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Pavel Škoda | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014 2:19 AM

Unfortunatelly so far there is no convenient e-ink device out of the box (ie. min 6" display, full Android 4)

This thread should be used for posting any relevant info. 

Nook Touch eReader (root needed) - Android 2.1
http://community.logos.com/forums/p/36601/274262.aspx#274262

Tolino Shine Reader (root needed) - Andoid 2.3
http://community.logos.com/forums/p/80212/561403.aspx#561403

Sony PRS-T1, T2 (root needed) - Android 2.2 (2.3?)
http://community.logos.com/forums/p/63763/570149.aspx#570149

Onyx Boox T68 (not released yet) - Android 4 (probably most perspective device for Logos app e-ink)
https://onyx-boox.com/coming-soon-e-ink-news/onyx-boox-t-68/
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=225652&page=3

Onyx M96 e-ink mobile phone - Android 4, but only 4,3" display
https://onyx-boox.com/coming-soon-e-ink-news/e-ink-smartphone/
http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/2013/10/16/onyx-readies-android-e-ink-phone-and-android-4-0-onyx-m96-9-7-ereader-video/

Yotaphone - 4,3" display (device is too expensive)
fist-gen: http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/19/yota-phone-uk-launch/
next gen: http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/23/next-gen-yotaphone/

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Daniel Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 8 2014 6:43 AM

I'm pretty sure the Logos app no longer works on Android 2.1 but it's been a while since I looked at it.  You might be able to dig up an older version of the Logos app and get by for a while. 

I played around with possibilities about a year ago when I got a Nook Touch for $20 on clearance.  But for many people the slowness of loading books/apps even rooted on a Nook Touch/Glowlight is not worth the trouble of trying to get it working.  It is nice in theory to access Kindle and Nook books on one device.  And perhaps worth the trouble if you need to read outside.  Otherwise, there are many options under $100 for 7" Android tablets that run the latest or one revision back of the OS and won't be a hassle/stop working whenever something is updated.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 8 2014 6:46 AM

Daniel Lee:
I'm pretty sure the Logos app no longer works on Android 2.1 but it's been a while since I looked at it

This is correct

The current release requires Android 2.3 and up

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Pavel Škoda | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 8 2014 9:34 AM

I agree, in my opinion the only reasonable choice for reading Logos books is device with Android 4.x - e.g. Onyx Boox T68.

E-ink is only acceptable choice for those of us working all the day with PC and thus having eye strain in the evening. For example I can read on my Kindle 3 (e-ink) 2 hours without problem but after 20 min of reading book in Logos on IPad 4 I feel strong eyestrain.

Bible study (working with languages, commentaries etc.) is of course best on PC with large LCD. It is not possible on e-ink device to work efficiently. BUT slowness of e-ink device is quite acceptable if it is used only for sequentional reading of Logos books (and taking occasional highlighting). 

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Pavel Škoda | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 23 2014 10:51 PM

Onyx Boox T68 - new pictures and specs

Android 4.0

http://www.onyx-international.com.cn/en/products_ny.php?serial=4642

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 24 2014 1:23 AM

Pavel,

do you know whether one will have to root the Onyx Boox?

Mick

Running Logos 8 latest beta version on Win 10

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Kaj | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 24 2014 5:04 AM

I own a Onyx Boox i62HD. That's a non-android e-ink device. I have exported books from the bible software and converted them to PDF in order to read them on my e-reader. I must say it's so much easier on the eyes to read from my e-reader as opposed to my notebook screen.I would consider buying the T86 if I didn't own an ereader yet.

Only thing with Onyx is that their support is not that well. It is a relatively small china-based company - as compared to major players such as Kobo, Amazon Kindle etc. There are some local dealers, such as one in the States, Poland and Germany. But these companies are even smaller, and it turns out for my device that release of firmwares with bugfixes has come to a hold. Also they promised to release support for TTS screen reading software, but it seems they changed their mind. www.mobileread.com has got a lot of info about these issues from onyx users.
It has turned silent probably because their main attention is on the newer android-based models. At one point also these - now new - devices will become out-of-sale products, and at that point they also might stop releasing firmwares on these models.

But from a hardware standpoint I am satisfied with the reader, and I probably still buy one if it would be the best reader around as it comes to the specs.

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Bentley Crawford | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 1 2014 8:16 PM

The newest Oynx Boox in production, the C65 Afterglow, says that one can install various Android apps:

https://onyx-boox.com/e-book-readers-eink-onyx-boox/onyx-boox-c65-afterglow/

This would mean no rooting necessary. Any reason why this wouldn't work with the Logos android app?

