Bug(?) Some issues with ReadAloud

Hi,

I noticed that when Logos 5 starts ReadAloud, it disable the Pause/Play Control from both the Keyboard as well as Ear Phone Control.

PS: I noticed that Volume Control (up and down) works from keyboard or Ear Phone Control ... only Pause/Play not working.

Tommy Ball said:

LimJK said:

Narrator continues reading after the End of Page and I would expect Logos to turn the page so that I can follow the reading. Logos does not turn to the Next Page, in the case of a long paragraph that crosses to next page. The page will only turn when it comes to a point where the “Golden Star” flashes (eg. the beginning of a new Paragraph, header, bullet points, citation, etc). 

You use the word "page" a lot in your post. This resource doesn't have "pages" per se, but I was able to replicate the behavior you describe her when in reading view mode. I'll write up a case for this. 

Tommy,

Sorry, I was not clear with the term "Page". I did not mean Page as per "Page" tagged by logos in the most resources; I used the word "Page" in the ordinary sense of the word when I come to the end of the text I can view on the screen.

The issue exist not only in "reading view" which you can replicate (Thank you), it also happened on an ordinary "panel" displaying the resource as follows:

Tommy Ball said:

LimJK said:

When reading a Title in the resource, it is always broken into 2 parts. the First word of the Title, followed by an unnatural "Pause" and a Golden Star, followed by the reading the rest of the Title.

I wasn't able to replicate this. I listened to the title "God Appears to Abraham at Mamre" in this resource and it read as I would expect it to. It read the title, then a pause and the citation, and finally one more Pause and the word "Overview." This is all as I would expect.

Tommy,

I guess the reason you cannot replicate the issue, is probably because you accidentally picked the only 2 scenarios that I know it works properly [:)]

• May be your title appears as the first line of text on the Page (Oops ... I mean, First line of text in the Panel displaying the resource on the screen). Logos would read the whole title in one breath ... showing one golden star, as we all expected. or
• Your Title has only one word, like in your case "Overview"

Let me walk you through step by step [:)] hopefully you can replicate the issue.

• Let us use the Resource - Lexham Bible Guide: Genesis 11-50
• Some how navigate the resource so that the title such as "Place within the Canon" is not on the first line of text (see screen shot)
• See the first star on the first screen shot, that is when narrator reads "Place"
• The second screen shot shows the Second star and that is when narrator reads "within the Canon"
• Repeat the above exercise on longer titles ... look for those titles where the first 2 words has to be read together ... to see more obvious effect.

PS:

• I noticed that in Logos 5.2a SR1 ... the pause in-between reading the title seems more acceptable (?)
• It is quite challenging for me to replicate, because Logos always start reading from the top of the page - just to rub it in [:)]

Tommy Ball said:

LimJK said:

When reading unnumbered bullet points, it always read “comma” as a prefix before reading the bullet point. (This is not an issue with Logos for Windows - only issue with Logos for Mac)

I was unable to replicate this in the section covering Genesis 19:1-38

Tommy,

Not sure why you cannot replicate. However, I observed that the first 2 screen pages do not have any unnumbered bullet points.  Let me try to walk you through step by step. 

• Let us use the same resource Lexham Bible Guide: Genesis 12-50 as in earlier posts
• Navigate to the screen shot as shown
• At all the annotated area the narrator reads "comma" before reading the bullet point.

PS:

• I recalled in the pervious release of Logos 5.2a and earlier ... "comma" was read for every bullet point (I am not 100% sure now), now it happens on 2nd and subsequent alternate points.
• My System voice is Tom
• Resource Support Information

Tommy Ball said:

You may want to throw up a "User Voice" for this one, but I'll send a "suggestion case" for it too. I spoke with development today and brought this issue up. It sounds like aside from the complications for implementing this, the other support issues this could potentially cause are not unsubstantial depending on the user's settings and general setup. I personally could see hitting the space bar and allowing the voice to pause as helpful, as that is what most audio/video players use as their pause mechanism, but I don't know how difficult that would be to implement. 

Tommy,

While I understand they may be challenges that I do not understand, at least an alternative way to provide a pause/replay sounds like a good workaround.

I was hoping that raising the fact that there is no known credible "Bible Readers" around that I have come across so far that does not provide such a simple (from user's perspective) pause/replay function ... to help justify to the Logos Business owner to consider doing this [:)]