne | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 9 2016 5:45 PM

The reason for the boxes is that the old Graeca II & Hebraica II and even earlier Graeca and Hebraica fonts licensed by Logos were in a symbol font format that is no longer recognized by any version of Word for Windows since Word 95. The way to convert such old text into Graeca II & Hebraica II text that appears properly in versions of Word later than Word 95 is to purchase Graeca II & Hebraica II with fonts that newer versions of Word recognizes ($39.95, https://www.linguistsoftware.com/graecahebraica.htm. Logos owners may order any Linguist's Software product at 20% off by noting "Logos owner" in the special instructions window near the bottom of the order form at https://www.linguistsoftware.com/orders/orders.htm), install them in a computer with access to Word 95, open the document in Word 95 (the Graeca II and Hebraica II text will now appear properly),and  save that document. Now the document can be opened and read in later versions of Word for Windows and other applications that read Word documents as long as Graeca II & Hebraica II are installed on that computer. Linguist's Software will do this conversion for you for $49 an hour. You can order custom conversions of Word documents containing Graeca II and/or Hebraica II using the order form at https://www.linguistsoftware.com/orders/orders.htm, noting any special instructions in the special instructions windows near the bottom of the order form. 

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