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Bentley Crawford | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 1 2014 8:28 PM

Also, guys, what do you think about this? The new Kobo Aura HD has been used to run Android 2.3 via an external Micro-sd. This thing has 1Gz of processor. Can it run the full Logos android app?

New Hack Lets You Install Android on the External SD card ...

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Pavel Škoda | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 2 2014 12:17 AM

Thanks for tip Bentley. 

I googled little about C65 and it does not have Google Play to install apps. But it is possible to install apps via memory card.

See: http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=210843&page=3

Especially posts from user Anavim 

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2709149&postcount=43

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2745291&postcount=83

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 2 2014 12:22 AM

Bentley Crawford:

Also, guys, what do you think about this? The new Kobo Aura HD has been used to run Android 2.3 via an external Micro-sd. This thing has 1Gz of processor. Can it run the full Logos android app?

there is a discussion at http://community.logos.com/forums/p/83215/583856.aspx#583856 regarding running the Logos app on the Aura

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Pavel Škoda | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 3 2014 1:11 PM

New video of Onyx Boox T68 - device is going to be available in June.

According to video Google Play icon is there and ready to use Smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Latd8svqno

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Pavel Škoda | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 19 2014 1:47 AM

New graphic presentation of Boox T68 features:

http://www.onyx-international.com.cn/en/products_ny.php?serial=4642

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Daniel M | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 17 2014 7:32 AM

Hi,

I bought an Onyx T68 specifically to be able to read my Logos rescources on an E-ink device. I just received mine and installed the Logos Bible app on it, my first impression is favorable, although the device is not very snappy everything seems to work. Page turning in the Bible app is fine most of the time, with a newly opened resource the first page turn sometimes takes a few seconds but that even happens on my Nexus 7 with some books. Highlighting functions as far as I can see. I will try it out in the following days and post an update when I find the time.

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Daniel M | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 17 2014 11:27 AM

Here are some answers to questions I was asked regarding the Onyx Boox T68, they might be of interest.

1. How sharp is the text (as compared to a paperwhite for instance)?
My wife has a paperwhite, I'd say the text is as sharp as the paperwhite. The contrast of the Paperwhite seems slightly better when the frontlight is turned off (but only slightly), the screen of the T68 is a bit more yellow than the Paperwhite when the frontlight is off. With the frontlight on full strenght there is not much difference in contrast, only the color again is a bit more yellow, but I don't mind that very much.

Because of the e-ink screen there are some weird things happening. For example when you go to the library and tap on the i symbol, you do see the cover of the book but you do not see any of the text. I think that is because the normal background of that screen is all black with white letters. Strangely enough the Book Info screen on the T68 is completely white apart from the cover and the download/remove button. A bit annoying but no major problem. When you have 'the words of Jesus in red', the red text is slightly less sharp (becomes light grey), I've turned the red letters off in the app because of it.

2. How long does it take to do a Bible Word Study?
Starting a Bible Word Study takes 2 or 3 seconds (when connected to Wifi). A note on the Word study pie chart, you can distinguish between the main uses (dark and light grey), but not between the grey tones of the others, but that was to be expected.

3. With a book that is downloaded, is there a lag between page turns once it is downloaded or only initially? i.e., can you read at a normal pace without noticeable lag?
There is an initial lag for the first page, but after that it is mostly fine, every now and then you have to wait a little (but no longer than a second, hardly longer than physically turning a page of a book). As I see it now it shouldn't be problematic.

4. How do complex resources such as BAGD function (If you have a copy)
BDAG works all right, again there is a slight lag between some pages, but again no more than a second. One disadvantage of the e-ink screen is that you can't distinguish the blue hyperlinked text, but then when you know the resource you can guess what the hyperlinks are and if in doubt you just tap on it and find out quick enough.

5. If you could post a video somewhere there are lot of people that would love you!
I've never done that before for something like this and don't have time this week unfortunately. I might try it next week.

6. When using a greek text (say Robinson's Byzantine 2005) How long does it take to look up parsing information?
I've tried with UBS4, it takes 2 or 3 seconds, no longer than on my Nexus7.

Just as an aside, the touch screen is responsive enough but not as responsive as a tablet (e.g. Nexus 7). You do have to tap twice or thrice every now and then. One example is when you are in a resource and want to get back to the menu, tapping the upper left corner, the plastic edge of the screen gets in the way a little and you often have to tap more than once.
 
The software is still a bit rough, but from what I've seen so far I am not sorry I ordered it. It will be great to be able to read my Logos resources on the e-ink screen. It definitely seems the best option there is today for that.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 17 2014 11:42 AM

Thank you so much, Daniel!

That's very appreciated - I'm still on the fence shelling out about $250 (would buy BDAG twice or so), but your review helps me a lot! 

Running Logos 8 latest beta version on Win 10

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